Yeah, an affordable watch is coming. Like every year - the Apple Watch 4 or 5 gets discounted. Why on earth should apple develop a watch for the sole reason to sell it cheaper? And what should this be? Made from plastic? Low res screen? Not waterproof?
Makes no sense to me.
For people who can't afford the higher end, for kids, for ecosystem expansion, for market share.
You must be new to Apple. Making inexpensive products for people who can't afford normal, in the name of market share, is not how Apple rolls. They'd rather sell fewer and maintain their normal profit margin than sell more at less.
Also confused about your desires for the ATV. It already uses "Apple Silicon", which is what today's chips are as well. You say you want a Mac chip in it, but you have no data on what that means or why you should have it over a normal A-series SoC.
Same goes for the HomePod. Apple developing a "cheaper" version of the HomePod is complete nonsense in my view. Like years back, when every "analyst" was predicting (or demanding) a "cheaper" iPhone as the only way for Apple to survive. The iPhone SE is nothing but a iPhone 7 with some modifications internally. The difference of the 5c was the plastic back cover.
Apple never competes on price by developing specifically "cheap" hardware. What it does is giving legacy models a discount when new models arrive. This has been successful in the past, so where's the pain for them to change that strategy?
If Apple could actually advance Siri into what Amazon has that would be great for the HomePod. Also the HomePod is lacking any connectivity ports. I understand they want to chain you to their Apple Music but that’s tunnel vision thinking.
Incorrect. Being a wireless AirPlay device in no way chains you to Apple Music. Before the HP was ever a thing there was a niche market for other wireless AirPlay speakers, I spent hundreds of dollars on one. With an AirPlay speaker you just beam music out to it as an audio endpoint. That's what HP is.
Besides, I thought it was already announced that there is a Siri-controlled API coming for third-party audio apps?
I'm also under the impression that Alexa and OK Google are just as crap, but in differing ways, as these voice systems are all still in their infancy.
Yeah, an affordable watch is coming. Like every year - the Apple Watch 4 or 5 gets discounted. Why on earth should apple develop a watch for the sole reason to sell it cheaper? And what should this be? Made from plastic? Low res screen? Not waterproof?
Makes no sense to me.
For people who can't afford the higher end, for kids, for ecosystem expansion, for market share.
Well there is an entry price for everything. And people who can't afford the entry price of a certain thing, usually pick something that's either in their reach or they don't bother. Life without Apple Watch is possible.
And the marketshare is not something you should aim for with ever cheaper products. It comes as a side effect of building ever better ones.
I think that's more like how Apple thinks.
I never bought the whole "Apple doesn't care about market share" thing. If Apple were offered a billion more users you really think they'd say "Thanks but not our thing"? What's the reason for iPhone SE?
Im interested in this “cheaper Apple Watch”. I’d love a plastic version for my kids that skipped on some of the latest tech but still offered GPS, messaging, & fitness tracking. My son is a little too young (5th grade) for a phone but I’d love to be able to communicate with him via his Apple Watch. Offer it for $199 & I’m in!
Apple Watch SE with iPhone 5c/iPod colors would be nice. Keep track of your kids and their health, add walkie-talkie and it's a great deal!
Same goes for the HomePod. Apple developing a "cheaper" version of the HomePod is complete nonsense in my view. Like years back, when every "analyst" was predicting (or demanding) a "cheaper" iPhone as the only way for Apple to survive. The iPhone SE is nothing but a iPhone 7 with some modifications internally. The difference of the 5c was the plastic back cover.
Apple never competes on price by developing specifically "cheap" hardware. What it does is giving legacy models a discount when new models arrive. This has been successful in the past, so where's the pain for them to change that strategy?
If Apple could actually advance Siri into what Amazon has that would be great for the HomePod. Also the HomePod is lacking any connectivity ports. I understand they want to chain you to their Apple Music but that’s tunnel vision thinking.
Incorrect. Being a wireless AirPlay device in no way chains you to Apple Music. Before the HP was ever a thing there was a niche market for other wireless AirPlay speakers, I spent hundreds of dollars on one. With an AirPlay speaker you just beam music out to it as an audio endpoint. That's what HP is.
Besides, I thought it was already announced that there is a Siri-controlled API coming for third-party audio apps?
I'm also under the impression that Alexa and OK Google are just as crap, but in differing ways, as these voice systems are all still in their infancy.
You missed my point, yes you can stream audio music via Apple Music or third party apps but you can’t plug anything physically into the speaker because it has no auxiliary input. Also HomePod also does not work as a standard Bluetooth speaker with non-Apple devices using a Bluetooth connection. It could be so much more than what it is.
My doctor told me last month that I should stop measuring my health data daily (weekly is ok) because a recent study said that doing that can actually be a detriment to one’s health. I presume it creates anxiety and stress. I wonder if all health device manufacturers, like Apple, are aware of this.
Manually entering things like weight etc every day is unnecessary and things like that is probably what they meant. Passively recording activity and things like heart rate absolutely should be captured regularly, or the data is meaningless.
