Apple TV+ versus Disney+ compared -- the streaming wars escalate

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The next phase of the streaming wars is upon us. On November 12, Disney+ launched with an overwhelming catalog of content. Here's how it stacks up to Apple TV+.

Disney Plus


Apple TV+ went live on November 1. Disney+ combines some original programming with a massive back catalog from Disney's sizable trove of intellectual property.

Disney and Apple: Friends and foes

Steve Jobs and Robert Iger
Steve Jobs and Robert Iger


Disney and Apple, as companies, have a long and intertwined history. Steve Jobs co-founded Pixar Animation Studios, which was later sold to the Walt Disney Company, and Jobs both served on the board of Disney and was the company's largest shareholder at the time of his death in 2011.

Following Jobs' passing, Disney CEO Robert Iger joined Apple's board, on which he served until resigning earlier this year, ahead of the streaming competition. Iger also shared several revelations about Jobs and Apple in his recent memoir, including that he believes the companies may have merged had Jobs lived, and that Jobs told Iger on the day in 2006 that the Disney/Pixar merger closed that his cancer had returned.

But now Apple and Disney find themselves rivals, with services launching the same month with rival slates of original shows.

How can Apple users watch Disney+?


Captain Marvel on iOS


Apple and Disney may be competing directly, but that doesn't mean Disney+ won't be easily made available to Apple users. The Disney+ app will be available on Apple TV at launch, as well as on iOS devices.

What does Disney+ cost?

Disney+, at launch, costs $6.99 a month -- slightly more than Apple TV+ -- or $69.99 a year. It's also available in a $12.99 per month bundle with Hulu and ESPN+.

The Disney+ Originals


Disney's The Mandalorian (photo courtesy Disney Plus)


Disney has made seven original series that are launching this month available to the media, although the highest-profile new show on the service, the Star Wars saga The Mandalorian, was not shown to the media.

What stands out most of all about the new Disney shows is that most of them have something to do with some prominent pieces of existing Disney intellectual property.

Forky Asks a Question, produced by Pixar, is a series of shorts featuring Forky, the animated fork character from this year's movie Toy Story 4. High School Musical: The Musical: The Series is based on a popular series of musical movies from The Disney Channel (between 2006 and 2008), while Encore! is a reality show version of same, starring one of the voice actresses from Frozen and featuring at least one musical that was adapted from a Disney movie.

Lady and the Tramp, of course, is a remake of the Disney animated movie from 1955, while Marvel's Hero Project is an inspirational reality series built around Disney-owned Marvel Comics. The Imagineering Story is a documentary series about the history of Disney itself.

The World According to Jeff Goldblum was produced under the auspices of National Geographic, in which Disney owns a controlling interest. Goldblum, ironically, appeared in prominent Apple commercials, for the iMac, in the 1990s.

For all of the hand-wringing about Apple's supposed content restrictions on its Apple TV+ shows, the Disney+ launch slate is even more family-friendly, which is not a surprise considering Disney's brand. Iger has said that Disney+ will not offer any R-rated content, with such content instead hosted on Hulu, in which Disney also has a controlling stake.

Reviewing the originals

Kristen Bell, producer and host of Disney+'s Encore!
Kristen Bell, producer and host of Disney+'s Encore!


If any of the new Disney+ shows is a strong bet to break out at launch, it's The Mandalorian, the first-ever live-action TV series set in the Star Wars universe, and also the only one of the new shows with a prominent behind-the-scenes creator, Jon Favreau, who directed Iron Man and the Disney remakes of The Jungle Book and The Lion King. But that series, once again, has not been made available in advance, so we can't speak to its quality. The Mandalorian arrives on launch day, November 12.

The other shows have a chance to appeal to some niche audience segments, but aren't as likely to break through in any significant way.


Disney's 2019 Lady and the Tramp


Lady and the Tramp, a feature-length movie, is another live-action remake of a classic Disney film, in the tradition of the theatrical remakes of Dumbo, Aladdin, and The Lion King that Disney released earlier this year. That also debuts on November 12.

Directed by Charlie Bean, it's a very handsome production in terms of the sets and shots, and its story- being essentially the same one as the original- is quite timeless. But the film suffers some of the same pitfalls of the other recent remakes, which is that this story did not need to be told again, in this way. That, and it's running time is about a half-hour longer than that of the original.

Tessa Thompson and Justin Theroux voice the two title characters, and while the animals talking doesn't look quite as unnatural as it did in the Lion King remake, it doesn't look quite right, either.

