TikTok 'shocked' by US executive order and impending ban

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    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    RichieCA said:
    I am shocked too... this is unprecedented. There is no reason or justification other than hey, these apps are from a Chinese company.

    Not from the government of China, not from a company owned by the government of China, just from a private business which, by the way, even offered their source code to be audited.

    Expect China to reciprocate with the banning of legitimate USA apps just for being from the USA.

    Not good. Not wise. Not just.





    Chinese companies are owned by the Chinese government.

    You either have no idea or you are not very adept to checking facts that contradict your thoughts, right?

    Maybe both.

    Even Sequoia Capital is an investor in the company.  Oh, maybe Sequoia is also owned by the Chinese government.

    Investor ≠ Owner

    kmarei said:
    avon b7 said:
    Tariffs flopped so this is the substitute for "getting tough" with China apparently.
    In what way did they “flop” exactly? China is clearly getting quite desperate with their increased propaganda, spying and attempts to influence the election.
    Realistically speaking Trump claimed trade wars were good and easy to win. You would have thought at this point it would be over if that were true. Clearly it isn't. 

    The tool to win the war was tariffs and most industry watchers have made it clear that China hasn't really been paying them. US citizens have borne the brunt. 

    China, in tit for tat measures, manoeuvred to lower tariffs on countries who could supply its needs, plunging industries like US agriculture to the brink of economic collapse.

    In an attempt to get something, anything, to talk about, Trump lauded the phase 1 deal which didn't even include any obligations on China's part to fulfil commitments to anything included in it. Now, Trump is basically saying that deal is not worth the paper it's written on. 

    From the get go China made it clear that they were in this for the long haul and would suffer but, at the same time, resist and wait things out.

    As elections approach and Trump has little cause to celebrate anything, time is not on his side and we are seeing actions like those against Huawei and Byte Dance and Tencent look evermore desperate. All the while, China is basically doing nothing.

    As he said the trade war was easy to win and he very much hasn't won anything (he has actually caused great harm to US interests), saying he flopped makes a lot of sense. 

    China should have pulled into line long ago under such pressure but it's clear they haven't. 
    China always has a huge advantage over the US
    the Chinese political system will always outlast any US president
    US presidents come and go
    But the communist party remains, sure faces change, but the system remains in power
    if you don’t believe me, ask Fidel Castro :)
    tons of sanctions, by numerous US presidents
    and he still remained in power .

    my conspiracy theory is zuckerberg  might have something to do with this
    i let your negative inflammatory statements stay on FB
    and you take out tiktok, which is the biggest threat to instagram

    U.S. revolution 1776
    Communist Party of China 1949

    The Chinese communist system will last as long as their citizens remain unarmed. That’s all that keeps that form of government going. Don’t pretend it’s some grand program that their people love and want.

    sdw2001 said:
    I am shocked too... this is unprecedented. There is no reason or justification other than hey, these apps are from a Chinese company.

    Not from the government of China, not from a company owned by the government of China, just from a private business which, by the way, even offered their source code to be audited.

    Expect China to reciprocate with the banning of legitimate USA apps just for being from the USA.

    Not good. Not wise. Not just. 
    This is so wrong I don’t even know where to begin. I guess I’ll start with the fact that there is virtually no difference between the communist party of china and “private“ companies in China.
    Accurate. I’ve been there numerous times and have seen for myself the types of business arrangements they have. Mind you, I am very sympathetic to the average person in China. Their system crushes dissent, so the people engage in business practices which would shock outsiders so they can just barely make a living.
    As someone who (use to) travel there for business, you nailed it. 
    edited August 2020
    watto_cobragatorguy
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