Ha ha Apple. You reap what you sow. Maybe you'll learn your lesson, but I doubt it.
So you're saying the company shouldn't hire the people it thinks are best for the job? That technical skills, which can be objectively measured*, should be discounted in favour of suspicion due to someone's place of residence and/or cultural upbringing?
There are always cultural differences to deal with. Imagine moving to a country where the left hand is considered to be for, uh, personal sanitary activities only - if you're staying for one or two years, would your behaviour change? Would it become a subconscious change? Would it become a permanent change? What about a country where it's illegal to spit out chewing gum in a public place? Or illegal to consume alcohol? Or illegal to, as a woman, dress as you please?
* Not necessarily an accurate representation of someone's ability, but the measurement can be made in a standardised manner that minimises subjectivity.
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. It is not simply a minor cultural difference, China is out to overtake and destroy us, our economy, our military and our way of life by any means, including lying, cheating and stealing. Brushing this off as a "cultural" difference is ridiculous. All chinese nationals are working for china and the chinese gov't, any advantage American companies may receive by hiring these people is coincidental to their main goal of benefiting china. How many times does this have to happen before it raises an alarm? I rarely hear of Indians stealing technology and going back to India with it. Only chinese.
Your argument is like saying if a nazi is really good at what they do, we should be able to hire them and just accept the fact that it is their culture to want to kill Jews. Sometimes you just have to stand up for what is right and not worry about being sensitive and politically correct.
Your argument is like saying if a nazi is really good at what they do, we should be able to hire them and just accept the fact that it is their culture to want to kill Jews. Sometimes you just have to stand up for what is right and not worry about being sensitive and politically correct.
I suppose the Federal government could solve this problem by making it illegal for any Chinese national to work in any tech industry in the US due to the security risk. That way the burden of discrimination claims would be lifted from businesses like Apple who are currently legally prohibited from taking such sensible precautionary measures.
And there could be even a harsher line drawn by the Federal government here. Stealing tech secrets vital to American economic interests could potentially merit a death sentence penalty.
Also... what ‘Apple Car’? Never heard of it. (wink, wink)
NOT being a Chinese national doesn't mean you aren't selling secrets to them.
Gowadia, Mallory, Claiborne, and Underwood (to name a few) don't appear to be Chinese names, yet they all spied for China.
Ha ha Apple. You reap what you sow. Maybe you'll learn your lesson, but I doubt it.
So you're saying the company shouldn't hire the people it thinks are best for the job? That technical skills, which can be objectively measured*, should be discounted in favour of suspicion due to someone's place of residence and/or cultural upbringing?
There are always cultural differences to deal with. Imagine moving to a country where the left hand is considered to be for, uh, personal sanitary activities only - if you're staying for one or two years, would your behaviour change? Would it become a subconscious change? Would it become a permanent change? What about a country where it's illegal to spit out chewing gum in a public place? Or illegal to consume alcohol? Or illegal to, as a woman, dress as you please?
* Not necessarily an accurate representation of someone's ability, but the measurement can be made in a standardised manner that minimises subjectivity.
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. It is not simply a minor cultural difference, China is out to overtake and destroy us, our economy, our military and our way of life by any means, including lying, cheating and stealing. Brushing this off as a "cultural" difference is ridiculous. All chinese nationals are working for china and the chinese gov't, any advantage American companies may receive by hiring these people is coincidental to their main goal of benefiting china. How many times does this have to happen before it raises an alarm? I rarely hear of Indians stealing technology and going back to India with it. Only chinese.
Your argument is like saying if a nazi is really good at what they do, we should be able to hire them and just accept the fact that it is their culture to want to kill Jews. Sometimes you just have to stand up for what is right and not worry about being sensitive and politically correct.
That is a sweeping generalisation which doesn't make a lot of of sense. You will find lying, cheating people who steal, all over the place. That includes China, Russia, UK, and of course the U.S (and India for that matter).
Industrial espionage is not something that is geo fenced.
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Your argument is like saying if a nazi is really good at what they do, we should be able to hire them and just accept the fact that it is their culture to want to kill Jews. Sometimes you just have to stand up for what is right and not worry about being sensitive and politically correct.
Gowadia, Mallory, Claiborne, and Underwood (to name a few) don't appear to be Chinese names, yet they all spied for China.
Industrial espionage is not something that is geo fenced.