Apple's Claris says coronavirus is driving people to FileMaker

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The Apple subsidiary that makes database and app tool FileMaker Pro, says that its quick development systems are in greater demand now because of the COVID-19 outbreak.

Apple subsidiary Claris makes FileMaker Pro, the database and app-creation tool
Apple subsidiary Claris makes FileMaker Pro, the database and app-creation tool


Following Apple's better than expected financial earnings disclosure, the company's subsidiary Claris says that it, too, is seeing growth because of the same coronavirus issues that have adversely affected most technology firms. The company, which has been repositioning itself from a database firm to an app development one, says that this is down to the ability it gives users to create solutions which need "low coding" on top of provided templates.

"There is a massive opportunity for low code to help in the Covid-19 situation," Claris CEO Brad Freitag told CNBC. "[Software] is helping to heal the world, and the low-code category awareness for nonprofits, government, health care and education is up, and it can have an immediate impact, a profound impact."

Without giving any figures, Freitag says that Claris has seen inquiries from potential users, particularly in health care, education and logistics, rise by 50% since the start of March 2020.

"You never wish for a crisis to support your sector," continues Freitag, "but I think [demand] will grow even more than forecast, partly because we will head into a downturn and that will put more cost pressure on organizations solving complex digital problems."

For an example of fast-turnaround app creation using its software, Freitag says the company worked with a European hospital to make COVID-19 patient software in a single day. "They had a decision tree map drawn on paper for triage of Covid patients," he says. "[They would walk] into some central room in ICU and [go] through a decision tree to determine next steps."

It worked well enough at first, but Freitag explains that the sheet of paper had to be replaced by software because the hospital had to keep revising its decision tree. "The challenge with that sheet of paper in treatment is changing in real time," he says.

Claris CEO Brad Freitag
Claris CEO Brad Freitag


"In a strong market, [customers] could solve it with a bigger budget and industrial-strength solutions," he says, "but we are going to see a more pragmatic approach. "In a recession, people have to get creative on value justification. We'll be happy to go up against big vendors in terms of business case justification."

Previously known by the name of its key product, FileMaker Pro, Claris recently rebranded and also launched a rapid app creation service called Connect.
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  • Reply 1 of 23
    macplusplusmacplusplus Posts: 2,091member


    For an example of fast-turnaround app creation using its software, Freitag says the company worked with a European hospital to make COVID-19 patient software in a single day. "They had a decision tree map drawn on paper for triage of Covid patients," he says. "[They would walk] into some central room in ICU and [go] through a decision tree to determine next steps."
    That is true and what makes that true is Filemaker's flexibility which allows you to implement most of the program logic in the structure (schema).

    Or one can write a shitload of Filemaker scripts to get the same result, as many newcomers do to prove how good coders they are.

    Although a true relational database, It represents a significantly different paradigm than SQL based RDBMS. Once you catch the correct way of thinking, there is nothing that prevents you from writing half of the AppStore.
    firelock
  • Reply 2 of 23
    bitsandbytesbitsandbytes Posts: 6unconfirmed, member
    Any app made in a day could have been made in Excel, PowerPoint, or HTML.
    edited May 2020
  • Reply 3 of 23
    jameseb89jameseb89 Posts: 1member
    Oh please. Filemaker is good and all, but if you want a free app that works just as well, check out Symphytum.
  • Reply 4 of 23
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,190member
    jameseb89 said:
    Oh please. Filemaker is good and all, but if you want a free app that works just as well, check out Symphytum.

