Facebook threatens to block news stories in Australia if draft regulation passes

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Facebook on Monday said it will bar Australian users from sharing news stories on its social media platforms if legislation requiring the firm to pay publishers for content passes.

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At the end of July, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) released a draft proposal that "would allow news media businesses to bargain individually or collectively with Google and Facebook over payment for the inclusion of news on their services." In response, Facebook Australia Managing Director, Will Easton, on Monday said the company will "reluctantly stop" allowing publishers and users to share local and international news articles on Facebook and Instagram should the law take effect.

The draft proposal includes "minimum standards" that require Facebook and Google to provide advance notice of changes to algorithmic ranking and presentation of news, label original news content, and provide information about data collection operations. Both companies are pushing back against the effort, reports CNET.

"Australia is drafting a new regulation that misunderstands the dynamics of the internet and will do damage to the very news organisations the government is trying to protect," Easton writes.

He goes on to say that the ACCC "ignored important facts" on the matter, including claimed investments amounting to millions of dollars in Australian news companies. The commission further misunderstands the dynamic between news organizations and social media platforms, Easton says.

"Over the first five months of 2020 we sent 2.3 billion clicks from Facebook's News Feed back to Australian news websites at no charge -- additional traffic worth an estimated $200 million to Australian publishers," the post reads.

Publishers in the region are said to largely support the ACCC proposal, especially as profits dry up due to the coronavirus and long-running trends away from print and toward online consumption. Digital media hubs like those run by Facebook and Google gobble up a significant share of advertising money.

Facebook is framing the issue not as a financial problem, however.

"News represents a fraction of what people see in their News Feed and is not a significant source of revenue for us," Easton writes. "Still, we recognize that news provides a vitally important role in society and democracy, which is why we offer free tools and training to help media companies reach an audience many times larger than they have previously."

Apple, too, is dealing with problems on its own Apple News+ platform. In June, The New York Times said it would abandon the service due to lack of engagement, while publishers more recently took umbrage with a new feature in iOS 14 and macOS Big Sur that automatically redirects certain links to Apple News+ instead of a publisher's website.

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  • Reply 1 of 18
    Xedxed Posts: 3,271member
    Do it!     

    Dogpersonelijahgwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 2 of 18
    Cry me a river!
    Zuck is already rich enough (on paper) to buy many countries in the world yet still he wants more!
    Every day that passes and the harm that FB and the rest do to humanity goes unpunished. Their interface designs are by their own admission highly addictive which in my eyes, makes them no different from any other drug pusher out there.
    Come in Facebook, your time is up. I hope that soon, you will start to pay for the damage that you have done to a whole generation.

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  • Reply 3 of 18
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,846member
    Yay...
    Cry me a river!
    Zuck is already rich enough (on paper) to buy many countries in the world yet still he wants more!...
    and Elon Musk has today surpassed Zuckerberg for net worth apparently - life is tough!

     https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-31/elon-musk-is-now-richer-than-mark-zuckerberg-on-tesla-surge
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  • Reply 4 of 18
    facebook is the bully.  They need to lose big time.

    Another point-of-view:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-01/facebook-threatens-to-ban-australians-from-sharing-news-content/12616216
    BeatsDogpersonronndysamoriaOfermagman1979lolliverspock1234elijahgwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 5 of 18
    Rayz2016rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Seems like the Zuck doesn’t like governments telling him what he should charge, but is happy to support governments telling Apple what it should charge.  

