Don't all but the most recent CarPlay setups require a wired connection?
If so, how would that work? Would Apple require everybody to upgrade their CarPlay systems? Since most are proprietory to the OEM, that could get expensive.
Portless doesn't mean wireless. There are rumors that iPhone 13 will incorporate a MagSafe Connector.
That would be terrible for a phone that’s not sat on a desk whilst charging. Battery banks would either need to be wireless and then twice the size to counter the wireless inefficiency, or have some kind of case that holds the smart charger in place whilst the phone is charging.
If you were charging handheld in a car the connector would constantly fall off, and even if you were charging whilst holding it the magnet would never be strong enough to stop it getting dislodged regularly.
Apple are the experts when it comes to incorporating magnets into their products. The iPad 'magic' keyboard is a real-world example of how they can deploy extremely thin magnets to clamp a heavy slab of glass and metal in place that even holds up to being shaken.
Applying that magnetic strength to the end of a cable that withstands even firm tugging is a challenge well within Apple's competence and experience.
I’ve never understood the clamor for usb c. The only people that this would benefit, and only marginally, are legit pros or techies, which is still a pretty small fraction, right?
Every normie I talked to during the lightening switch was livid. Complete irrational rage over the adapter.
The only reasonable use case for a magsafe adaptor I can think of (and I’d welcome) is if the case design was to the point that a plug in connector wouldn’t work.
Or maybe Apple has thought of something I haven’t.
If you are already using a MacBook Pro and/or a iPad Pro then the switch to USB-C on an iPhone would be marginally beneficial. You need one less type of charging cable. And USB-C charging cables are very common because USB-C is becoming the standard charging connection in the mobile world outside of Apple. Other than that, a USB-C data cable is quite a bit more capable than a Lightning cable. This added capability is useful for laptops and tablets but the general use case on a phone is less clear.
I think the anger when Apple switched from the 40-pin cable to Lightning is part of the reason that Apple hasn’t moved over to USB-C. There are even more users now and many more Lightning compatible devices than when the 40-pin connector was used. Multiply the anger by a factor of 5-10 if Apple made the switch to USB-C which for most users has zero benefit.
Well clearly the jury is still out on which type of connector to use. I don't ever connect my phone to a cord to charge it so I don't have much of an opinion on that. There was a short snippet toward the end about widgets. Do the iPhones not currently have widgets of any kind? I find that impossible to believe.
Don't all but the most recent CarPlay setups require a wired connection?
If so, how would that work? Would Apple require everybody to upgrade their CarPlay systems? Since most are proprietory to the OEM, that could get expensive.
Don't all but the most recent CarPlay setups require a wired connection?
If so, how would that work? Would Apple require everybody to upgrade their CarPlay systems? Since most are proprietory to the OEM, that could get expensive.
No it’s not. At the moment when I’m travelling if I’m low on power I attach the lightening cable from the battery pack in my bag to the phone whilst using it for directions at the same time as charging. How are you meant to do this without a port? Or when I’m on a flight transferring movie flies from my computer onto the phone?
Exactly. The overwhelming majority of CarPlay units require a wired connection. Wireless charging is slower, less efficient and incompatible with all of the battery packs people already have as well as many cases or the ubiquitous pop-sockets that many people use. As mentioned, it doesn’t allow you to use the phone while charging it (at least not easily.) It’s also much more prone to failure - My son gave me a Belkin charging mat when he got a new one. In the first 2 weeks of using it my phone failed to charge twice because it wasn’t placed perfectly on the mat. My car doesn’t have a good place for a charging mat and I can easily see the phone sliding off when you make a turn.
If they simply switch it to a mag-safe port - what’s the point? I’d rather see USB C. Then it would be compatible with the new ipad charger, the MacBook Pro and many of the new androids phones.
If they simply switch it to a mag-safe port - what’s the point? I’d rather see USB C. Then it would be compatible with the new ipad charger, the MacBook Pro and many of the new androids phones.
