Apple 16-Inch MacBook Pro vs Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2 - portable power head to head

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in Current Mac Hardware edited February 2020
The 16-inch MacBook Pro is an exceptional machine that caters well to Apple's audience. But for those that consider themselves platform-agnostic, there are other similar machines that are worth considering. Let's compare the new 16-inch MacBook Pro to one of those machines from Lenovo.

Lenovo X1 Extreme (left) and Apple's 16-inch MacBook Pro (right)
Lenovo X1 Extreme (left) and Apple's 16-inch MacBook Pro (right)


Apple's 16-inch MacBook Pro is the machine that many Mac users have been waiting for. It has slimmed-down bezels, impressive power, and all of Apple's latest technology. Steadfast Apple users may see the upgrade as a no-brainer, but for others, there are other options to consider. Particularly within the Windows PC space.






One of the Windows machines that closely matches up with the 16-inch MacBook Pro is the second-generation Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme.

Apple 16-Inch MacBook Pro vs Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2 specifications

Lenovo X1 Extreme gen 2
Lenovo X1 Extreme gen 2


The Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2 model we picked up has a 15.6-inch display and is equipped with a six-core 2.6GHz i7 processor. It also comes with 32GB DDR4 RAM, a 512GB SSD, and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Max-Q 4GB graphics. That stacks up against our 16-inch MacBook Pro with its own 2.6GHz six-core i7 processor, 16GB of RAM, AMD Radeon Pro 5300M graphics, and a 512GB SSD.

The left-side ports of the X1 Extreme and MacBook Pro 16-inch
The ports on the left side of the X1 Extreme and MacBook Pro 16-inch


For ports, Apple keeps it simple with nothing but four 40gbit/second Thunderbolt 3 ports and a headphone jack. The X1 is more varied with two Thunderbolt 3 ports, a power input, an HDMI 2.0 port, an SD card reader, two USB-A ports, and an RJ45 via Ethernet Extension adapter.

The right-side ports of the X1 Extreme and MacBook Pro 16-inch
The ports on the right side of the X1 Extreme and MacBook Pro 16-inch


For those who insist on having legacy USB-A ports, the X1 has them -- though there is no shortage of adapters or updated cables to make this less of an ordeal. The X1 also has support for an Ethernet adapter though it is a proprietary dongle and not a standard port. It is also sold separately.

Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 216-Inch MacBook Pro
MSRP$3,799$2,399
ProcessorSix-core 2.6GHz i7 processorSix-core 2.6GHz i7 processor
Memory32GB RAM16GB RAM
Storage512GB SSD512GB SSD
GraphicsNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Max-Q 4GBAMD Radeon Pro 5300M with 4GB of GDDR6 memory
Display Specs15.6 inches, 500 nits brightness, matte finish, 141 PPI16 inches, 500 nits brightness, glossy finish, 226 PPI
Ports(2X) USB-A, HDMI 2.0, Kensington lock port, (2X) Thunderbolt 3, proprietary Rj45 Ethernet port, headphone jack, SD card reader, power input(4x) Thunderbolt 3, headphone jack
AuthenticationFacial recognition, fingerprintTouch ID
SpeakersDolby AtmosDolby Atmos
AssistantCortana, AlexaSiri
Depth, Width, Height14.2 x 9.7 x 0.714.09" x 9.68" x 0.64"
Weight(Starting at) 3.76 lbs4.3 lbs

Design

There are many differences when it comes to design, not the least of which is the more business-like approach that the X1 historically adopts versus the aluminum all-around nature of the MacBook Pro. The X1 has a matte black finish with relatively slim bezels around the display. An X1 logo is across from the ThinkPad logo on the top of the machine, and both are upright when the laptop is open.

Ports are equally split between both sides of the machine. Considering this machine is likely to end up in an office or college environment, it's beneficial to see the Kensington lock port on the right of the X1. Apple abandoned the Kensington lock port a long time ago.

MacBook Pro on top of the X1 Extreme
MacBook Pro on top of the X1 Extreme


Lenovo has multiple methods of authentication on the X1, including fingerprint and facial recognition. Apple has the superior Touch ID for authentication on the Mac but lacks Face ID or any other form of facial recognition. To make up for this, the Mac has the added benefit of authenticating credentials and payments via Apple Watch.

