iPhone 11 is second-best selling smartphone globally in 2019

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  • Reply 21 of 24
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Beats said:
    avon b7 said:
    Soli said:
    Huawei again fails to have best selling smartphone, Avon is butthurt over it. Story at eleven.
    Hardly. 

    It's is like saying Huawei has the top selling folding phone model. It's a data point. No more. No less. And largely worthless.

    Nothing whatsoever to do with innovation.


    You really should be butthurt over it considering the knockoffs flood the market with cheap models while Apple destroys 1,000+ companies with just a few models.
    It has no relevance. It is a simple question of model spreads and choice. The user does what he or she sees fit. The actual information doesn't really have any significance beyond being a data point.

    If you want a 5G iPhone you have to wait until at least September 2020.

    The same applies for dozens of other features for iPhones.

    If iPhones are your thing, then your options are going to be very limited. Three models (historically two) and Apple being the sole decider on what users get and at what price. That's how it is and you have your own opinion on if that is a good or bad thing.

    If you sell 200 million iPhones, it is very likely that - in terms of models - they will top this kind of model based list. 

    iPhones only get ONE refresh per year. They go 12 months without change.

    The same doesn't happen on Android phones as the flagships are upgraded every 6 months.

    Choice is infinitely wider on Android as a result. If you want that 5G phone you don't have to wait. It's already there and there are plenty of models to choose from.

    Apple doesn't 'destroy' anyone.  That has no relevance here either. And Android phones have always been available at all price points. Again, that's more choice. There are cheap phones, mid-range phones and mega expensive ultra premium phones. I find that is a perfect market presence. There is literally something for everyone.

    Not long ago, and right here on AI, some people would say that if you couldn't afford an iPhone, you just had to save for longer. The value of the phone was rarely considered. I jumped ship to a $200 Android phone and was blown away. I never went back. 

    Now, after years (literally) of flat sales Apple is providing more and has reduced prices. There are even rumours of a new $399 iPhone. Largely as a result of the overall Android market bringing features to market at a rampant pace.

    If that materialises, iPhone users will have a touch more choice but just a smidgen. The real choice will remain on Android and as a result I wouldn't expect to see and Android phone at the top of this kind of lists. Not that the situation is relevant in any shape or form.
    There's no data to the effect that Android is driving anything in the iPhone market.... I don't think that Apple is too concerned about the Android market.
    Then why are so many here concerned about it?
    People here aren't Apple.

    Other than Google Pixel, is there any other Android manufacturer, sans some boutique brand, that makes fewer models than Apple? Apple obviously puts all of its engineering into the minimal number of models because it generates better products at larger production runs, which drives costs down and allows higher ASP's and margins.
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  • Reply 22 of 24
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Beats said:
    avon b7 said:
    Soli said:
    Huawei again fails to have best selling smartphone, Avon is butthurt over it. Story at eleven.
    Hardly. 

    It's is like saying Huawei has the top selling folding phone model. It's a data point. No more. No less. And largely worthless.

    Nothing whatsoever to do with innovation.


    You really should be butthurt over it considering the knockoffs flood the market with cheap models while Apple destroys 1,000+ companies with just a few models.
    It has no relevance. It is a simple question of model spreads and choice. The user does what he or she sees fit. The actual information doesn't really have any significance beyond being a data point.

    If you want a 5G iPhone you have to wait until at least September 2020.

    The same applies for dozens of other features for iPhones.

    If iPhones are your thing, then your options are going to be very limited. Three models (historically two) and Apple being the sole decider on what users get and at what price. That's how it is and you have your own opinion on if that is a good or bad thing.

    If you sell 200 million iPhones, it is very likely that - in terms of models - they will top this kind of model based list. 

    iPhones only get ONE refresh per year. They go 12 months without change.

    The same doesn't happen on Android phones as the flagships are upgraded every 6 months.

    Choice is infinitely wider on Android as a result. If you want that 5G phone you don't have to wait. It's already there and there are plenty of models to choose from.

    Apple doesn't 'destroy' anyone.  That has no relevance here either. And Android phones have always been available at all price points. Again, that's more choice. There are cheap phones, mid-range phones and mega expensive ultra premium phones. I find that is a perfect market presence. There is literally something for everyone.

    Not long ago, and right here on AI, some people would say that if you couldn't afford an iPhone, you just had to save for longer. The value of the phone was rarely considered. I jumped ship to a $200 Android phone and was blown away. I never went back. 

    Now, after years (literally) of flat sales Apple is providing more and has reduced prices. There are even rumours of a new $399 iPhone. Largely as a result of the overall Android market bringing features to market at a rampant pace.

    If that materialises, iPhone users will have a touch more choice but just a smidgen. The real choice will remain on Android and as a result I wouldn't expect to see and Android phone at the top of this kind of lists. Not that the situation is relevant in any shape or form.
    There's no data to the effect that Android is driving anything in the iPhone market.... I don't think that Apple is too concerned about the Android market.
    Then why are so many here concerned about it?
    People here aren't Apple.
    Not exactly an answer unless you are saying there's an irrational concern about it shown here. 
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  • Reply 23 of 24
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Beats said:
    avon b7 said:
    Soli said:
    Huawei again fails to have best selling smartphone, Avon is butthurt over it. Story at eleven.
    Hardly. 