    Put on your big boy trousers and suck it up, Zuck. 
    equality72521macseekerpjwilkinaderutterBeatsDogpersonronndysamoriaOfermuthuk_vanalingam
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  • Reply 6 of 18
    People get their news from Facebook??
    montrosemacscy_starkmanlolliverspock1234watto_cobraDetnator
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  • Reply 7 of 18
    It’s not surprising to see the hypocrisy: Zuck doesn’t care about content makers, only about ensuring that his company gets a free ride always. 
    Dogpersonronndysamoriamontrosemacsmagman1979lolliverspock1234watto_cobra
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  • Reply 8 of 18
    Zuck doesn’t know how to negotiate. You should never tell your opponent how you will react if he does “X”. You should say nothing and then when it happens you should react or overreact in a way he didn’t expect. I can think of at least three surprising ways Zuck could respond here once the new proposed rule is enforced. One is to replace all user links to Australian news sites to links to non-Australian news sites that carry a similar story. This will make all future regulators think long and hard about regulating the internet. P.S. If it sounds like I’m a Facebook supporter, I’m not. I can’t be a supporter of Facebook because I believe in morality.
    Ofermuthuk_vanalingamwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 9 of 18
    Zuck doesn’t know how to negotiate. You should never tell your opponent how you will react if he does “X”. You should say nothing and then when it happens you should react or overreact in a way he didn’t expect. I can think of at least three surprising ways Zuck could respond here once the new proposed rule is enforced. One is to replace all user links to Australian news sites to links to non-Australian news sites that carry a similar story. This will make all future regulators think long and hard about regulating the internet. P.S. If it sounds like I’m a Facebook supporter, I’m not. I can’t be a supporter of Facebook because I believe in morality.
    He's obviously been reading his copy of 'The Art of the Deal' signed by his pal Donald J Trump. (sic)
    DogpersonEsquireCatsronnmontrosemacsOfermuthuk_vanalingamelijahgwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 10 of 18
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,297member
    This is exactly what I predicted would happen. Rather than paying FB, and I expect Google will follow very quickly, will just block. This is what you get when legislators try to legislate something they don’t understand. 
    beowulfschmidtentropyswatto_cobra
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  • Reply 11 of 18
    Yeah, I don't think I would trust Facebook's monetary appraisal of how much the clicks are worth. That's probably one of the reasons the publishers support the legislation. If there were really some big financial windfall involved from Facebook news sharing, then the publishers wouldn't want to risk it. 
    EsquireCatsronndysamoriaspock1234watto_cobra
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  • Reply 12 of 18
    tundraboytundraboy Posts: 1,933member
    People get their news from Facebook??
    Facebook is the main source of news for a large chunk of people.  A big part of the reason civilization is in such a mess these days.
    dysamoriamontrosemacsOferRayz2016entropyscy_starkmanlolliverspock1234watto_cobra
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  • Reply 13 of 18
    New agencies: We want you to pay us to share our content.
    Facebook: No.  We already direct clicks to your website; we see no reason to pay you any more for content you offer for free on your website.
    News agencies: Waaahhhhh!  Big mean facebook won't give us what we want!  We want government to make them pay us.
    Facebook. 🤷‍♂️ OK, we just won't share your clickbait stories then. Have a nice day.

    And for those who'll assume I'm a Facebook supporter from the above, check your premises.  Criticizing fascist government overreach does not imply approval of those being overreached.
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  • Reply 14 of 18
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    All I see is yet more disingenuous misdirection bullshit from Facebook. What they don’t want is any responsibility or accountability, and they don’t want to have to pay anyone for anything. This is tantrum-throwing, typical of dominant entities when finally facing some kind of consequences for their longstanding opportunism & abuses.
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  • Reply 15 of 18
    Spain tried this with Google a few years ago. Google stopped linking to Spanish news sites.  Traffic to the sites went down, the news sites cried uncle, and the regulations were rescinded. 

    I expect the same thing will happen here. 
    DAalsethmuthuk_vanalingam
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  • Reply 16 of 18
    entropysentropys Posts: 4,480member
    New agencies: We want you to pay us to share our content.
    Facebook: No.  We already direct clicks to your website; we see no reason to pay you any more for content you offer for free on your website.
    News agencies: Waaahhhhh!  Big mean facebook won't give us what we want!  We want government to make them pay us.
    Facebook. 🤷‍♂️ OK, we just won't share your clickbait stories then. Have a nice day.

    And for those who'll assume I'm a Facebook supporter from the above, check your premises.  Criticizing fascist government overreach does not imply approval of those being overreached.
    Exactly what’s going on, ameliorated slightly by the fact it is Facebook.
    That isn’t the worst about what is going on in the land of Oz at the moment. In western Australia they have just passed legislation specifically to remove the property rights of this mining megalomaniac (which means everyone just goes “good” and they got away with it) that explicitly empowers government to take this dude’s property without just compensation. Nobody ever thinks of precedent it seems. After all, it’s for our own good.
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  • Reply 17 of 18
    entropys said:
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    Exactly what’s going on, ameliorated slightly by the fact it is Facebook.
    That isn’t the worst about what is going on in the land of Oz at the moment. In western Australia they have just passed legislation specifically to remove the property rights of this mining megalomaniac (which means everyone just goes “good” and they got away with it) that explicitly empowers government to take this dude’s property without just compensation. Nobody ever thinks of precedent it seems. After all, it’s for our own good.
    Linking Facebook's latest childish retort to a dispute that has its origins in an 18 year old agreement between Mr Palmer and the Western Australian state over mining tenements in the Pilbara region ... far out :D :D :D
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  • Reply 18 of 18
    Just do it. It will be the one good thing Facebook ever did in their existence. 
    elijahg
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