Same goes for the HomePod. Apple developing a "cheaper" version of the HomePod is complete nonsense in my view. Like years back, when every "analyst" was predicting (or demanding) a "cheaper" iPhone as the only way for Apple to survive. The iPhone SE is nothing but a iPhone 7 with some modifications internally. The difference of the 5c was the plastic back cover.
Apple never competes on price by developing specifically "cheap" hardware. What it does is giving legacy models a discount when new models arrive. This has been successful in the past, so where's the pain for them to change that strategy?
If Apple could actually advance Siri into what Amazon has that would be great for the HomePod. Also the HomePod is lacking any connectivity ports. I understand they want to chain you to their Apple Music but that’s tunnel vision thinking.
Tunnel vision thinking is what tells you you can only use it with Apple Music. You can AirPlay any audio source to it.
Same goes for the HomePod. Apple developing a "cheaper" version of the HomePod is complete nonsense in my view. Like years back, when every "analyst" was predicting (or demanding) a "cheaper" iPhone as the only way for Apple to survive. The iPhone SE is nothing but a iPhone 7 with some modifications internally. The difference of the 5c was the plastic back cover.
Apple never competes on price by developing specifically "cheap" hardware. What it does is giving legacy models a discount when new models arrive. This has been successful in the past, so where's the pain for them to change that strategy?
I mostly agree with your point, but I definitely see a benefit for HomePod having a smaller, more affordable version. I have the current model in my kitchen/living room. I would never consider buying one to put in a bathroom, or a kids bedroom, because the technology in it is overkill for those areas. If they made a smaller version for a cheaper price I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
Same. The only places where I could see using a HomePod myself is in the kitchen and bathroom, both of which currently have a bluetooth-based speaker I use primarily to listen to TuneIn Radio, and neither place I'd want to spend that much or take up that much room. I'd definitely consider a smaller/cheaper model though for sure.
If this Apple Watch SE is true with the Apple Watch 6 insides for $200 I’d buy it.
Join the club, I was all ready to pull the switch on a new Series 6. But if I can get the Series 6 internals for a lot less with Cellular then that’s what I’d go for.
If the rumor is true, it's not likely to have the internals of the 6 nor cellular connectivity. To do so would be to cannibalize their own more expensive devices. This lower-cost version would almost certainly be targeting Fitbit and would do serious damage to their product line by providing more capability without costing much more, and by not requiring a monthly charge for a premium service just to be able to get at your own data. This watch wouldn't need the latest and greatest nor cellular connectivity to take on any of Fitbit's lineup. It would need fitness features, existing notifications and App Store capabilities, water resistance, and not much more.
Same goes for the HomePod. Apple developing a "cheaper" version of the HomePod is complete nonsense in my view. Like years back, when every "analyst" was predicting (or demanding) a "cheaper" iPhone as the only way for Apple to survive. The iPhone SE is nothing but a iPhone 7 with some modifications internally. The difference of the 5c was the plastic back cover.
Apple never competes on price by developing specifically "cheap" hardware. What it does is giving legacy models a discount when new models arrive. This has been successful in the past, so where's the pain for them to change that strategy?
If Apple could actually advance Siri into what Amazon has that would be great for the HomePod. Also the HomePod is lacking any connectivity ports. I understand they want to chain you to their Apple Music but that’s tunnel vision thinking.
Tunnel vision thinking is what tells you you can only use it with Apple Music. You can AirPlay any audio source to it.
Being able to only play digital music through it is tunnel vision. Give the damn thing an auxiliary port.
Same goes for the HomePod. Apple developing a "cheaper" version of the HomePod is complete nonsense in my view. Like years back, when every "analyst" was predicting (or demanding) a "cheaper" iPhone as the only way for Apple to survive. The iPhone SE is nothing but a iPhone 7 with some modifications internally. The difference of the 5c was the plastic back cover.
Apple never competes on price by developing specifically "cheap" hardware. What it does is giving legacy models a discount when new models arrive. This has been successful in the past, so where's the pain for them to change that strategy?
If Apple could actually advance Siri into what Amazon has that would be great for the HomePod. Also the HomePod is lacking any connectivity ports. I understand they want to chain you to their Apple Music but that’s tunnel vision thinking.
Tunnel vision thinking is what tells you you can only use it with Apple Music. You can AirPlay any audio source to it.
Being able to only play digital music through it is tunnel vision. Give the damn thing an auxiliary port.
You realize pumping an analogue signal into an aux jack is going to still result in digital audio coming out of the HomePod, right?
Yeah, an affordable watch is coming. Like every year - the Apple Watch 4 or 5 gets discounted. Why on earth should apple develop a watch for the sole reason to sell it cheaper? And what should this be? Made from plastic? Low res screen? Not waterproof?
Makes no sense to me.
For people who can't afford the higher end, for kids, for ecosystem expansion, for market share.
Well there is an entry price for everything. And people who can't afford the entry price of a certain thing, usually pick something that's either in their reach or they don't bother. Life without Apple Watch is possible.
And the marketshare is not something you should aim for with ever cheaper products. It comes as a side effect of building ever better ones.