When the three theatrical remakes were released this year, I wondered why, when they're eventually sitting side-by-side on Disney+ with the originals, anyone would choose to watch the newer one instead of the older one. Lady and the Tramp is an improvement on the truly wretched 2019 versions of Dumbo and Lion King, but I'm still not sure why the average Disney+ consumer will choose to watch the new version when the original is sitting right there.

Encore!, my favorite of the shows, has a delicious concept: It's a reality show in which, in each episode, the cast of a high school musical from the 1990s reunites in the present day, as adults, to re-enact their performance, with the help of a professional Broadway director.

Hosted by The Good Place actress and executive producer Kristen Bell, who introduces each episode and shows up to meet the performers at the end, this show is going to appeal strongly to anyone who's ever been a theater kid. The first two episodes feature Annie, which over the years has been only tangentially associated with Disney, and Beauty and the Beast, which long has been.

Enjoyable as the show is, Encore! could have run on any broadcast network, probably, at any time in the last 30 years. If the show were debuting this fall on NBC, it wouldn't look the slightest bit out of place. Encore! debuts November 15.

The Imagineering story
The Imagineering story


The Imagineering Story is a bit of naked self-mythologizing on Disney's part, something to which the company is no stranger. But it's still very fascinating, and likely to appeal to the sizable niche of people who love Disney iconography and the history behind it.

Narrated by actress Angela Bassett, this documentary series looks at important moments in Disney history and how the "Imagineers," Disney's name for its research-and-development division, helped make them possible. The first episode is about the establishment of Disneyland, so we get the origin stories of "It's a Small World After All," Tomorrowland, and other touchstones of that park. It later gets into the early plans for Walt Disney World, although Disney himself died before its completion.

While the Disneyland episode is willing to acknowledge that Disneyland got negative reviews and suffered other trouble upon first opening, the show looks at times like an internal corporate video. The second episode, meanwhile, is about how Disney moved forward following its founder's death. Those who are highly into Disney history will likely find the show very enjoyable. The Imagineering Story debuts November 15.


Forky Asks a Question, from Disney+


Forky Asks a Question, of which we've seen two episodes -- each about three minutes long -- is an educational series that seems aimed at very small children.

The Forky of Toy Story 4 was a conceptually fascinating character who spoke to existential questions about the sentience of toys and the basis of The Toy Story series itself. There's little of that here, although fans of actor John Ratzenberger will enjoy his vocal performance as Hamm the pig. That debuts November 15.

High School Musical: The Musical: The Series is a mockumentary, also set in a theater-kid milieu and ironically, the first thing we see on it is an iPhone, as a teacher (Kate Reinders) watches a number from the original High School Musical on her phone.

The conceit is that the kids are performing a stage version of High School Musical, but the cameras capture all the behind-the-scenes drama as well. The actors are appealing, especially leads Joshua Bassett and Olivia Rodrigo, and the musical numbers first-rate, but the show is something of a retread, and one that comes across as a clear nostalgia play for those who were fans of the movies a decade ago.

The series also owes a great deal to the old TV series Glee, from the too-overzealous teacher to the triumphant audition scene in the first episode to the similar incidental music. High School Musical: The Musical: The Series debuts November 15.


Jeff Goldblum, in Disney+'s "The World According to Jeff Goldblum," photo courtesy of George Lange/National Geographic


The World According to Jeff Goldblum is a documentary series that's exactly what it sounds like: In each 30-minute episode, the actor travels around, interviews experts, and learns about a different subject: Sneakers in one episode, ice cream in another, and tattoos in a third.

The series, in the tradition of shows like Adam Ruins Everything, combines content that's thought-provoking with the presence and charisma of a respected performer, even if Goldblum's one-of-a-kind vocal cadences aren't quite a natural fit for this sort of material. This is another one in which it could very easily have been broadcast on some basic cable network, this year or ten years ago, and not looked at all out of place. The Goldblum show arrives on November 29.

You can't say Marvel's Hero Project doesn't have its heart in the right place. It's a series of 30-minute episodes about kids with amazing stories, usually involving some type of hardship or adversity. In each episode, the Marvel Comics team works to create a comic book out of the kid's story.

It's sweet, inspirational stuff, familiar to anyone who's watched a pre-competition highlights package on the Olympics, or even American Ninja Warrior. The first episode is about Jordan, a girl born without a left hand, who designed herself a glitter-shooting artificial arm- and at the end, she's surprised with her own comic book. Yes, it's admirable, even if it does feel at times like an infomercial for Marvel Comics. Marvel's Hero Project makes its debut November 22.

A difference in emphasis

It's clear that, when it comes to original shows, Apple and Disney are doing different things.

