I’m gonna go out on a limb here but I think this move is a good choice. I truly believe something’s about to be released that is quite astounding. Albeit with some trade offs. But, in the long term I think it’s good. I’m just a Mac user who needs Final Cut, After effects, cinema4d, all of Adobe to work.
Same here. I'm hoping AE and C4D run well under Rosetta for the time being, but that they're not far behind on becoming native. Not sure if you saw the Platforms State of the Union but they showed C4D running a textured view so I'm going to venture a guess that it's working well under Rosetta. FCPX is already native as they demoed.
Exactly. Nah I didn’t get a chance to see that. But that’s great news. It’s only a matter of time that it will be 100% native. I also hope that they fix GPU hardware Acceleration for the future ARM Macs too. I know Adobe supports big Graphic cards from AMD already, but I hope they update hardware acceleration to include Apple’s GPU. Or perhaps even better to just do it in the background auto-mode. Since Apple is gonna move to their own GPU solution in-house anyways. Why not embed hardware acceleration automatically?
I am worried that the transition will curtail or eliminate access to low level system functions. For example, iOS does not allow access to MAC addresses on the local network limiting the usability of network scanners. This is just one example that could limit the effectiveness of many utilities. We all don’t just want to run Word and Photoshop. I also hope companies like VMware see the worth in developing an emulator for Intel processors.
I watched the WWDC Guide to transitioning to Apple Silicon last night and the level of detail that they're getting into pretty much tells me that they've thought all of these things through.
Apple will always make decisions that are ultimately in its own best interest... like discontinuing support for macOS Server (IMAP/dovecot, SMTP/postfix, CardDAV, CalDAV, etc.), which may have been necessitated by the conversion to Apple Silicon and API changes Apple plans for macOS. Never mind that that decision created a major headache and expense for some long-time loyal customers. IMHO macOS developers who are interested in low-level access and cross-platform compatibility should be worried about their future with the Mac.
Considering the rather miniscule user-base for MacOS Server (which I mourn, too!), Apple having to keep qualifying these rather significant Open Source Projects year after year was likely becoming a growing PITA.
So, in 10 seconds, I found this nice guide to what F/OSS Product(s) can replace the "no longer included in the Build" ones:
So, is it a bit of a PITA? Yes, one time. Then it's just keeping some stuff "current". Pros: You can keep more-current on Services that Apple tended to not "update" as frequently. Cons: More work to set up initially.
So, this purports to point to some GUI front-ends that replace the Apple ones.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here but I think this move is a good choice. I truly believe something’s about to be released that is quite astounding. Albeit with some trade offs. But, in the long term I think it’s good. I’m just a Mac user who needs Final Cut, After effects, cinema4d, all of Adobe to work.
Same here. I'm hoping AE and C4D run well under Rosetta for the time being, but that they're not far behind on becoming native. Not sure if you saw the Platforms State of the Union but they showed C4D running a textured view so I'm going to venture a guess that it's working well under Rosetta. FCPX is already native as they demoed.
Exactly. Nah I didn’t get a chance to see that. But that’s great news. It’s only a matter of time that it will be 100% native. I also hope that they fix GPU hardware Acceleration for the future ARM Macs too. I know Adobe supports big Graphic cards from AMD already, but I hope they update hardware acceleration to include Apple’s GPU. Or perhaps even better to just do it in the background auto-mode. Since Apple is gonna move to their own GPU solution in-house anyways. Why not embed hardware acceleration automatically?
I'm not sure I understand. I think what you mean by "fix GPU hardware acceleration for the future ARM Macs too" is that they support Metal, which of course is supported by Apple Silicon. Adobe has been implementing Metal support in AE and Premiere if not others. Cinema 4D S22 supports Metal already. Renderers like Redshift and others are in the process of being ported.
I am worried that the transition will curtail or eliminate access to low level system functions. For example, iOS does not allow access to MAC addresses on the local network limiting the usability of network scanners. This is just one example that could limit the effectiveness of many utilities. We all don’t just want to run Word and Photoshop. I also hope companies like VMware see the worth in developing an emulator for Intel processors.
I watched the WWDC Guide to transitioning to Apple Silicon last night and the level of detail that they're getting into pretty much tells me that they've thought all of these things through.
Apple will always make decisions that are ultimately in its own best interest... like discontinuing support for macOS Server (IMAP/dovecot, SMTP/postfix, CardDAV, CalDAV, etc.), which may have been necessitated by the conversion to Apple Silicon and API changes Apple plans for macOS. Never mind that that decision created a major headache and expense for some long-time loyal customers. IMHO macOS developers who are interested in low-level access and cross-platform compatibility should be worried about their future with the Mac.
Considering the rather miniscule user-base for MacOS Server (which I mourn, too!), Apple having to keep qualifying these rather significant Open Source Projects year after year was likely becoming a growing PITA.
So, in 10 seconds, I found this nice guide to what F/OSS Product(s) can replace the "no longer included in the Build" ones:
So, is it a bit of a PITA? Yes, one time. Then it's just keeping some stuff "current". Pros: You can keep more-current on Services that Apple tended to not "update" as frequently. Cons: More work to set up initially.
So, this purports to point to some GUI front-ends that replace the Apple ones.
(especially read the comments to the above. Lots of very good info!
And in the end, you still get a nice macOS Server!
Not sure how helpful this is but I found this recently as I gotta move a server off Sierra soon and am looking into replacements myself:
There are now complete, working ports of all macOS services in MacPorts, including a much-improved Mail server and Apple’s Calendar and Contacts server. Both the Mail server and the Calendar and Contacts Server also have working APNS if you keep around a method to have a deprecated Server.app version reissue the APNS certificates. The mail server comes with a lot of newer improvements over the old Server.app Mail server that makes it a lot nicer and more secure to use: up-to-date versions, really fast solr mail searching, rspamd, better spam/ham training workflow, DKIM, postfix in chroot jail, and a lot more. To get this, install MacPorts, then run one or more of these commands: sudo port install calendar-contacts-server sudo port install mail-server sudo port install macos-vpn-server sudo port install dns-server
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So, in 10 seconds, I found this nice guide to what F/OSS Product(s) can replace the "no longer included in the Build" ones:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208312
...and a link on the above Page points to this spectacular "Migration Guide":
https://developer.apple.com/support/downloads/macOS-Server-Service-Migration-Guide.pdf
So, is it a bit of a PITA? Yes, one time. Then it's just keeping some stuff "current". Pros: You can keep more-current on Services that Apple tended to not "update" as frequently. Cons: More work to set up initially.
So, this purports to point to some GUI front-ends that replace the Apple ones.
https://blog.macsales.com/43626-macos-server-will-lose-many-services-this-spring-here-are-alternatives/
(especially read the comments to the above. Lots of very good info!
And in the end, you still get a nice macOS Server!