Martin Scorsese in talks with Apple TV+ to produce & distribute $200M film

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in General Discussion edited April 2020
Martin Scorsese's "Killers of the Flower Moon" has blown its budget, with its production costs reportedly soaring over $200 million, and he wants Apple to save the project.

Scorsese in 2010 | Image Credit: Siebbi
Scorsese in 2010 | Image Credit: Siebbi


In an effort to save "Killers of the Flower Moon," director Scorsese and his team have begun reaching out to other studios. Those contacted include Apple's Apple TV+, Netflix, Universal Studios, and MGM Holdings, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Paramount Pictures, the studio originally slated to release the film, is allegedly considering backing out of the project.

"Killers of the Flower Moon" is an adaptation of David Grann's 2017 nonfiction bestseller of the same title. The book explores the real-life murder of oil-rich Osage Nation Native Americans in Oklahoma in the 1920s. The film is set to star Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert De Nero.

While it would be easy to blame the ongoing pandemic, this isn't the first time a Scorsese project became too expensive for Paramount to bankroll. Scorsese's "The Irishman" had been moved from Paramount to Netflix after the studio decided the project was too costly to produce. Production costs of "The Irishman" have been estimated to be near $200 million, making it one of the most expensive dramas in recent history.

While Paramount hasn't backed out yet, Scorsese's talks with other studios suggest that it is only a matter of time before the studio leaves the project entirely.

If Apple were to secure the rights to distribute the film, it would be one of Apple TV+ highest-profile projects to date -- and the most expensive. For comparison, Apple's first original film, "The Banker", only had a budget of $11 million.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 10
    I heard Tim Cook told Scorsese that Apple would be interested IF...Oprah Winfrey replaced Robert DiNero.
    razorpit
  • Reply 2 of 10
    "...and he wants Apple to save the project" - relax, Apple has been approached no different than any other studio such as Netflix, Universal and MGM...making it sound as if Scorsese is begging Cook to bail him out.
    netmagelolliver
  • Reply 3 of 10
    seanismorrisseanismorris Posts: 1,624member
    $200 million wasn’t enough to finish a movie that likely lacks expensive cgi?

    Did they buy a casino or something to add realism?

    Sounds like a money pit.

    ......
    edit
    Wait a minute, they haven’t even started filming yet.  How could they have “blown the budget”?
    “Rodrigo Prieto announced that the shooting schedule for Killers of the Flower Moon would begin in March 2020.”
    edited April 2020 razorpitdonjuannetmage
  • Reply 4 of 10
    badmonkbadmonk Posts: 1,295member
    Please don’t do this Tim.  200 million can support 20 other projects by people who are younger, less established and have something new to say.
    minicoffeeflyingdpronn
  • Reply 5 of 10
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    badmonk said:
    Please don’t do this Tim.  200 million can support 20 other projects by people who are younger, less established and have something new to say.
    No thank you. I’m perfectly fine with the older people telling the stories. Many of these new stories are just plain garbage.
    lkruppzeus423Beats
  • Reply 6 of 10
    XedXed Posts: 2,570member
    $200 million wasn’t enough to finish a movie that likely lacks expensive cgi?

    Did they buy a casino or something to add realism?

    Sounds like a money pit.

    ......
    edit
    Wait a minute, they haven’t even started filming yet.  How could they have “blown the budget”?
    “Rodrigo Prieto announced that the shooting schedule for Killers of the Flower Moon would begin in March 2020.”
    There are a lot of costs that go into a film before you even start shooting. Sets, locations which need to be secured and paid for in advance, marketing budgets, special effects teams, writers, securing actors with contracts, Martin's fee, props, equipment, and on and on. He would also have accountants that have run the numbers and found that $200 million isn't enough for the movie he wants to make, hence blowing the budget. These calculations aren't perfect and there are miscalculations and unexpected events, but they usually have a very good idea of what the costs will be before any principle shooting begins.

    If you're still not convinced, check out how many years and how much tech went into the original Avatar and is going into the sequels before they started shooting. James wants to invent new camera and computer systems and Martin wants to build a new city with period accurate details for all elements. That shit costs money.
    pscooter63
  • Reply 7 of 10
    aplnubaplnub Posts: 2,605member
    The Irishman cost ~200M? Geez. That movie was not worth that kind of money.
    lkruppminicoffeenetmage
  • Reply 8 of 10
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 12,886member
    I heard Tim Cook told Scorsese that Apple would be interested IF...Oprah Winfrey replaced Robert DiNero.
    Remember back when people actually said nonsense like this? That all content would be G-rated, that Cook was personally editing scripts with "Don't be so mean!" comments? 

    Yeah. 
    Beatsronnnetmagelolliver
  • Reply 9 of 10
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    I heard Tim Cook told Scorsese that Apple would be interested IF...Oprah Winfrey replaced Robert DiNero.
    Remember back when people actually said nonsense like this? That all content would be G-rated, that Cook was personally editing scripts with "Don't be so mean!" comments? 

    Yeah. 
    Oh yes. And one or two numpties round here believed it. 

    minicoffeeronnnetmage
  • Reply 10 of 10

    I'm all for Scorsese making a new movie. I loved The Irishman. While there is a lot of debate on how factual the movie was (I loved how one critic called De Niro's character the Forrest Gump of gangsters!), the story was very well told and, dodgy effects aside, it was lovely seeing Pacino and De Niro together again.

    Scorsese's recent troubles in getting his movies financed sounds a lot like how Kurosawa struggled to get his films made in the twilight of his career. But just like Kurosawa still managed to make the amazing Kagemusha and the absolutely epic Ran, Scorsese will manage to churn out amazing movies.


    As a side note, for all the talk about how long The Irishman was, it still isn't the longest De Niro movie. That honour belongs to Once Upon A Time in America. The extended director's cut is over 4 hours long and is still as enjoyable a watch as other Leone films.

    edited April 2020
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