The Apple shows available at launch and shortly thereafter, while they vary in quality, all have some degree of high ambition. In most cases, they have bigger stars, and bigger creators behind them, with bigger budgets, and they are generally aiming higher.

None of Apple's shows are about Apple, and of the launch shows, only The Morning Show even has Apple products in it. Apple did not launch Apple TV+ with a documentary about Steve Jobs, a multi-part series about the engineering of the iPod, or anything else of that nature.

Of course, Disney+ offers something Apple does not, for that extra couple of dollars a month: That massive back catalog. Disney can offer its subscribers access to thousands of titles encompassing nearly a century of cinema history. This includes much of the output of two classic Hollywood movie studios (Disney and Fox) and eventually the entirety, or something close to it, of the Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar, and Disney Animation canons. Some of the Marvel and Star Wars movies remain on Netflix for another year or two, but will make their way to Disney+ in time.

Its ownership of Fox, meanwhile, gives Disney access to the entire 20-year run of The Simpsons, and other shows produced by Fox's television studio.

The company even spent a day last month tweeting out some of the weirder, more obscure catalog titles that will be available at launch on Disney+, such as The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes, Sammy The Way Out Seal and The Million Dollar Duck.

The Shaggy D.A. (1976) pic.twitter.com/uFsqRA0gjZ

-- Disney+ (@disneyplus)


Disney has been building towards this with its last 10 to 15 years of strategy, including the acquisitions of Marvel, Lucasfilm and 21st Century Fox. The company has assembled a massive war chest of content, while also using that intellectual property to develop new shows, as they've already announced several Marvel-based projects that will debut on Disney+. Therefore, Disney is in more of a position to directly challenge Netflix, and is even striking that service in one of its particularly vulnerable points, its lack of older titles.

Apple, which does not own a movie studio with decades of legacy content- let alone two of them- cannot offer that. How Apple addresses that disparity, whether by licensing deals or an acquisition binge, is something worth watching as the new streaming wars develop.

Apple has not outwardly declared, as Disney has, that will avoid R-rated content.

The interface

Disney Plus' interface (photo courtesy of Disney)
Disney Plus' interface (photo courtesy of Disney)


Disney introduced the look and feel of its Disney+ interface its D23 conference back in August, and the consensus from those in attendance was that it's cleaner than that of Netflix, but that the lack of clutter is more a matter of it offering less content at launch than its more established rivals.

Also, rather than the sort of "Movies From the 1990s With a Strong Female Lead" subcategories for which Netflix is famous, the Disney+ categorization scheme is much simpler: It's divided into sections for Star Wars, Disney, Pixar, Marvel, and National Geographic, as well as originals.

Apple TV+'s interface is even cleaner, in part because it offers much less content.

What it all means

The streaming wars aren't necessarily about one particular service "beating out" all the others and emerging as the final victor. Signing up for Apple's service doesn't mean eschewing Disney's, or subscribing at the expense of Netflix or one of the other incumbent services.

Both companies are also doing things to make things easier for early adopters. Apple TV+ is free for a year for new Apple device purchasers, while Verizon is giving a free first year of Disney+ to new and existing subscribers to wireless unlimited plans, and to new Verizon Fios Home Internet or 5G Home Internet customers.

The assumption is a future in which most consumers subscribe to several of the services, possibly instead of a cable subscription. The key for each service will be coming up with enough to offer consumers to make themselves an indispensable part of that streaming equation.

It is, of course, very early on, and the current offerings of both Apple TV+ and Disney+ are both very far from where they'll be a year from now.
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  • Reply 1 of 78
    Looks like the title "High School Musical: The Musical: The Series" was suggested by the Department of Redundancy Department.
    JesusHSmithbeowulfschmidtholmstockdrazorpitdewmen2itivguylostkiwigilly33edredAppleExposed
  • Reply 2 of 78
    I have an idea. Why don't we put all of these paid channels together on one bill? We could give it a name like...cable.
    edited November 2019 bala1234williamlondoncy_starkmanuraharagilly33superklotonlkruppCarnagegatorguybigtds
  • Reply 3 of 78
    imatimat Posts: 208member
    Big difference: AppleTV + is available where I live, as well as Netflix, whereas Disney + isn't. So that settles it, for the time being.
    edred15ngcs1lolliverwatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 78
    i see no irony that jeff goldblum used to do apple commercials and is now doing a show with national geographic of which disney is a controlling interest.