Why do people think that the USB-C chargers aren't compatible with Lightning? The iPhone 11 Pro comes with an 18 W USB-C charger with a Lightning cable and even older iPhones without fast charging are compatible. You don't need a different charger, just a different cable.
If they simply switch it to a mag-safe port - what’s the point? I’d rather see USB C. Then it would be compatible with the new ipad charger, the MacBook Pro and many of the new androids phones.
Why do people think that the USB-C chargers aren't compatible with Lightning? The iPhone 11 Pro comes with an 18 W USB-C charger with a Lightning cable and even older iPhones without fast charging are compatible. You don't need a different charger, just a different cable.
The cable is obviously what I meant. It would be very convenient to be able to use the same cable to charge your iPhone or iPad or MBP rather than have to either purchase a separAte charger or a separate cable.
If they simply switch it to a mag-safe port - what’s the point? I’d rather see USB C. Then it would be compatible with the new ipad charger, the MacBook Pro and many of the new androids phones.
Why do people think that the USB-C chargers aren't compatible with Lightning? The iPhone 11 Pro comes with an 18 W USB-C charger with a Lightning cable and even older iPhones without fast charging are compatible. You don't need a different charger, just a different cable.
The cable is obviously what I meant. It would be very convenient to be able to use the same cable to charge your iPhone or iPad or MBP rather than have to either purchase a separAte charger or a separate cable.
How was it obvious? A cable is very lightweight and takes up very little room in a bag. You are going to need a bag or something to carry the charger anyway. I don't understand the complaint.
I’ve never understood the clamor for usb c. The only people that this would benefit, and only marginally, are legit pros or techies, which is still a pretty small fraction, right?
Every normie I talked to during the lightening switch was livid. Complete irrational rage over the adapter.
The only reasonable use case for a magsafe adaptor I can think of (and I’d welcome) is if the case design was to the point that a plug in connector wouldn’t work.
Or maybe Apple has thought of something I haven’t.
If you are already using a MacBook Pro and/or a iPad Pro then the switch to USB-C on an iPhone would be marginally beneficial. You need one less type of charging cable. And USB-C charging cables are very common because USB-C is becoming the standard charging connection in the mobile world outside of Apple. Other than that, a USB-C data cable is quite a bit more capable than a Lightning cable. This added capability is useful for laptops and tablets but the general use case on a phone is less clear.
I think the anger when Apple switched from the 40-pin cable to Lightning is part of the reason that Apple hasn’t moved over to USB-C. There are even more users now and many more Lightning compatible devices than when the 40-pin connector was used. Multiply the anger by a factor of 5-10 if Apple made the switch to USB-C which for most users has zero benefit.
USB-C is confusing as hell. Look at ports on some laptops -- is the USB-C port for charging only or is it Thunderbolt? Or is it USB (or both or ALL)? If USB, is it USB 2, or USB 3? If USB 3, is it 5 or 10Gbps? Or, does it output Displayport also? Who knows. Same for cables...some are for charging only, not data. Others do data and charging, but how many watts is the cable good for? Who knows. Does the cable do displayport for video?
I just grab USB-C cables and say a little prayer that it does what I want it to.
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Applying that magnetic strength to the end of a cable that withstands even firm tugging is a challenge well within Apple's competence and experience.
I think the anger when Apple switched from the 40-pin cable to Lightning is part of the reason that Apple hasn’t moved over to USB-C. There are even more users now and many more Lightning compatible devices than when the 40-pin connector was used. Multiply the anger by a factor of 5-10 if Apple made the switch to USB-C which for most users has zero benefit.
It's more beach than port.
If they simply switch it to a mag-safe port - what’s the point? I’d rather see USB C. Then it would be compatible with the new ipad charger, the MacBook Pro and many of the new androids phones.
Apple could allow you to use an iPhone like Samsung Dex, where you connect a monitor, keyboard and mouse and your iPhone becomes your “computer”.
Except, unlike Dex, this would actually be useful with real productivity Apps and broad developer support.
I just grab USB-C cables and say a little prayer that it does what I want it to.