    Yeah no company is gonna use some no-name piece of freeware. Just ain't gonna happen!
    svanstromrazorpit
  • Reply 5 of 23
    FileMaker has 18 versions under its belt. It's tried and true, stable and polished. I use it all the time to solve issues too complex for Excel. It has run most aspects of our business for over 20 years, and I am quite amazed how well it holds up and adapts to the changing information world. Sure, there are a lot of other options available now. But, if you need something developed quickly, that can be altered quickly, FileMaker is a pretty darn good choice. Looking forward to version 19 landing hopefully in May.
    commentzillaRayz2016watto_cobraadaeon
  • Reply 6 of 23
    Any app made in a day could have been made in Excel, PowerPoint, or HTML.
    Nonsense.
    pscooter63macxpresskiltedgreenrazorpitjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 23
    bitsandbytesbitsandbytes Posts: 6unconfirmed, member
    Any app made in a day could have been made in Excel, PowerPoint, or HTML.
    Nonsense.
    Their app replaced a piece of paper
    edited May 2020 razorpitdarkvader
  • Reply 8 of 23
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Any app made in a day could have been made in Excel, PowerPoint, or HTML.
    Not a developer then. 
    seanjrazorpitjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 23
    svanstromsvanstrom Posts: 702member
    Just waiting for Claris to bring back Emailer.  :)
    watto_cobradarkvader
  • Reply 10 of 23
    kiltedgreenkiltedgreen Posts: 540member
    Any app made in a day could have been made in Excel, PowerPoint, or HTML.
    Nonsense.
    Their app replaced a piece of paper
    THEIR app
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 23
    commentzillacommentzilla Posts: 629member
    Any app made in a day could have been made in Excel, PowerPoint, or HTML.
    Nonsense.
    Their app replaced a piece of paper
    They replaced it with a multi-usr networked relational database application which could be accessed from computers and mobile devices, instead of a piece of paper hanging on the wall of a single room.
    SuperSkunkTXKSEjony0watto_cobraadaeon
  • Reply 12 of 23
    dee_deedee_dee Posts: 78member
    FileMaker has 18 versions under its belt. It's tried and true, stable and polished. I use it all the time to solve issues too complex for Excel. It has run most aspects of our business for over 20 years, and I am quite amazed how well it holds up and adapts to the changing information world. Sure, there are a lot of other options available now. But, if you need something developed quickly, that can be altered quickly, FileMaker is a pretty darn good choice. Looking forward to version 19 landing hopefully in May.
    FileMaker is a pile of cow manure.  Ever since 12, it's performance has plummeted, and has been unable to keep up with web technologies.  It cannot handle anything but the most basic of tasks.
  • Reply 13 of 23
    dee_deedee_dee Posts: 78member


    For an example of fast-turnaround app creation using its software, Freitag says the company worked with a European hospital to make COVID-19 patient software in a single day. "They had a decision tree map drawn on paper for triage of Covid patients," he says. "[They would walk] into some central room in ICU and [go] through a decision tree to determine next steps."
    That is true and what makes that true is Filemaker's flexibility which allows you to implement most of the program logic in the structure (schema).

    Or one can write a shitload of Filemaker scripts to get the same result, as many newcomers do to prove how good coders they are.

    Although a true relational database, It represents a significantly different paradigm than SQL based RDBMS. Once you catch the correct way of thinking, there is nothing that prevents you from writing half of the AppStore.
    FileMaker was fast in the 80's and 90's - not today.  You can develop faster in almost any other technology.  You can only have 1 FileMaker developer working on your solution at a time - with Ruby or PHP, you can host the code on Github and have multiple people working on it at the same time.  FileMaker is outclassed in almost every way.
    edited May 2020 darkvader
  • Reply 14 of 23
    svanstromsvanstrom Posts: 702member
    dee_dee said:


    For an example of fast-turnaround app creation using its software, Freitag says the company worked with a European hospital to make COVID-19 patient software in a single day. "They had a decision tree map drawn on paper for triage of Covid patients," he says. "[They would walk] into some central room in ICU and [go] through a decision tree to determine next steps."
    That is true and what makes that true is Filemaker's flexibility which allows you to implement most of the program logic in the structure (schema).

    Or one can write a shitload of Filemaker scripts to get the same result, as many newcomers do to prove how good coders they are.

