Ah yes, free to download, subscription required to use. Nothing beats paying rent for Office indefinitely for life. No thanks.
I'm perfectly satisfied with subscribing to Office 365. As many Mac users found out the hard way when they updated to macOS Catalina, old software eventually breaks. Same goes for the Adobe CS6 crowd screaming bloody murder. If you use these apps for business it behoves you to stay current. It's an ongoing investment.
I also like the 1TB of One Drvie storage and 60 minutes/mo of Skype included in the subscription.
Maybe my expectations were too high, but Excel for iPhone/iPad is just too anemic for my uses, which include downloading stock and other functions. I really want it to be better, and the editing is just too clunky, even with a keyboard attached tot he iPad. Excel is definitely an app where a mouse is critical for efficient use.
Not these days IMHO. I would have agreed until Windows 10. I have five PCs now as well as seven macs and all the PCs run Windows 10 pro with no third party anti whatever crap, MS's built in defenses have proven able to keep all my hardware safe thus far. 99% of the issues with Windows was always crapware and the likes of anti-virus apps as they were malware themselves. That said, no PC is used for mail or web access. Just applications or Mysql.
Alas at work I have to use Windows 10 machines - whereas at home I’m purely Mac. We can’t take security lightly so they are still loaded up with 3rd party anti-virus, disabled USB ports, ultra-string drive encryption etc
But that still doesn’t alter the fact Windows is crapware, regularly crashing, with a dysfunctional UI, and horrendous compatibility issues with drivers etc. So yes, I’d stand by “MicroSoft = Malware”, not “mal” as in “malicious” but “mal” as in “bad” (eg malpractice, malfeasance, etc).
Is Microsoft going to continue to offer the separate Office 365 apps for iOS and iPadOS? I have no problems with picking and choosing only the apps and functionality that I need. For example, I don’t need PowerPoint.
I am usually not a fan of Swiss Army knife style apps, especially from Microsoft. The hideousness of the whole usually exceeds the hideousness of the sum of the parts. Outlook with its combination of calendar and email functionality just doesn’t play well with with non-Microsoft calendar and email programs, at least on all of my Apple devices. When I reply to a calendar invitation from an Outlook user it is never handled cleanly by my iPhone or iPad, even if I use the attached ics file. It also behaves differently again on my Mac, I always get a follow up email asking why I didn’t accept the invitation when in fact I did. Royal PIA. After having lived through the horror show that was Lotus Notes I always run for cover whenever I see a single app that tries to do too many things. Yeah, like iTunes.
This never would’ve happened on Bill’s watch!
(Just kidding, he would’ve integrated something even more hideous, like VBA, into the comglomerated Office app for iOS/iPadOS.)
Not these days IMHO. I would have agreed until Windows 10. I have five PCs now as well as seven macs and all the PCs run Windows 10 pro with no third party anti whatever crap, MS's built in defenses have proven able to keep all my hardware safe thus far. 99% of the issues with Windows was always crapware and the likes of anti-virus apps as they were malware themselves. That said, no PC is used for mail or web access. Just applications or Mysql.
^ Windows Defender is decent (if barebones)
With Apple’s increased risk of malware, they need to develop something similar. ... Any time a Windows machine is purchased it needs to be immediately wiped and loaded with the ISO from Microsoft’s website. The malware/crap ware is coming from the OEMs.
That is exactly what I do. That said Dell shipped me a clean PC with no crapware and when I buy servers from eBay I totally wipe and reinstall Windows 10 Pro N.
Apple already has the equivalent of defender you just don't see it.
Ah yes, free to download, subscription required to use. Nothing beats paying rent for Office indefinitely for life. No thanks.
You might try reading the actual article. The new Office app is free to access and save documents to cloud services, and while an Office 365 subscription unlocks "premium features," it is not required. That said ... what's the difference between paying $80-100/year or $300-500 every three to five years for the non-sub version in order to stay current on Office? Oh wait, virtually nothing!
It’s interesting that Apple has to break up iTunes, because some people can’t deal with its all in one functionality, which never bothered me. But now, Microsoft is giving us an all in one version of Office, and people seem happy about it. This all seems pretty strange to me. Are people going to complain of the complexity, or is there a different standard here?
You make a good point, but in this case, MS is basically combining everything into something to create documents
Apple had something called iTunes that handled music, video, book syncing, device syncing, mobile apps ...
It’s interesting that Apple has to break up iTunes, because some people can’t deal with its all in one functionality, which never bothered me. But now, Microsoft is giving us an all in one version of Office, and people seem happy about it. This all seems pretty strange to me. Are people going to complain of the complexity, or is there a different standard here?
You make a good point, but in this case, MS is basically combining everything into something to create documents
Apple had something called iTunes that handled music, video, book syncing, device syncing, mobile apps ...
Excell and PowerPoint are as close to “documents” as movies and Tv shows are to music. One is Office work, and the other is multimedia. I always found it convienient to have it all together. You just clicked to go from one to the other. No big deal. Software updates there too, because iTunes was a download center. No problem there either. I never understood why some people, and it wasn’t by any means a majority, got so twisted over it. I think taking the app apart has been more confusing. Now, you have to go all over the place to do what you could do in one place.
Not these days IMHO. I would have agreed until Windows 10. I have five PCs now as well as seven macs and all the PCs run Windows 10 pro with no third party anti whatever crap, MS's built in defenses have proven able to keep all my hardware safe thus far. 99% of the issues with Windows was always crapware and the likes of anti-virus apps as they were malware themselves. That said, no PC is used for mail or web access. Just applications or Mysql.
Windows Defender (They will call it Advanced Threat Defense or somethjng along those lines) will be available for your Apple devices sometime later this year.
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I also like the 1TB of One Drvie storage and 60 minutes/mo of Skype included in the subscription.
But that still doesn’t alter the fact Windows is crapware, regularly crashing, with a dysfunctional UI, and horrendous compatibility issues with drivers etc. So yes, I’d stand by “MicroSoft = Malware”, not “mal” as in “malicious” but “mal” as in “bad” (eg malpractice, malfeasance, etc).
I am usually not a fan of Swiss Army knife style apps, especially from Microsoft. The hideousness of the whole usually exceeds the hideousness of the sum of the parts. Outlook with its combination of calendar and email functionality just doesn’t play well with with non-Microsoft calendar and email programs, at least on all of my Apple devices. When I reply to a calendar invitation from an Outlook user it is never handled cleanly by my iPhone or iPad, even if I use the attached ics file. It also behaves differently again on my Mac, I always get a follow up email asking why I didn’t accept the invitation when in fact I did. Royal PIA. After having lived through the horror show that was Lotus Notes I always run for cover whenever I see a single app that tries to do too many things. Yeah, like iTunes.
This never would’ve happened on Bill’s watch!
(Just kidding, he would’ve integrated something even more hideous, like VBA, into the comglomerated Office app for iOS/iPadOS.)
Apple already has the equivalent of defender you just don't see it.
Apple had something called iTunes that handled music, video, book syncing, device syncing, mobile apps ...