Apple to give retail, hourly workers with coronavirus symptoms unlimited sick leave

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in General Discussion edited March 2020
As part of continuing efforts to stop the spread of COVID-19, Apple is offering hourly workers and retail employees unlimited sick leave if they exhibit symptoms of the virus, according to a report on Monday.

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According to 9to5Mac, workers suffering from symptoms indicative of the new coronavirus are able to take leave without providing the usual doctor's note to management. Whether the policy applies worldwide or is restricted to U.S. operations is unknown.

In any case, the decision to keep employees out of the office or Apple Stores, with pay, is a deft move that enables Apple to protect both its customers and workers during the fast-moving crisis.

For now, Apple's retail locations in the U.S. will remain open, though the company on Monday canceled upcoming Today at Apple sessions in the San Francisco Bay Area and Seattle. Similar action was taken in Italy last week following store closures in China.

In addition to closing retail outlets and offices in heavily impacted areas, Apple over the weekend began to encourage employees based in San Francisco, as well as France, Germany, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Switzerland and the UK, to work from home as an "extra precaution." Last Thursday, the County of Santa Clara's public health department issued new guidance concerning COVID-19 and urged tech giants in Silicon Valley to suspend nonessential employee travel, minimize close employee contact at work, cancel large meetings and conferences, and urge employees to stay home when they are sick.

For its part, Apple early this month restricted travel to South Korea and Italy. The company also pulled out of the now-canceled SXSW festival, where it was slated to premiere three new Apple TV+ originals.

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  • Reply 1 of 19
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    edited March 2020 muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 2 of 19
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member
    Oh no! Apple has become communist, no wait, marxist... err socialist.... unAmerican..... panic!

    Hopefully other big corps will follow suit. A friend of mine lives in Milano and she has women who cleans her apartment. The women came this week in tears because my friend is her only customer who will let her work during this pandemic. Workers like this women who many people depend upon will be hit the hardest during this disaster so please stop complaining your Apple stock took a hit, it will recover while some people will have nothing to feed their families. 
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 3 of 19
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    Why don't you volunteer to visit their homes to make sure they are sick. What no? Then keep your nonsense to yourself. 
    DancingMonkeys
  • Reply 4 of 19
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    spice-boy said:

    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    Why don't you volunteer to visit their homes to make sure they are sick. What no? Then keep your nonsense to yourself. 
    Why would I volunteer? I'm not a health worker and I don't do charity work.

    I don't believe that verifying somebody's claims can be called nonsense. There are always scrupulous people who will take advantage of any situation and with all of the hysteria going around and an easily manipulated and gullible population, I believe that my concerns are valid.
    muthuk_vanalingamjbdragoninTIMidator
  • Reply 5 of 19
    hentaiboyhentaiboy Posts: 1,249member
    Someone should invent a home testing kit, delivered by Amazon drones  B)
    edited March 2020
  • Reply 6 of 19
    sjworldsjworld Posts: 94member
    spice-boy said:

    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    Why don't you volunteer to visit their homes to make sure they are sick. What no? Then keep your nonsense to yourself. 
    It makes complete sense to have their claims verified shortly after using sick time to be off work. You’re ignorant.
    muthuk_vanalingamjbdragon
  • Reply 7 of 19
    MplsPMplsP Posts: 3,714member
    While this is commendable, COVID19 symptoms can range from severe fevers and respiratory failure to those more consistent with a viral upper respiratory infection so they are essentially going to end up paying anyone with a cold to stay home. Not the worst thing, but probably more than they really want to do, too.
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 8 of 19
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,362member
    apple ][ said:
    spice-boy said:

    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    Why don't you volunteer to visit their homes to make sure they are sick. What no? Then keep your nonsense to yourself. 
    Why would I volunteer? I'm not a health worker and I don't do charity work.

    I don't believe that verifying somebody's claims can be called nonsense. There are always scrupulous people who will take advantage of any situation and with all of the hysteria going around and an easily manipulated and gullible population, I believe that my concerns are valid.
    With the havoc that this virus is causing on people's health, lives, livelihoods, cancellation of major events, and the meltdown of the economy on a worldwide scale, this is your chief concern? That someone is gonna fake corona infection so they can skip work?

    Incredible. And at the same time, utterly unsurprising, coming from you. 


    spice-boyDancingMonkeysrandominternetperson
  • Reply 9 of 19
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    spice-boy said:
    Oh no! Apple has become communist, no wait, marxist... err socialist.... unAmerican..... panic!

    Hopefully other big corps will follow suit. A friend of mine lives in Milano and she has women who cleans her apartment. The women came this week in tears because my friend is her only customer who will let her work during this pandemic. Workers like this women who many people depend upon will be hit the hardest during this disaster so please stop complaining your Apple stock took a hit, it will recover while some people will have nothing to feed their families. 
    I applaud Apple's efforts to slow down the spread of the virus.

    The fact that Apple is still happy to pay them proves to me that this company is run by long-term strategists and not right-wing nutjobs (as if that was ever in doubt).

    What Apple has realised is what anyone with common sense can see straight away: people on low incomes will carry on working if they're not getting paid while showing symptoms of the virus. These people work in hospitals, care homes, retail ... all the places where they'll come in contact with people (many of them for whom the virus could be a serious problem).

    Rather than being concerned over short-term profits, Apple has focused on the long-term effect of having sick workers interacting with the general public.
      
