Saudi royalty implicated in Amazon Bezos' phone-hacking scandal

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  • Reply 21 of 30
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,179member
    sflocal said:
    dysamoria said:
    Bezos didn’t ruin it.  We the people did.  When YOU buy from Amazon, YOU are taking business away from a local business and giving it TO BEZOS.

    stop blaming others and take responsibility.  It gets really old.

    if everyone stopped shopping at Amazon, it would be out of business.  Well?
    It's far more complex a problem than that.  Amazon has advantages that your local shops simply don't have.  When the median income in the US is $47k, people are forced to look for the cheapest products to make ends meet.  And guess who's cheapest in most cases?
    bullshit.  Bezos started out an average Joe like everyone else.  He took risks.  Heck, you could have hated him even back then, but been smart and take your own risk and buy $1,000 of Amazon stock in the 90's and you too would be riding high and mighty right now.  But no... it's "someone else's fault".  You want to blame online sellers like Amazon for having certain advantages?  Blame brick-and-mortar places like Walmart too, unless that is just too early-2000's for you?  Clueless people lacking any sort of personal responsibility will then resort to accusing me of "defending billionaires" because I don't agree with them.

    People are not "forced" to look for cheaper products.  They want cheap.  That $5 wrench at the local hardware store would still be $5 if Amazon weren't around.  It's Amazon (formerly Walmart, formally <insert another company to blame>) that allows people to sell their $1.50 cheapshit Chinese-made wrench to an audience around the world.

    Companies like Amazon saw a need that wasn't being addressed.  If anything, I'm glad Amazon is an American company, employing countless workers, and keeping an entire ancillary economy going.

    I'm trying to survive in an every-expensive society.  I don't go around blaming some distant rich guy for my situation.  Bezos adapted to his surroundings, I'm doing the same.  The blaming game gets super old.  What happens when there's no one else to blame and you still aren't where you want to be?  Maybe the finger should be pointed at the one in the mirror?


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  • Reply 22 of 30
    entropysentropys Posts: 4,473member
    The story of the Little Red Hen should be compulsory study at grade 5, grade 7 and the first year of tertiary education. The college kids then get to compare with the Ronald Reagan version of the story.

    anyway, in regard to this story, forget the successful phishing attack, wtf is the UNHRC doing diverting it’s resources to a Bezos problem?
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  • Reply 23 of 30
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,794member
    sflocal said:
    sflocal said:
    dysamoria said:
    Bezos didn’t ruin it.  We the people did.  When YOU buy from Amazon, YOU are taking business away from a local business and giving it TO BEZOS.

    stop blaming others and take responsibility.  It gets really old.

    if everyone stopped shopping at Amazon, it would be out of business.  Well?
    It's far more complex a problem than that.  Amazon has advantages that your local shops simply don't have.  When the median income in the US is $47k, people are forced to look for the cheapest products to make ends meet.  And guess who's cheapest in most cases?
    bullshit.  Bezos started out an average Joe like everyone else . . . <more rambling on a topic my post wasn't even about>

    People are not "forced" to look for cheaper products.  They want cheap.  That $5 wrench at the local hardware store would still be $5 if Amazon weren't around.  It's Amazon (formerly Walmart, formally <insert another company to blame>) that allows people to sell their $1.50 cheapshit Chinese-made wrench to an audience around the world.
    Whoa, you're going in every direction at once here.  I was only talking about the reason why telling people to "look in the mirror and boycott Amazon" won't work.  Just as boycotting Walmart didn't before.

    Big companies like Amazon, Walmart, and Costco have the ability to strike deals with manufacturers that your local (smaller) store can't.  Or use loss leader strategies to choke out local competition.