    watto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 78
    uraharaurahara Posts: 733member
    Zirlin said:
    I have an idea. Why don't we put all of these paid channels together on one bill? We could give it a name like...cable.
    Yep, there are so many, that I don't want to subscribe to any of them. Because I will be missing the content what others offer. Not one provider offers a coverage what I want to see.
    superklotonphilboogie
  • Reply 6 of 78
    Now that I’ve read this article not sure I’m interested as much to jump in at launch anymore. The appeal for me is the backlog of movies from Fox and Disney. But for an ‘extra couple of dollars’ more? Hmmm. Apple hit the sweet spot with 1 year free with the purchase of a new device and I like $4.99 so unless the content absolutely sucks I’m in. Just not feeling the pull on this one.
    AppleExposedwatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 78
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,239member
    Zirlin said:
    I have an idea. Why don't we put all of these paid channels together on one bill? We could give it a name like...cable.
    An analogy occurs to me involving the mainframe and ibm. The mainframe model of computing (big powerful computer shared by many users over a network) is a good model for efficient utilization of resources. The problem was IBM became a price gouging monopolist. The inefficiency of monopoly eventually eclipsed the efficiency of the mainframe model, leading to the decentralization/fragmentation of computing resources. But the efficiency of the mainframe model couldn’t be ignored — it’s back and now we call it “cloud computing”

    similarly, the bundling model for content delivery is very efficient. But the cable companies became price gouging monopolists. The inefficiency of monopoly eclipsed the efficiency of the bundling model. I’m sure it won’t be long before we get back to a bundling model — it just wont be the cable company / ISP doing the bundling. 
    dewmewatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 78
    One single service for all content is still my dream; unfortunately I don't see that happening. But I won't subscribe to a host of services so I hope they will eventually go down to two or three the most. I think I could live with that.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 78
    Apple is certainly providing R-rated content — I can’t even count the number of times Steve Carell, Jennifer Aniston, and even Reese Witherspoon curse in The Morning Show‘s first 3 episodes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
    watto_cobraralphabet
  • Reply 10 of 78
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    The Apple TV app on iPhone is terrible.
    williamlondon
  • Reply 11 of 78
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    In my opinion, right now, there is no comparison between TV+ and Disney+. Disney+ hits the ground with a huge catalog of blockbusters plus originals. TV+ starts out with a handful of originals, period. I subscribed  to TV+ and am in the seven day free period. After I watch everything I’m interested in I have to sit back and wait until something new comes out. I may wind up canceling before billing starts and do that waiting without the billing to see if the interest continues. Just IMHO.
    razorpitElCapitan
  • Reply 12 of 78
    CarmboCarmbo Posts: 26unconfirmed, member

    Disney+ will do quite well, I’m sure, but it’s not going to appeal to everybody in that it’s basically a lot of legacy content and even more doses of Star Wars, Marvel and Co. There are only so many hours in a day any of us can set aside for consuming media on our home screens. As such, immense amounts of content in of itself is virtually useless unless there’s something of real value in the mix. Too much of X or a whole lot of Y doesn’t get it done if neither X or Y adds any real value to your viewing experience. Netflix has a lot more going on, as does Amazon Prime, in terms of serving up interesting fresh content and presumably Apple will be bringing into the mix plenty of original programming, some of which will no doubt, prove appealing. 

    Households with children who eat up the Disney catalogue will certainly enthusiastically embrace the new service, provided Disney doesn’t get greedy after the launch phase wraps up. Yet there are a lot of households that I can imagine would regard Disney+ as heavy on volume but short on value. Netflix/Amazon Prime and now Apple TV+ are really different services, pinning their hopes on original content more than legacy titles. Those three streaming services combined are ample in meeting my streaming needs and additional services are going to have a hard time convincing me to add them, too.
    watto_cobraflyingdp
  • Reply 13 of 78
    ThrashmanThrashman Posts: 22unconfirmed, member
    Hard to compare Oprah to iron man 
    or #metoo to Star Wars.
    bigtdsphilboogierazorpitAppleExposed
  • Reply 14 of 78
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,153member
    Carmbo said:

    Disney+ will do quite well, I’m sure, but it’s not going to appeal to everybody in that it’s basically a lot of legacy content and even more doses of Star Wars, Marvel and Co. There are only so many hours in a day any of us can set aside for consuming media on our home screens. As such, immense amounts of content in of itself is virtually useless unless there’s something of real value in the mix. Too much of X or a whole lot of Y doesn’t get it done if neither X or Y adds any real value to your viewing experience. Netflix has a lot more going on, as does Amazon Prime, in terms of serving up interesting fresh content and presumably Apple will be bringing into the mix plenty of original programming, some of which will no doubt, prove appealing. 