I think that's more like how Apple thinks.
I never bought the whole "Apple doesn't care about market share" thing. If Apple were offered a billion more users you really think they'd say "Thanks but not our thing"? What's the reason for iPhone SE?
You are correct, but what most of us mean is that Apple doesn't worship at the altar of market share at the expense of profitability. If they were not making what they feel to be acceptable margin on the SE, they wouldn't make it. No loss leaders in their product mix.
Yeah, an affordable watch is coming. Like every year - the Apple Watch 4 or 5 gets discounted. Why on earth should apple develop a watch for the sole reason to sell it cheaper? And what should this be? Made from plastic? Low res screen? Not waterproof?
Makes no sense to me.
For people who can't afford the higher end, for kids, for ecosystem expansion, for market share.
Well there is an entry price for everything. And people who can't afford the entry price of a certain thing, usually pick something that's either in their reach or they don't bother. Life without Apple Watch is possible.
And the marketshare is not something you should aim for with ever cheaper products. It comes as a side effect of building ever better ones.
I think that's more like how Apple thinks.
I never bought the whole "Apple doesn't care about market share" thing. If Apple were offered a billion more users you really think they'd say "Thanks but not our thing"? What's the reason for iPhone SE?
I think they care about market share, but they aren't willing to substantially compromise their quality or their profit margins in order to get it. If those billion extra users came at the expense of shipping something that they considered crappy then they wouldn't do it.
Same goes for the HomePod. Apple developing a "cheaper" version of the HomePod is complete nonsense in my view. Like years back, when every "analyst" was predicting (or demanding) a "cheaper" iPhone as the only way for Apple to survive. The iPhone SE is nothing but a iPhone 7 with some modifications internally. The difference of the 5c was the plastic back cover.
Apple never competes on price by developing specifically "cheap" hardware. What it does is giving legacy models a discount when new models arrive. This has been successful in the past, so where's the pain for them to change that strategy?
If Apple could actually advance Siri into what Amazon has that would be great for the HomePod. Also the HomePod is lacking any connectivity ports. I understand they want to chain you to their Apple Music but that’s tunnel vision thinking.
Tunnel vision thinking is what tells you you can only use it with Apple Music. You can AirPlay any audio source to it.
Being able to only play digital music through it is tunnel vision. Give the damn thing an auxiliary port.
What could you possibly want to play through an aux port these days? Do you have an old Walkman kicking around somewhere?
Same goes for the HomePod. Apple developing a "cheaper" version of the HomePod is complete nonsense in my view. Like years back, when every "analyst" was predicting (or demanding) a "cheaper" iPhone as the only way for Apple to survive. The iPhone SE is nothing but a iPhone 7 with some modifications internally. The difference of the 5c was the plastic back cover.
Apple never competes on price by developing specifically "cheap" hardware. What it does is giving legacy models a discount when new models arrive. This has been successful in the past, so where's the pain for them to change that strategy?
If Apple could actually advance Siri into what Amazon has that would be great for the HomePod. Also the HomePod is lacking any connectivity ports. I understand they want to chain you to their Apple Music but that’s tunnel vision thinking.
Tunnel vision thinking is what tells you you can only use it with Apple Music. You can AirPlay any audio source to it.
Being able to only play digital music through it is tunnel vision. Give the damn thing an auxiliary port.
What could you possibly want to play through an aux port these days? Do you have an old Walkman kicking around somewhere?
Probably one of those vinylphiles who talks endlessly about "warmth" while wanting to pipe that through a software-controlled DAC.
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You must be new to Apple. Making inexpensive products for people who can't afford normal, in the name of market share, is not how Apple rolls. They'd rather sell fewer and maintain their normal profit margin than sell more at less.
Also confused about your desires for the ATV. It already uses "Apple Silicon", which is what today's chips are as well. You say you want a Mac chip in it, but you have no data on what that means or why you should have it over a normal A-series SoC.
Incorrect. Being a wireless AirPlay device in no way chains you to Apple Music. Before the HP was ever a thing there was a niche market for other wireless AirPlay speakers, I spent hundreds of dollars on one. With an AirPlay speaker you just beam music out to it as an audio endpoint. That's what HP is.
Besides, I thought it was already announced that there is a Siri-controlled API coming for third-party audio apps?
I'm also under the impression that Alexa and OK Google are just as crap, but in differing ways, as these voice systems are all still in their infancy.
I never bought the whole "Apple doesn't care about market share" thing. If Apple were offered a billion more users you really think they'd say "Thanks but not our thing"? What's the reason for iPhone SE?
Apple Watch SE with iPhone 5c/iPod colors would be nice. Keep track of your kids and their health, add walkie-talkie and it's a great deal!
Tunnel vision thinking is what tells you you can only use it with Apple Music. You can AirPlay any audio source to it.
Same. The only places where I could see using a HomePod myself is in the kitchen and bathroom, both of which currently have a bluetooth-based speaker I use primarily to listen to TuneIn Radio, and neither place I'd want to spend that much or take up that much room. I'd definitely consider a smaller/cheaper model though for sure.