    Your assumption that most people could choose to shop local and pay more for products is simply false.  If your username reflects where you live, then you're living in a city where the median income is much higher than the average (just as I am) and so your view is tainted by a reality where people are able to choose to shop local as a way to protest.  But I grew up in a struggling blue collar family in a much smaller city and so I understand and appreciate that reality too.
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  • Reply 24 of 30
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    jd_in_sb said:
    gatorguy said:
    jd_in_sb said:
    Time to buy an iPhone Jeffusiness-person
    Reportedly it WAS an iPhone that was hacked. An iPhone X to be specific.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/bezos-phone-hacking-un-calls-for-immediate-investigation.html
    I didn’t know iPhones could be hacked via malformed videos. I thought it was more secure 
    It obviously is not. Still the iPhone uses a very secure OS, not something you should be concerned about unless you're a very high-profile business person, routinely handle highly sensitive data and communications, or for some other reason a state-sponsored player or investigative agency would have more than a passing interest in you. Average Joe's are safe, and that's a category all of us here belong in AFAICT.  
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  • Reply 25 of 30
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    gatorguy said:
    jd_in_sb said:
    gatorguy said:
    jd_in_sb said:
    Time to buy an iPhone Jeffusiness-person
    Reportedly it WAS an iPhone that was hacked. An iPhone X to be specific.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/bezos-phone-hacking-un-calls-for-immediate-investigation.html
    I didn’t know iPhones could be hacked via malformed videos. I thought it was more secure 
    It obviously is not. Still the iPhone uses a very secure OS, not something you should be concerned about unless you're a very high-profile business person, routinely handle highly sensitive data and communications, or for some other reason a state-sponsored player or investigative agency would have more than a passing interest in you. Average Joe's are safe, and that's a category all of us here belong in AFAICT.  
    1) I wonder his iPhone was hacked or if this malicious video was only able to gain access to WhatsApp which allowed them to get access to WhatsApp on his device or his account as a whole. It seems like everyday we find out a company is storing password credentials in plaintext.

    2) I wouldn't say that makes us safe, I'd say that not being the richest person in the world helps not make us targets.
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  • Reply 26 of 30
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,487member
    sflocal said:
    dysamoria said:
    razorpit said:
    Soli said:
    The 2018 hacking of Amazon Jeff Bezos' smartphone led to the leaking of compromising information to a newspaper, a private investigation into the affair claims, with the hack allegedly involving a malformed video sent from the WhatsApp account of Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman.

     […]

    The timing of the Bezos data trove coincided with the start of a divorce between Jeff and McKenzie Bezos, with the National Enquirer providing details of Jeff's affair with Sanchez one day after its announcement. Three months later, MacKenzie Bezos received an estimated $36 billion, but handed over holdings and voting rights in Amazon and rocket company Blue Origin to her estranged husband.
    1) Damn! From from the prince's account.

    2) For MacKenzie this is a good thing. Her then husband is scum and she's better off without him. I wish she had gotten half since they were together long before Amazon (nee Cadabra) and they had no pre-nup, but I don't think I'd turn down $36 billion to cut ties. I had read that he was trying to create a post-nup. To use a recent tweet I saw about Jeff Bezos worth, MacKenzie's net worth breaks down as this: If you earned $,48802 per day since the (stated) birth of Jesus you still wouldn't have as much money as MacKenzie Bezos.
    "If you earned $48,802 per day since the (stated) birth of Jesus you still wouldn't have as much money as MacKenzie Bezos."

    Consider that for 2019, the median salary in the USA was approximately $47,000. That statement demonstrates wealth inequality so well.
     :( 

    Sorry but the barista down the street has not done as much for humanity as Bezos has done. Does he deserve to have that much? Who knows and what difference does it make? If you are that concerned about wealth inequality come up with the idea that will kick his company's ass, then you can redistribute everything you earned.
    Congratulations on missing the point (because you want to). No one said a barista should make as much as Jeff Bezos.

    As for what “Bezos has done for humanity...”, his business actions have destroyed tons of smaller businesses and threaten economics systems. Try a wider look at things than gadgets and PR.
    Bezos didn’t ruin it.  We the people did.  When YOU buy from Amazon, YOU are taking business away from a local business and giving it TO BEZOS.

    stop blaming others and take responsibility.  It gets really old.

    if everyone stopped shopping at Amazon, it would be out of business.  Well?
    Amazon makes way more off AWS than retail. You use the internet? Yes? Then you can stop passing judgment. 
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  • Reply 27 of 30
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,487member
    Jared Kushner chats with MBS via WhatsApp. 
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  • Reply 28 of 30
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,179member
    Amazon makes way more off AWS than retail. You use the internet? Yes? Then you can stop passing judgment. 
    I'll stop as soon as everyone else here stops passing judgement and passing blame (and the buck) on others for the decisions they've made in life.
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  • Reply 29 of 30
    And we thought Nigerian prince is bad...

    hentaiboy said:
    This is why you shouldn’t accept funny cat videos from Saudi princes.

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  • Reply 30 of 30
    1st1st Posts: 443member
    no wonder saudi royal security force were using BlackBerry 99xx.
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