    It's is like saying Huawei has the top selling folding phone model. It's a data point. No more. No less. And largely worthless.

    Nothing whatsoever to do with innovation.


    You really should be butthurt over it considering the knockoffs flood the market with cheap models while Apple destroys 1,000+ companies with just a few models.
    It has no relevance. It is a simple question of model spreads and choice. The user does what he or she sees fit. The actual information doesn't really have any significance beyond being a data point.

    If you want a 5G iPhone you have to wait until at least September 2020.

    The same applies for dozens of other features for iPhones.

    If iPhones are your thing, then your options are going to be very limited. Three models (historically two) and Apple being the sole decider on what users get and at what price. That's how it is and you have your own opinion on if that is a good or bad thing.

    If you sell 200 million iPhones, it is very likely that - in terms of models - they will top this kind of model based list. 

    iPhones only get ONE refresh per year. They go 12 months without change.

    The same doesn't happen on Android phones as the flagships are upgraded every 6 months.

    Choice is infinitely wider on Android as a result. If you want that 5G phone you don't have to wait. It's already there and there are plenty of models to choose from.

    Apple doesn't 'destroy' anyone.  That has no relevance here either. And Android phones have always been available at all price points. Again, that's more choice. There are cheap phones, mid-range phones and mega expensive ultra premium phones. I find that is a perfect market presence. There is literally something for everyone.

    Not long ago, and right here on AI, some people would say that if you couldn't afford an iPhone, you just had to save for longer. The value of the phone was rarely considered. I jumped ship to a $200 Android phone and was blown away. I never went back. 

    Now, after years (literally) of flat sales Apple is providing more and has reduced prices. There are even rumours of a new $399 iPhone. Largely as a result of the overall Android market bringing features to market at a rampant pace.

    If that materialises, iPhone users will have a touch more choice but just a smidgen. The real choice will remain on Android and as a result I wouldn't expect to see and Android phone at the top of this kind of lists. Not that the situation is relevant in any shape or form.
    There's no data to the effect that Android is driving anything in the iPhone market.... I don't think that Apple is too concerned about the Android market.
    Then why are so many here concerned about it?
    People here aren't Apple.
    Not exactly an answer unless you are saying there's an irrational concern about it shown here. 
    There are irrational concerns and POV's posted here; people/OP's attempting to create a horse race, and that includes some of our Android OS devices users as well, especially a few concern trolls.

    Oh, and lots of goalpost moving.
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  • Reply 24 of 24
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Beats said:
    avon b7 said:
    Soli said:
    Huawei again fails to have best selling smartphone, Avon is butthurt over it. Story at eleven.
    Hardly. 

    It's is like saying Huawei has the top selling folding phone model. It's a data point. No more. No less. And largely worthless.

    Nothing whatsoever to do with innovation.


    You really should be butthurt over it considering the knockoffs flood the market with cheap models while Apple destroys 1,000+ companies with just a few models.
    It has no relevance. It is a simple question of model spreads and choice. The user does what he or she sees fit. The actual information doesn't really have any significance beyond being a data point.

    If you want a 5G iPhone you have to wait until at least September 2020.

    The same applies for dozens of other features for iPhones.

    If iPhones are your thing, then your options are going to be very limited. Three models (historically two) and Apple being the sole decider on what users get and at what price. That's how it is and you have your own opinion on if that is a good or bad thing.

    If you sell 200 million iPhones, it is very likely that - in terms of models - they will top this kind of model based list. 

    iPhones only get ONE refresh per year. They go 12 months without change.

    The same doesn't happen on Android phones as the flagships are upgraded every 6 months.

    Choice is infinitely wider on Android as a result. If you want that 5G phone you don't have to wait. It's already there and there are plenty of models to choose from.

    Apple doesn't 'destroy' anyone.  That has no relevance here either. And Android phones have always been available at all price points. Again, that's more choice. There are cheap phones, mid-range phones and mega expensive ultra premium phones. I find that is a perfect market presence. There is literally something for everyone.

    Not long ago, and right here on AI, some people would say that if you couldn't afford an iPhone, you just had to save for longer. The value of the phone was rarely considered. I jumped ship to a $200 Android phone and was blown away. I never went back. 

    Now, after years (literally) of flat sales Apple is providing more and has reduced prices. There are even rumours of a new $399 iPhone. Largely as a result of the overall Android market bringing features to market at a rampant pace.

    If that materialises, iPhone users will have a touch more choice but just a smidgen. The real choice will remain on Android and as a result I wouldn't expect to see and Android phone at the top of this kind of lists. Not that the situation is relevant in any shape or form.
    There's no data to the effect that Android is driving anything in the iPhone market.... I don't think that Apple is too concerned about the Android market.
    Then why are so many here concerned about it?
    People here aren't Apple.
    Not exactly an answer unless you are saying there's an irrational concern about it shown here. 
    There are irrational concerns and POV's posted here; people/OP's attempting to create a horse race, and that includes some of our Android OS devices users as well, especially a few concern trolls.

    Oh, and lots of goalpost moving.
    Now we're on the same page. ;)
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