Apple CEO Tim Cook speaks on Hey, parental control apps during antitrust hearing
Apple CEO Tim Cook spoke about some of the company's App Store policies during Wednesday's U.S. House antitrust hearing.
Credit: U.S. House Judiciary Committee
Throughout the hours-long meeting, Cook maintained that the App Store is a significant job creator and that it treats every app submitted to the platform fairly and equally.
"It's an economic miracle that the App Store allows a person in their basement to start a company and serve 170 countries in the world. I believe it's the highest job creator in the last decade," Cook said.
The Apple executive also spoke on several controversies that have surfaced over the past few years, including the removal of parental control apps in 2019. When Rep. Rep. Val Butler Demings inquired about the pulling of those apps from the App Store, Cook said it was due to the potentially dangerous use of mobile device management (MDM) routines and concerns about child privacy and security.
Rep. Lucy McBath also asked Cook about parental control apps, and suggested that they may have been seen as a threat to Apple's own Screen Time feature. Cook refuted that allegation and again reiterated that it was about privacy and security.
McBath also asked Cook about Apple blocking the Random House app from the App Store in 2010, suggesting that it was because of competition with then-recently launched iBooks. Cook said there were "many reasons" why an app may not be approved, such as if the app doesn't work properly.
U.S. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler asked Cook about its 15% to 30% cut of in-app purchases during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Specifically, he said that developers told the committee that Apple was calling them up to "extract" that commission when they switched business models during the pandemic.
"A pandemic is a tragedy, and it's hurting Americans and people all around the world. We would never take advantage. I believe the cases you are talking about are cases where something has moved to a digital service, which technically does need to go through our commission model," Cook said. "But in both of the cases I am aware of, we are working with the developers."
The chairman offered the Hey app as an example, though Cook didn't expand on the issue much except to say that the dustup with the Basecamp-created email client was now resolved.
Credit: U.S. House Judiciary Committee
Throughout the hours-long meeting, Cook maintained that the App Store is a significant job creator and that it treats every app submitted to the platform fairly and equally.
"It's an economic miracle that the App Store allows a person in their basement to start a company and serve 170 countries in the world. I believe it's the highest job creator in the last decade," Cook said.
The Apple executive also spoke on several controversies that have surfaced over the past few years, including the removal of parental control apps in 2019. When Rep. Rep. Val Butler Demings inquired about the pulling of those apps from the App Store, Cook said it was due to the potentially dangerous use of mobile device management (MDM) routines and concerns about child privacy and security.
Rep. Lucy McBath also asked Cook about parental control apps, and suggested that they may have been seen as a threat to Apple's own Screen Time feature. Cook refuted that allegation and again reiterated that it was about privacy and security.
McBath also asked Cook about Apple blocking the Random House app from the App Store in 2010, suggesting that it was because of competition with then-recently launched iBooks. Cook said there were "many reasons" why an app may not be approved, such as if the app doesn't work properly.
U.S. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler asked Cook about its 15% to 30% cut of in-app purchases during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Specifically, he said that developers told the committee that Apple was calling them up to "extract" that commission when they switched business models during the pandemic.
"A pandemic is a tragedy, and it's hurting Americans and people all around the world. We would never take advantage. I believe the cases you are talking about are cases where something has moved to a digital service, which technically does need to go through our commission model," Cook said. "But in both of the cases I am aware of, we are working with the developers."
The chairman offered the Hey app as an example, though Cook didn't expand on the issue much except to say that the dustup with the Basecamp-created email client was now resolved.
Comments
Regarding parental controls, something that I'm interested in because I have young children, Cook's standard response about 3rd party apps not in compliance seemed to fall flat, especially in the light of internal emails from Schiller. The 3rd party MDM-based parental controls seemed to me from the getgo to be out of compliance with Apple's TOS (I recall being offered a development role on one of them and saying that outright to them).
The problem is Apple took too long to react to these 3rd party parental controls, and then backed down with seemingly no required changes to the apps. Plus Apple refuses to make its own Screen Time app API accessible to 3rd parties. The result currently is a bit of a mess, with the appearance that Apple was dragged kicking into enabling parental screen control after a couple of large investors wrote them, and then doesn't really doesn't have any interest to take it further.
App A has some bad features - poor privacy and security - but it performs a useful service that doesn't exist otherwise - parental controls - so we will ignore the bad features in service of the greater good.
App B was made by us and contains the useful service - parental controls - while eliminating the bad features - privacy and security.
While App B does not exist then allowing App A to exist is the lesser of two evils. But when App B exists why put up with App A anymore? While it may have been to reduce competition IMHO one doesn't have to be an Apple fan to come to the conclusion that it was a legitimate decision based on Apple's standards. If it is Google - who for years promoted lack of security and privacy as a feature before finally relenting - stating "yeah we killed App A right after App B came out in the interests of our customers' privacy and security" then hammer them. But Apple legitimately has "plausible deniability" here.
Now the Random House app on the other hand ...