The two PC makers have different approaches to the keyboard and trackpads on each laptop and it is hard to give the edge to either one. Apple has its latest butterfly keyboard design that is quiet, fast, and very low profile. It also has a massive glass trackpad that is very much loved.

Alternatively, the Lenovo X1 has more tactile keys that sit higher and have more travel. They are a bit louder when typing quickly, which can be good or bad depending on a user's preference. In the center of the keyboard is Lenovo's signature mouse nub that is very easy to control and loved by many as well. The trackpad also can be tapped, but feature additional buttons above the tracking surface.

Apple's large glass trackpad
Apple's large glass trackpad


Personally, we prefer the large glass surface of Apple's multi-touch trackpad but we know users swear by the physical buttons and pointing stick. The one thing we can defiantly say we dislike about the Lenovo keyboard though is the backlight bleed. Light comes out from the keys that sit so high and can be distracting unlike the backlight on Apple's keyboard that only emits from the glowing letter, number, or symbol on each key.

Both laptops have incredible sounding speakers, even supporting Dolby Atmos playback.

Apple's MacBook Pro has a glossy, higher-resolution display
Apple's MacBook Pro has a glossy, higher-resolution display


Looking at the displays, the X1 comes in at a standard 16:9 ratio at 1920 by 1080 while the MacBook Pro measures at 3072 x 1920. That computes to a PPI of 226 on the Mac and around 141 PPI on the Lenovo. Both can achieve brightness of up to 500 nits. One drastic difference is that Lenovo opted for a matte finish while the Mac is glossy.

Lenovo does have the ability to fold completely open with 180-degrees of rotation.

Finally, Apple's laptop comes with Siri support which can be helpful if you are already in the Apple ecosystem because it can access messages, your smart home devices, and much more across your iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, and other Macs. Lenovo's X1 comes equipped with Cortana or Alexa for your preference which may be equally useful if you are tied into either of those ecosystems.

Performance

In terms of performance, the X1 pulled 2530 on Cinebench R20 and 1249 single-core and 5467 multi-core on Geekbench 5.1.

When we ran the tests on the MacBook Pro, it slightly underperformed on the single-core Geekbench 5.1 benchmark earning a 1069 but outperformed on the multi-core with a 5639. On Cinebench R20, the MacBook Pro scored a 2788, quite a bit above the X1 Extreme.

One thing that may come into play with the lower scores on Cinebench is cooling. The vents of the X1 are directly below the machine and the fans were very loud when maxed out. The Mac was significantly quieter and was able to sustain its higher speeds longer than the X1 could manage.


Video encoding

On the video work side, we need to talk about Intel QuickSync. Both our 16-inch MacBook Pro and Lenovo X1 support QuickSync.

On top of that, Apple also has VideoToolbox. This is Apple's low-level framework for iOS, macOS, and tvOS that provides software with access to hardware-based encoders and decoders, for the purposes of compression, decompression, and transcoding. Apple's custom T2 chip is used to accelerate video encoding, and also manages security via Touch ID and payment credentials.

Video encoding test results
Video encoding test results


In a test that we have run before, that uses a custom preset for Handbrake and a master file of an AppleInsider review video, the Lenovo X1 took 4 minutes and 18 seconds while the MacBook Pro was able to knock it out in only 2 minutes and 22 seconds. A huge improvement for video professionals.

Apples versus Lenovos

In this comparison, we looked at comparable models of the 16-inch MacBook Pro versus the latest Lenovo X1 Extreme. Both can be outfitted with a wide range of improvements from more storage, to faster processors, to additional RAM. Between the two, the MacBook Pro can be outfitted more at the point of purchase, including the ability to configure it with up to an 8TB SSD.

Both of these machines can also gain significantly more connectivity through Thunderbolt 3. External GPUs, ultra-fast PCIe storage bays, and of course external displays.

Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2 (left) compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro (right)
Lenovo X1 Extreme Gen 2 (left) compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro (right)


When it comes to the actual machines themselves, it comes down to -- as it often does -- a Windows PC versus a Mac.

The MacBook Pro won out by a hair in terms of raw performance and won handily in video encoding. It has more Thunderbolt 3 ports, a higher resolution vibrant display, and the superb hardware and software integration Apple is known for. The last one is a huge factor in why users are drawn to Apple in the first place.