    Although a true relational database, It represents a significantly different paradigm than SQL based RDBMS. Once you catch the correct way of thinking, there is nothing that prevents you from writing half of the AppStore.
    FileMaker was fast in the 80's and 90's - not today.  You can develop faster in almost any other technology.  You can only have 1 FileMaker developer working on your solution at a time - with Ruby or PHP, you can host the code on Github and have multiple people working on it at the same time.  FileMaker is outclassed in almost every way.
    Can’t decide if you’re trolling, or just think that that is exactly what collaborative projects are. :neutral: 
    cgWerkswatto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 23
    macplusplusmacplusplus Posts: 2,091member
    dee_dee said:


    For an example of fast-turnaround app creation using its software, Freitag says the company worked with a European hospital to make COVID-19 patient software in a single day. "They had a decision tree map drawn on paper for triage of Covid patients," he says. "[They would walk] into some central room in ICU and [go] through a decision tree to determine next steps."
    That is true and what makes that true is Filemaker's flexibility which allows you to implement most of the program logic in the structure (schema).

    Or one can write a shitload of Filemaker scripts to get the same result, as many newcomers do to prove how good coders they are.

    Although a true relational database, It represents a significantly different paradigm than SQL based RDBMS. Once you catch the correct way of thinking, there is nothing that prevents you from writing half of the AppStore.
    FileMaker was fast in the 80's and 90's - not today.  You can develop faster in almost any other technology.  You can only have 1 FileMaker developer working on your solution at a time - with Ruby or PHP, you can host the code on Github and have multiple people working on it at the same time.  FileMaker is outclassed in almost every way.
    That is exactly the point, you nailed it !!! 

    That only one FileMaker developer is worth your multiple people working on your solution at a time - their Ruby, PHP and Github experience being a must !,,,

    I can only have 1 Filemaker developer because I can... !

    Got it?
    edited May 2020 firelockjony0watto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 23
    dee_dee said:


    For an example of fast-turnaround app creation using its software, Freitag says the company worked with a European hospital to make COVID-19 patient software in a single day. "They had a decision tree map drawn on paper for triage of Covid patients," he says. "[They would walk] into some central room in ICU and [go] through a decision tree to determine next steps."
    That is true and what makes that true is Filemaker's flexibility which allows you to implement most of the program logic in the structure (schema).

    Or one can write a shitload of Filemaker scripts to get the same result, as many newcomers do to prove how good coders they are.

    Although a true relational database, It represents a significantly different paradigm than SQL based RDBMS. Once you catch the correct way of thinking, there is nothing that prevents you from writing half of the AppStore.
    FileMaker was fast in the 80's and 90's - not today.  You can develop faster in almost any other technology.  You can only have 1 FileMaker developer working on your solution at a time - with Ruby or PHP, you can host the code on Github and have multiple people working on it at the same time.  FileMaker is outclassed in almost every way.
    If your FileMaker solution is hosted on FM Server, you most certainly CAN have more than one person developing a file simultaneously.  FileMaker IS fast today.  Development is rapid because the tools and documentation are all there.  We've had administrative assistants who are bored with their jobs absolutely go to town with FileMaker developing all kinds of interfaces to automate their work-- without IT support.  Smart people can do almost anything with a tool like FileMaker, and that's what makes it so appealing.  I have 115 files on my FM Server that do all kinds of work tasks.  We have custom PHP files that interface with many of these solutions.  In fact, we use FileMaker + ODBC on the server to connect TO mySQL sources from other solutions because it's easier to search and manipulate the data in FileMaker than it is to pay a develop to make a custom web view.  Now FileMaker supports standard restful calls, so many things we have already developed can easily be shared with others.  And the security model in FileMaker is quite granular.  We can create accounts for entry level folks that just need to do data entry, or entry via iOS using FileMaker Go.  And we can also empower our power users with more authority to create custom reports/layouts and scripts.  YES you can do many awesome things with Ruby and other technologies that are newer and open source/free.  But if you want rapid apps that are stable, can be deployed in a variety of ways, including iOS and the web, are secure and well supported, FileMaker deserves a look.  It has my respect.
    macplusplusjony0hucom2000cgWerksadaeon
  • Reply 17 of 23
    hucom2000hucom2000 Posts: 124member
    dee_dee said:
    FileMaker has 18 versions under its belt. It's tried and true, stable and polished. I use it all the time to solve issues too complex for Excel. It has run most aspects of our business for over 20 years, and I am quite amazed how well it holds up and adapts to the changing information world. Sure, there are a lot of other options available now. But, if you need something developed quickly, that can be altered quickly, FileMaker is a pretty darn good choice. Looking forward to version 19 landing hopefully in May.
    FileMaker is a pile of cow manure.  Ever since 12, it's performance has plummeted, and has been unable to keep up with web technologies.  It cannot handle anything but the most basic of tasks.
    Clearly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
    cgWerkswatto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 23
    cgWerkscgWerks Posts: 2,752member
    svanstrom said:
    Just waiting for Claris to bring back Emailer.  :)
    Oh man, I LOVED that app! And, I wish Apple hadn't ruined Mail, too, as it was pretty good back in the day. I ended up moving to Postbox because I needed reliability, it isn't as nice to use (just reliable and powerful).

