Tim Cook's leadership style has 'reshaped how Apple staff work and think'

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  • Reply 61 of 66
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member


    tmay said:
    dewme said:
    You lost me when you mentioned Tesla. 

    but there are a few who are upping their game very quickly, like Tesla
    Tesla is a perfect example of a first mover advantage, driven by a charismatic leader, who was not the founder, finding itself with a business model that fails in the marketplace.

    Tesla has relatively poor quality control, abysmal service, is not a leader in autonomous driving despite the marketing, has relied on billions in government incentives to survive, has routinely ignored the industry's manufacturing prowess, and is now facing an extinction event as the major automakers release a plethora of competitors. 

    But investors low him, hence the valuation.

    As for Christensen, you might follow Horace Dediu at Asymco.com, reading some of his past posts on Apple, as he actually studied under Christensen. Horace is now mostly involved in micromobility.


    Your knowledge of Tesla is abysmal.

    For what it’s worth, I own neither the stock nor the car (but I am in line for the Cybertruck, with the option to wait until Dec 2021 to decide).
    If you get a Cybertruck, I want a full review. :)
    If they update the interior of the Model S before then and it has a stated range of 500 miles that CT promises (I'll even settle for 450), I'll be getting that instead, as my next vehicle.
    I follow Tesla even though I don’t own one (yet) and I’m looking forward to what they call “Battery Day”, which is what they've named their media and investor presentation discussing improvements to their tech.

    Say what you will about Musk or Tesla and their issues, but you can’t help but root for them to succeed at something that has historically been littered with failures.
    edited August 2020
    anantksundaramwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 62 of 66


    tmay said:
    dewme said:
    You lost me when you mentioned Tesla. 

    but there are a few who are upping their game very quickly, like Tesla
    Tesla is a perfect example of a first mover advantage, driven by a charismatic leader, who was not the founder, finding itself with a business model that fails in the marketplace.

    Tesla has relatively poor quality control, abysmal service, is not a leader in autonomous driving despite the marketing, has relied on billions in government incentives to survive, has routinely ignored the industry's manufacturing prowess, and is now facing an extinction event as the major automakers release a plethora of competitors. 

    But investors low him, hence the valuation.

    As for Christensen, you might follow Horace Dediu at Asymco.com, reading some of his past posts on Apple, as he actually studied under Christensen. Horace is now mostly involved in micromobility.


    Your knowledge of Tesla is abysmal.

    For what it’s worth, I own neither the stock nor the car (but I am in line for the Cybertruck, with the option to wait until Dec 2021 to decide).
    If you get a Cybertruck, I want a full review. :)
    If they update the interior of the Model S before then and it has a stated range of 500 miles that CT promises (I'll even settle for 450), I'll be getting that instead, as my next vehicle.
    I follow Tesla even though I don’t own one (yet) and I’m looking forward to what they call “Battery Day”, which is what they've named their media and investor presentation discussing improvements to their tech.

    Say what you will about Musk or Tesla and their issues, but you can’t help but root for them to succeed at something that has historically been littered with failures.
    I think Battery Day is going to be huge. Could be the equivalent of January 9, 2007 all over again for another entrenched, fat/dumb/happy industry.
    SpamSandwichwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 63 of 66
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member


    tmay said:
    dewme said:
    You lost me when you mentioned Tesla. 

    but there are a few who are upping their game very quickly, like Tesla
    Tesla is a perfect example of a first mover advantage, driven by a charismatic leader, who was not the founder, finding itself with a business model that fails in the marketplace.

    Tesla has relatively poor quality control, abysmal service, is not a leader in autonomous driving despite the marketing, has relied on billions in government incentives to survive, has routinely ignored the industry's manufacturing prowess, and is now facing an extinction event as the major automakers release a plethora of competitors. 

    But investors low him, hence the valuation.

    As for Christensen, you might follow Horace Dediu at Asymco.com, reading some of his past posts on Apple, as he actually studied under Christensen. Horace is now mostly involved in micromobility.


    Your knowledge of Tesla is abysmal.

    For what it’s worth, I own neither the stock nor the car (but I am in line for the Cybertruck, with the option to wait until Dec 2021 to decide).
    If you get a Cybertruck, I want a full review. :)
    If they update the interior of the Model S before then and it has a stated range of 500 miles that CT promises (I'll even settle for 450), I'll be getting that instead, as my next vehicle.
    I follow Tesla even though I don’t own one (yet) and I’m looking forward to what they call “Battery Day”, which is what they've named their media and investor presentation discussing improvements to their tech.

    Say what you will about Musk or Tesla and their issues, but you can’t help but root for them to succeed at something that has historically been littered with failures.
    I think Battery Day is going to be huge. Could be the equivalent of January 9, 2007 all over again for another entrenched, fat/dumb/happy industry.
    Tesla is partnering with CATL, most likely, same as many EU auto builders, Tesla China will eventually just fall under state control,

    BFD,

    Toyota and Panasonic are developing SS batteries, 

    https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129055_toyota-solid-state-battery-tech-on-schedule-for-2025-production-executive-says
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 64 of 66
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,780member
    You guys understand that this is a passive-aggressive hit piece by notoriously wrong (and Apple-hating) analyst Tripp Mickle, right?


    watto_cobrafastasleep
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  • Reply 65 of 66
    GG1gg1 Posts: 483member


    tmay said:
    dewme said:
    You lost me when you mentioned Tesla. 

    but there are a few who are upping their game very quickly, like Tesla
    Tesla is a perfect example of a first mover advantage, driven by a charismatic leader, who was not the founder, finding itself with a business model that fails in the marketplace.

    Tesla has relatively poor quality control, abysmal service, is not a leader in autonomous driving despite the marketing, has relied on billions in government incentives to survive, has routinely ignored the industry's manufacturing prowess, and is now facing an extinction event as the major automakers release a plethora of competitors. 

    But investors low him, hence the valuation.

    As for Christensen, you might follow Horace Dediu at Asymco.com, reading some of his past posts on Apple, as he actually studied under Christensen. Horace is now mostly involved in micromobility.


    Your knowledge of Tesla is abysmal.

    For what it’s worth, I own neither the stock nor the car (but I am in line for the Cybertruck, with the option to wait until Dec 2021 to decide).
    If you get a Cybertruck, I want a full review. :)
    If they update the interior of the Model S before then and it has a stated range of 500 miles that CT promises (I'll even settle for 450), I'll be getting that instead, as my next vehicle.
    I follow Tesla even though I don’t own one (yet) and I’m looking forward to what they call “Battery Day”, which is what they've named their media and investor presentation discussing improvements to their tech.

    Say what you will about Musk or Tesla and their issues, but you can’t help but root for them to succeed at something that has historically been littered with failures.
    I think Battery Day is going to be huge. Could be the equivalent of January 9, 2007 all over again for another entrenched, fat/dumb/happy industry.
    If you're considering the Model S, you should also consider Lucid Motors. They are a quiet company (compared to Musk or Nikola or other EV companies), and they have been supplying battery packs for Formula E (electric racing series) for a few seasons now. That implies a well-engineered battery pack, the single most important part of an EV. Lucid will reveal their first car next month (with 500+ mile range!) with deliveries in 2021.

    tmaywatto_cobra
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