Lenovo offers up a larger array of various ports, a matte-finished display, additional physical buttons with the trackpad, Alexa support, facial recognition for authentication, is great for office environments, and is no slouch when it comes to performance itself.

At AppleInsider, it comes as no surprise that we prefer the Mac in this comparison but can appreciate the usefulness and preference people have for the Lenovo X1 Extreme. If you need Windows Hardware, you need Windows hardware. It doesn't have to be a spiteful debate between the two but the result of necessity. If you have no allegiance between the two, this comparison should give you a better idea at which to gravitate towards based on your particular needs.

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Meanwhile, Lenovo's X1 Extreme with 32GB of memory, 512GB SSD and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 graphics is priced at $2,499 at B&H. Both the Apple MacBook Pro and Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme qualify for free 2-day shipping within the contiguous U.S.

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 19
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,508member
    For the price comparison wouldn't it have been better to spec 32GB and a 1TB SD on the MacBook to same  storage as the Lenovo, a bit more Apples to Apple's on the hardware? Doing so does bump the MacBook to $2999 though.

    BTW I love these comparisons you do, altho adding some real-life usage rather than just benchmarks would be helpful to potential buyers. Perhaps opening a photo image catalog, exporting a completed image, working with a spreadsheet and a largish database, common things the computer might be used for. Video encoding speed is nice to know of course, but not nearly as common a task as the ones I mentioned.
    edited January 2020
  • Reply 2 of 19
    Is the Razer Blade also a worthy comparison...?
  • Reply 3 of 19
    MacBook Pro 16 inch has a scissors keyboard.
    GeorgeBMacwatto_cobrawilliamlondon
  • Reply 4 of 19
    If I was going to subject myself to a PC laptop again, I guess Lenovo is what I would go with. I used to have an IBM ThinkBook, just for testing cross platform stuff. I didn't hate it.

    You couldn't pay me to touch a Dell.

    viclauyycwatto_cobraPickUrPoison
  • Reply 5 of 19
    Anyway, if I'd need a PC I'd run something like Parallels on the MBP. No need for a separate machine.
    viclauyycwatto_cobraPickUrPoison
  • Reply 6 of 19
    Finally, comparing two devices that are actually about the same.  Lenovo as the successor to the IBM PC Company is really where you can get the apple to apple comparison, if you will pardon the pun.  

    I haven't tried the apple 16" keyboard, but I can't imagine it being better than my 2018 Macbook Pro 15" keyboard.  My lenovo keyboard with the pointing stick is just better than the apple keyboard.  The workflow feels better.  It is just more comfortable.

    specwise, they are both great machine with top quality hardware.  
    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 7 of 19
    mcdavemcdave Posts: 1,919member
    “more business-like approach” - practically all business notebooks I see in the wild are silver MacBook-alikes these days.
    Also, drop the pussy-footing around Mac vs PC agnosticism, the people who take offence always will and it’s a painful read for the rest of us.
    edited January 2020 watto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 19
    thttht Posts: 4,711member
    14.09" x 9.68" x .064"
    Probably should move the decimal point to the right of the zero for the MacBook Pro thickness dimension.

    Can you measure the thickness of the Lenovo? Not regurgitate Lenovo’s ad-copy, but measure it? Those are some pretty tall feet, for cooling I’m sure. This and the optical illusion of the MBP tapering from the edges also makes it very hard to see what the actual thickness differences are.

    Also, which Core i7 models are in the machines?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 19
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,213member
    Why do PC users always leave the marketing stickers on their palmrests? I see it allllllll the time and it drives me batty. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 19
    Appleish said:
    If I was going to subject myself to a PC laptop again, I guess Lenovo is what I would go with. I used to have an IBM ThinkBook, just for testing cross platform stuff. I didn't hate it.

    You couldn't pay me to touch a Dell.

    I know MBP is made in China but Lenovo is own by Chinese. That is why even if I need to get a pc laptop, i will not touch Lenovo. 

    Don’t call me racist, I am a Chinese.

    What’s wrong with Dell? It was really good when I use PC 20 years ago.
    watto_cobrawilliamlondon
  • Reply 11 of 19
    wallym said:
    Finally, comparing two devices that are actually about the same.  Lenovo as the successor to the IBM PC Company is really where you can get the apple to apple comparison, if you will pardon the pun.  