    dee_dee said:
    FileMaker is a pile of cow manure.  Ever since 12, it's performance has plummeted, and has been unable to keep up with web technologies.  It cannot handle anything but the most basic of tasks.
    Looks like others already beat me to it, but unless things are really changed (and in a bad way), you should have told that to the dozen devs we had working on the content management system driving the website of a near Fortune 50 for about a decade (where I worked).

    They eventually did decide they needed to replace it with an 'industry standard' solution... and it took nearly 100 devs like 2 years to roughly replicate what that team of a dozen (at its peak... for the first several years it was just a couple people) had done. It was the difference between happening and not happening, though, as that company would have never invested the resources to make it happen if the FileMaker solution hadn't proven itself.
    watto_cobradarkvader
  • Reply 19 of 23
    cjcoopscjcoops Posts: 101member
    Any app made in a day could have been made in Excel, PowerPoint, or HTML.
    Nonsense.
    Their app replaced a piece of paper
    They replaced it with a multi-usr networked relational database application which could be accessed from computers and mobile devices, instead of a piece of paper hanging on the wall of a single room.
    Or they could have scanned the piece of paper to PDF and put it on a free dropbox account for anyone to access from computers or mobile devices - and call it a multi user networked flow chart.

    Then make an electronic flowchart for free on Word or Powerpoint with no coding at all and put it on a network drive, as the electronic document is easier to modify...

    A one-piece-of-paper decision tree would be simple enough to get going coded in Swift and distributed to ipads and phones then tidied up and given some bangs and whistles as time permits.
    watto_cobradarkvader
  • Reply 20 of 23
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    dee_dee said:


    For an example of fast-turnaround app creation using its software, Freitag says the company worked with a European hospital to make COVID-19 patient software in a single day. "They had a decision tree map drawn on paper for triage of Covid patients," he says. "[They would walk] into some central room in ICU and [go] through a decision tree to determine next steps."
    That is true and what makes that true is Filemaker's flexibility which allows you to implement most of the program logic in the structure (schema).

    Or one can write a shitload of Filemaker scripts to get the same result, as many newcomers do to prove how good coders they are.

    Although a true relational database, It represents a significantly different paradigm than SQL based RDBMS. Once you catch the correct way of thinking, there is nothing that prevents you from writing half of the AppStore.
    FileMaker was fast in the 80's and 90's - not today.  You can develop faster in almost any other technology.  You can only have 1 FileMaker developer working on your solution at a time - with Ruby or PHP, you can host the code on Github and have multiple people working on it at the same time.  FileMaker is outclassed in almost every way.
    Sounds like you made  rookie programmer error number 1: you picked  the tool before understanding what you needed to do with it. 


    watto_cobra
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