    Households with children who eat up the Disney catalogue will certainly enthusiastically embrace the new service, provided Disney doesn’t get greedy after the launch phase wraps up. Yet there are a lot of households that I can imagine would regard Disney+ as heavy on volume but short on value. Netflix/Amazon Prime and now Apple TV+ are really different services, pinning their hopes on original content more than legacy titles. Those three streaming services combined are ample in meeting my streaming needs and additional services are going to have a hard time convincing me to add them, too.
    "Disney says that in addition to its library contentDisney+ will offer 10 original films and 25 original series, including three “Avengers” spinoffs, in its first year of operation"
    So just as much original content as Apple TV+, especially on the movie side, and both are planning more but yes far short of what Amazon and Netflix offer. 
    edited November 2019 muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 15 of 78
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,712member
    lkrupp said:
    In my opinion, right now, there is no comparison between TV+ and Disney+. Disney+ hits the ground with a huge catalog of blockbusters plus originals. TV+ starts out with a handful of originals, period. I subscribed  to TV+ and am in the seven day free period. After I watch everything I’m interested in I have to sit back and wait until something new comes out. I may wind up canceling before billing starts and do that waiting without the billing to see if the interest continues. Just IMHO.
     I do that for HBO, pay for a month once all the episodes are available of a particular show e.g. GOT and WestWorld (the only two shows on HBO I want to see) binge and cancel.  Not sure it will be possible with Apple TV +.

    That said the low cost of Apple TV + having it along with Disney isn't too onerous.  Plus it is free for most people and maybe that offer will go on (would make sense IMHO for Apple to keep this for ever if it helps sell hardware) ...   I mean who doesn't buy at least one new Apple product every year? :) 
    edited November 2019 lolliverwatto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 78
    CarmboCarmbo Posts: 26unconfirmed, member
    Star Wars and Marvel spinoffs is not really my idea of appealing original content. I’m a bit weary of all the franchise titles developed for cinema distribution on that front so even more related content just feels like overkill. Not everyone feels that way, certainly, but I can’t be the only consumer suffering from Star Wars/Marvel fatigue. 
    Hyperealityflyingdp
  • Reply 17 of 78
    peterhart said:
    Apple is certainly providing R-rated content — I can’t even count the number of times Steve Carell, Jennifer Aniston, and even Reese Witherspoon curse in The Morning Show‘s first 3 episodes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
    Dickinson has some surprising scenes also.  Was slightly uncomfortable watching with my 16 yo daughter.
  • Reply 18 of 78
    kmareikmarei Posts: 178member
    The streaming wars aren't necessarily about one particular service "beating out" all the others and emerging as the final victor. Signing up for Apple's service doesn't mean eschewing Disney's, or subscribing at the expense of Netflix or one of the other incumbent services. ”

    The streaming wars are EXACTLY about that
    It  means the more bundles I sign up for, the more the less interesting ones will lose out.
    And those will be the ones I cancel 
    Unless we are talking about rich people, who will probably sign up for all of the packages anyway

    I’m currently paying
    $15 Spotify family plan
    $13 Netflix 
    $7 Disney + (mainly for mandalorian)
    $10 WWE
    This is over and above the $240 I pay for Fios internet and TV
    and no streaming service will ever make me cancel my main cable bill
    because none of then are as seamless as me flipping channels on the fios box
    i want movies, I switch to channel 840-930 for hbo, Cinemax, and stars
    i want to watch the Washington capitals hockey game, I switch to channel 576
    i want news I switch to 600 CNN

    everytime I’ve tried those streaming services, I’ve run into some sort of issue
    and needing to login, or the app needing an update etc
    fios box updates on its own at night.
    with fios, it’s s simple matter of entering the channel number and job complete

    the killer app is now something that has a pretty front end (something like popcorn time)
    that pulls content from all the streaming packages you subscribe to, and shows it all on one interface
    without me needing to remember which package has what show
    i just click mandalorian, and it starts streaming
    exactly like popcorn time, but legally :)

  • Reply 19 of 78
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,153member
    kmarei said:
    the killer app is now something that has a pretty front end (something like popcorn time)
    that pulls content from all the streaming packages you subscribe to, and shows it all on one interface
    without me needing to remember which package has what show
    i just click mandalorian, and it starts streaming
    exactly like popcorn time, but legally :)


    Roku...
  • Reply 20 of 78
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,712member
    A new Verge article seems to agree with my premise that Apple TV+ maybe included with product purchases ongoing (not just temporarily)  and be similar to Amazon Prime in the sence that it is bundled with another service or in Apple's case another hardware product purchase.  That, IMHO is definitely the way to go for Apple.
    edited November 2019 mark fearinghodarAppleExposedwatto_cobraflyingdprezwits
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