    I haven't tried the apple 16" keyboard, but I can't imagine it being better than my 2018 Macbook Pro 15" keyboard.  My lenovo keyboard with the pointing stick is just better than the apple keyboard.  The workflow feels better.  It is just more comfortable.

    specwise, they are both great machine with top quality hardware.  
    Argument from failure of imagination is basically what creationists do. You should avoid it.

    The keyboards of those two Macs are completely different, mechanically. One is butterfly, the other scissors.
    watto_cobrawilliamlondon
  • Reply 12 of 19
    Why is a comparison between the two GPU’s missing? This is a major part of a computer. 
  • Reply 13 of 19
    Leaving PC vs. Mac aside, the key advantage of the MBP is the build quality. I’m guessing the X1 has a plastic shell and the mousepad in Lenovo machines is frankly terrible. I routinely take my mouse to meetings if I’m going to do a lot of moving the pointer around.  I’ve never seen anyone use the mouse stick. It is so archaic. 
    Typically I have to replace my Lenovo laptops every 2 years. They slow down a lot over time and show their age quickly. Battery life sucks and power management is poor. I bought my current MBP almost 4 years to the day and it looks and feels like new. Granted the keyboard was replaced as part of the butterfly issue which also changes out the battery so some life extension there.  However that also shows how well Apple support their products. 
    My general point is that MBPs are superior machines and will last significantly longer than a Lenovo laptop. Most IT does not consider total cost of ownership when purchasing PCs but the fact that I only purchase a new MBP every 4-5 years is a big deal for me. As an FYI my previous laptop is now used to manage my media server at home. That was bought in 2012 and is still going strong.  I did replace the battery (which also changed the top surface and keyboard) for $200 and Apple replaced the display for free as part of a delamination issue with that generation.  
    watto_cobrawilliamlondon
  • Reply 14 of 19
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    Appleish said:
    If I was going to subject myself to a PC laptop again, I guess Lenovo is what I would go with. I used to have an IBM ThinkBook, just for testing cross platform stuff. I didn't hate it.

    You couldn't pay me to touch a Dell.


    I have a MacBook and a Thinkpad side by side both ready to use.   Generally, I use the Thinkpad for regular work and the MacBook for video stuff and interfacing with other Apple systems (email, contacts, messages, FaceTime, Apple Numbers, Apple music, Apple News+, etc...) 

    Of the two, the Thinkpad gets 75% of the use -- largely due to the vastly superior keyboard and buttons on the Trackpad.  It's just easier to use.
    williamlondon
  • Reply 15 of 19
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    doggone said:
    Leaving PC vs. Mac aside, the key advantage of the MBP is the build quality. I’m guessing the X1 has a plastic shell and the mousepad in Lenovo machines is frankly terrible. I routinely take my mouse to meetings if I’m going to do a lot of moving the pointer around.  I’ve never seen anyone use the mouse stick. It is so archaic. 
    Typically I have to replace my Lenovo laptops every 2 years. They slow down a lot over time and show their age quickly. Battery life sucks and power management is poor. I bought my current MBP almost 4 years to the day and it looks and feels like new. Granted the keyboard was replaced as part of the butterfly issue which also changes out the battery so some life extension there.  However that also shows how well Apple support their products. 
    My general point is that MBPs are superior machines and will last significantly longer than a Lenovo laptop. Most IT does not consider total cost of ownership when purchasing PCs but the fact that I only purchase a new MBP every 4-5 years is a big deal for me. As an FYI my previous laptop is now used to manage my media server at home. That was bought in 2012 and is still going strong.  I did replace the battery (which also changed the top surface and keyboard) for $200 and Apple replaced the display for free as part of a delamination issue with that generation.  

    Huh?
    Thinkpads and other Lenovo products are typically known as bullet proof and indestructable.   While Lenovo manufacturers a far wider spectrum of machine models than Apple (some are low cost budget items), generally their build quality (at least in their high end products) is at least as good as anything Apple ever put out.

    But, when you said you have to replace your Lenovo laptop every two years, I realize your piece was a rant not reality.  My financial laptop -- a T60p, is now 13 years old, running the current release of Windows and going strong.
    gatorguy
  • Reply 16 of 19
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    It is really difficult comparing Apple products of any type to the 'mainstream' competitors simply because, when comparing hardware to hardware, the competitor will almost always match or exceed the Apple product -- and that is particularly true with laptops because, for the most part, MacBooks simply use off-the-shelf components available to any laptop assembler.