    Will my Apple shares take a hit? Yes.
    Am I concerned? Yes. (Well, not really,  no, but I probably should be)
    Am I panicking? No
    Would I rather take a hit than watch more people fall sick and possibly die because Apple is being greedy? Hell yes, I'll take the hit. Nothing to do with politics, more to do with thinking long-term. The more people who survive the virus then the more customers are left for Apple.

    Remember that this is the company that started opening retail stores when everyone else was closing them down. Think different, think long-term.

    I have been following experiments where countries give people a free monthly income, no strings attached. Now imagine that a low income worker receives an extra that will help keep his head above water while he's recovering from a viral infection. He's less likely to try to carry on working and spreading the virus.


    muthuk_vanalingambeowulfschmidtspice-boy
  • Reply 10 of 19
    xbitxbit Posts: 371member
    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    How would you go about conducting these tests and where would you get the testing kits from?
    spice-boyDancingMonkeys
  • Reply 11 of 19
    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    There will certainly be individuals who take advantage of this without ever actually having the virus that causes COVID-19.  But that does nothing to change the fact that Apple is doing a good thing here.
    spice-boyDancingMonkeys
  • Reply 12 of 19
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member
    apple ][ said:
    spice-boy said:

    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    Why don't you volunteer to visit their homes to make sure they are sick. What no? Then keep your nonsense to yourself. 
    Why would I volunteer? I'm not a health worker and I don't do charity work.

    I don't believe that verifying somebody's claims can be called nonsense. There are always scrupulous people who will take advantage of any situation and with all of the hysteria going around and an easily manipulated and gullible population, I believe that my concerns are valid.
    Sure but in your opinion they are always working class people. I also believe you would never do charity work nor give to a charity, ever. 
  • Reply 13 of 19
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    MplsP said:
    While this is commendable, COVID19 symptoms can range from severe fevers and respiratory failure to those more consistent with a viral upper respiratory infection so they are essentially going to end up paying anyone with a cold to stay home. Not the worst thing, but probably more than they really want to do, too.
    An employer that asks sick people to stay home will have more healthy workers. It's how smart businesses work.
    randominternetpersonbeowulfschmidt
  • Reply 14 of 19
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    sjworld said:
    spice-boy said:

    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    Why don't you volunteer to visit their homes to make sure they are sick. What no? Then keep your nonsense to yourself. 
    It makes complete sense to have their claims verified shortly after using sick time to be off work. You’re ignorant.
    Call the kettle black much. People with your opinion are helping the virus spread, bet you're proud of that. 
  • Reply 15 of 19
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,246member
    spice-boy said:

    sjworld said:
    spice-boy said:

    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    Why don't you volunteer to visit their homes to make sure they are sick. What no? Then keep your nonsense to yourself. 
    It makes complete sense to have their claims verified shortly after using sick time to be off work. You’re ignorant.
    Call the kettle black much. People with your opinion are helping the virus spread, bet you're proud of that. 
    So long as YOU  don't have to pick up the costs of paying people to take sick days, that they could be faking, what do you care?  
  • Reply 16 of 19
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    xbit said:
    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    How would you go about conducting these tests and where would you get the testing kits from?
    It looks like you should request a test from your doctor, but I assume only if you are exhibiting symptoms.

    • LabCorp does not currently collect specimens for COVID-19 testing. Patients for whom testing has been ordered should not be sent to a LabCorp location to have a specimen collected.

    LabCorp in the US is now performing tests.

    https://www.labcorp.com/information-labcorp-about-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19
  • Reply 17 of 19
    sjworld said:
    spice-boy said:

    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    Why don't you volunteer to visit their homes to make sure they are sick. What no? Then keep your nonsense to yourself. 
    It makes complete sense to have their claims verified shortly after using sick time to be off work. You’re ignorant.
    Actually, you don’t understand; the testing available is very painful and also dangerous to the health workers carrying out the test.  

    A cotton swab is pushed through the nose to the back of the throat (a long way) to collect the sample. This causes involuntary coughing and spluttering of mucus spray. If not quick, the health workers get a face full. Mask or not withstanding, this is very worrisome. 

    Why do you think the testing is very limited worldwide. Only a very few are given the test if they are almost already confirmed with positive Symptoms. 

    I must also say that I think any work place that doesn’t expect workers to stay home with a cold or flu is just thick. Why pass the bug to all your workers just for a few days of work from one person. 
  • Reply 18 of 19
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    sjworld said:
    spice-boy said:

    apple ][ said:
    Hopefully they confirm that the people actually do have corona virus, otherwise I am sure that there will be sneaky people taking advantage of the situation. Anybody who believes that they have it should be tested for it, and the truth shall be known.
    Why don't you volunteer to visit their homes to make sure they are sick. What no? Then keep your nonsense to yourself. 
    It makes complete sense to have their claims verified shortly after using sick time to be off work. You’re ignorant.
    Actually, you don’t understand; the testing available is very painful and also dangerous to the health workers carrying out the test.  

    A cotton swab is pushed through the nose to the back of the throat (a long way) to collect the sample. This causes involuntary coughing and spluttering of mucus spray. If not quick, the health workers get a face full. Mask or not withstanding, this is very worrisome. 

    Why do you think the testing is very limited worldwide. Only a very few are given the test if they are almost already confirmed with positive Symptoms. 

    I must also say that I think any work place that doesn’t expect workers to stay home with a cold or flu is just thick. Why pass the bug to all your workers just for a few days of work from one person. 
    The testing process (swab through the nose) isn’t painful. I’ve had it done for flu test before. It’s the same thing.
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