    The real difference between MacBooks and Laptops lies in Apple's software & OS as well as its ecosystem -- including interfacing with other Apple products.

    For myself, I have a MacBook and Lenovo sitting side by side.   The Lenovo gets most of the use because of its superior keyboard and trackpad buttons.  It's just easier and more efficient to use.   But it cannot (efficiently) access Apple Numbers, Apple Music, messages, FaceTime, contacts, etc., etc., etc.,  Plus its sound and video quality are not nearly as good.   But, for general work, it is by far, the best and easiest to use. 

    As for longevity, I anticipate the Lenovo will be running far past the time Apple drops support for the MacBook because Microsoft doesn't put age limits on the hardware their software supports.
    edited January 2020
  • Reply 17 of 19
    doggonedoggone Posts: 329member
    doggone said:
    Leaving PC vs. Mac aside, the key advantage of the MBP is the build quality. I’m guessing the X1 has a plastic shell and the mousepad in Lenovo machines is frankly terrible. I routinely take my mouse to meetings if I’m going to do a lot of moving the pointer around.  I’ve never seen anyone use the mouse stick. It is so archaic. 
    Typically I have to replace my Lenovo laptops every 2 years. They slow down a lot over time and show their age quickly. Battery life sucks and power management is poor. I bought my current MBP almost 4 years to the day and it looks and feels like new. Granted the keyboard was replaced as part of the butterfly issue which also changes out the battery so some life extension there.  However that also shows how well Apple support their products. 
    My general point is that MBPs are superior machines and will last significantly longer than a Lenovo laptop. Most IT does not consider total cost of ownership when purchasing PCs but the fact that I only purchase a new MBP every 4-5 years is a big deal for me. As an FYI my previous laptop is now used to manage my media server at home. That was bought in 2012 and is still going strong.  I did replace the battery (which also changed the top surface and keyboard) for $200 and Apple replaced the display for free as part of a delamination issue with that generation.  

    Huh?
    Thinkpads and other Lenovo products are typically known as bullet proof and indestructable.   While Lenovo manufacturers a far wider spectrum of machine models than Apple (some are low cost budget items), generally their build quality (at least in their high end products) is at least as good as anything Apple ever put out.

    But, when you said you have to replace your Lenovo laptop every two years, I realize your piece was a rant not reality.  My financial laptop -- a T60p, is now 13 years old, running the current release of Windows and going strong.
    doggone said:
    Leaving PC vs. Mac aside, the key advantage of the MBP is the build quality. I’m guessing the X1 has a plastic shell and the mousepad in Lenovo machines is frankly terrible. I routinely take my mouse to meetings if I’m going to do a lot of moving the pointer around.  I’ve never seen anyone use the mouse stick. It is so archaic. 
    Typically I have to replace my Lenovo laptops every 2 years. They slow down a lot over time and show their age quickly. Battery life sucks and power management is poor. I bought my current MBP almost 4 years to the day and it looks and feels like new. Granted the keyboard was replaced as part of the butterfly issue which also changes out the battery so some life extension there.  However that also shows how well Apple support their products. 
    My general point is that MBPs are superior machines and will last significantly longer than a Lenovo laptop. Most IT does not consider total cost of ownership when purchasing PCs but the fact that I only purchase a new MBP every 4-5 years is a big deal for me. As an FYI my previous laptop is now used to manage my media server at home. That was bought in 2012 and is still going strong.  I did replace the battery (which also changed the top surface and keyboard) for $200 and Apple replaced the display for free as part of a delamination issue with that generation.  

    Huh?
    Thinkpads and other Lenovo products are typically known as bullet proof and indestructable.   While Lenovo manufacturers a far wider spectrum of machine models than Apple (some are low cost budget items), generally their build quality (at least in their high end products) is at least as good as anything Apple ever put out.

    But, when you said you have to replace your Lenovo laptop every two years, I realize your piece was a rant not reality.  My financial laptop -- a T60p, is now 13 years old, running the current release of Windows and going strong.
    Absolutely not a rant.  I am just giving my experience with my company and the PCs they provide.  The previous ThinkPad I had was 2 years old.  One of the keys fell off after a year. It would crash nearly every time the lid was closed.  The battery would barely last 1-2 hours which was getting very annoying in meetings. Some of these issues are certainly software but others are clearly hardware problems. So in the end I got a new one since I’m traveling a lot this quarter and I don’t need to have those problems on the road. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 19
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    doggone said:
    doggone said:
    Leaving PC vs. Mac aside, the key advantage of the MBP is the build quality. I’m guessing the X1 has a plastic shell and the mousepad in Lenovo machines is frankly terrible. I routinely take my mouse to meetings if I’m going to do a lot of moving the pointer around.  I’ve never seen anyone use the mouse stick. It is so archaic. 
    Typically I have to replace my Lenovo laptops every 2 years. They slow down a lot over time and show their age quickly. Battery life sucks and power management is poor. I bought my current MBP almost 4 years to the day and it looks and feels like new. Granted the keyboard was replaced as part of the butterfly issue which also changes out the battery so some life extension there.  However that also shows how well Apple support their products. 
    My general point is that MBPs are superior machines and will last significantly longer than a Lenovo laptop. Most IT does not consider total cost of ownership when purchasing PCs but the fact that I only purchase a new MBP every 4-5 years is a big deal for me. As an FYI my previous laptop is now used to manage my media server at home. That was bought in 2012 and is still going strong.  I did replace the battery (which also changed the top surface and keyboard) for $200 and Apple replaced the display for free as part of a delamination issue with that generation.  

    Huh?
    Thinkpads and other Lenovo products are typically known as bullet proof and indestructable.   While Lenovo manufacturers a far wider spectrum of machine models than Apple (some are low cost budget items), generally their build quality (at least in their high end products) is at least as good as anything Apple ever put out.

    But, when you said you have to replace your Lenovo laptop every two years, I realize your piece was a rant not reality.  My financial laptop -- a T60p, is now 13 years old, running the current release of Windows and going strong.
    doggone said:
    Leaving PC vs. Mac aside, the key advantage of the MBP is the build quality. I’m guessing the X1 has a plastic shell and the mousepad in Lenovo machines is frankly terrible. I routinely take my mouse to meetings if I’m going to do a lot of moving the pointer around.  I’ve never seen anyone use the mouse stick. It is so archaic. 
    Typically I have to replace my Lenovo laptops every 2 years. They slow down a lot over time and show their age quickly. Battery life sucks and power management is poor. I bought my current MBP almost 4 years to the day and it looks and feels like new. Granted the keyboard was replaced as part of the butterfly issue which also changes out the battery so some life extension there.  However that also shows how well Apple support their products. 
    My general point is that MBPs are superior machines and will last significantly longer than a Lenovo laptop. Most IT does not consider total cost of ownership when purchasing PCs but the fact that I only purchase a new MBP every 4-5 years is a big deal for me. As an FYI my previous laptop is now used to manage my media server at home. That was bought in 2012 and is still going strong.  I did replace the battery (which also changed the top surface and keyboard) for $200 and Apple replaced the display for free as part of a delamination issue with that generation.  

    Huh?
    Thinkpads and other Lenovo products are typically known as bullet proof and indestructable.   While Lenovo manufacturers a far wider spectrum of machine models than Apple (some are low cost budget items), generally their build quality (at least in their high end products) is at least as good as anything Apple ever put out.

    But, when you said you have to replace your Lenovo laptop every two years, I realize your piece was a rant not reality.  My financial laptop -- a T60p, is now 13 years old, running the current release of Windows and going strong.
    Absolutely not a rant.  I am just giving my experience with my company and the PCs they provide.  The previous ThinkPad I had was 2 years old.  One of the keys fell off after a year. It would crash nearly every time the lid was closed.  The battery would barely last 1-2 hours which was getting very annoying in meetings. Some of these issues are certainly software but others are clearly hardware problems. So in the end I got a new one since I’m traveling a lot this quarter and I don’t need to have those problems on the road. 

    If it wasn't a rant then your experience with a ThinkPad was, shall we say, "unusual".
    Thinkpads did not get their reputations as bullet proof from marketing but from nearly 20 years of user experience.   Reality.

    In addition, damaged Thinkpad keyboards, unlike those of MacBooks, can be quickly, easily and cheaply replaced in the field.
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