Apple refreshes and expands commitment to human rights

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  • Reply 61 of 74
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    razorpit said:
    You and your world order can “establish” whatever you want, (I want free ice cream on Tuesday’s) doesn’t mean anyone else will listen. We can’t even follow our country’s own Bill of Rights. Good luck getting some Central American/Middle Eastern/East Asian to follow our western “established rights”. The world is a tough, mean, place.

    I don't understand what you're arguing, no one is claiming the world is perfect. But human rights do exist, most countries have signed up to all or part of the UDHR, and it is the common understanding and measurement for human rights. Some countries have not signed up to them, or have alternate versions, and for sure some terrible places routinely violate them. But that doesn't mean they don't exist, any more than saying laws against murder don't exist. Apple are redeclaring their commitment to those human rights ideals.

    If you can get enough people to sign up to free ice cream on Tuesdays then it may well become a law. I'm arguing that actual documented and declared rights for which there are actual laws and treaties to enforce exist, not sarcastic flights of fancy.
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  • Reply 62 of 74
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    razorpit said:
    LOL, these aren’t race riots. These are marxist revolutions. Race riots don’t have spoiled little white kids attacking mom and pop business with their skateboards and Captain America garbage can lids as shields. Marxist riots do. Most of these riots have ONE race in them, and it isn’t the one you think it is.
    When black people riot in America, black people get shot. When white people riot in America, black people get shot.
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  • Reply 63 of 74
    GeorgeBMacgeorgebmac Posts: 11,421member
    crowley said:
    When black people riot in America, black people get shot. When white people riot in America, black people get shot.

    True, and the protests / riots are happening because, too often, they get themselves shot for the crime of "Driving while black" -- while the police officer enjoys his immunity from the law he is supposed to be enforcing and suffers no consequences beyond a few weeks of "desk duty".   In the worst case, he moves to a neighboring precinct.

    We should have listened to Kaepernik.
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    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,731member

    True, and the protests / riots are happening because, too often, they get themselves shot for the crime of "Driving while black" -- while the police officer enjoys his immunity from the law he is supposed to be enforcing and suffers no consequences beyond a few weeks of "desk duty".   In the worst case, he moves to a neighboring precinct.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2020/05/29/charging-cops-with-crimes-is-still-difficult-prosecutors/
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  • Reply 65 of 74
    gatorguy said:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2020/05/29/charging-cops-with-crimes-is-still-difficult-prosecutors/

    Cops are protected by multiple layers:   First it is often their word against the victim -- and other cops will typically stand up for each other.   Then they are typically investigated by other cops.   Plus their union usually has rules to protect them such as purging complaints after 6 months.  Then, prosecutors have to rely on cops for their cases and their livelihoods so they're hesitant to prosecute.   But, even if they do, they have to overcome the hurdle of the special protections the cop receives under qualified immunity.
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  • Reply 66 of 74
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member

    You mean the accusations?   Thanks, but I'll wait for facts.
    Meanwhile, why are you ignoring the human rights violations that go on right here in this country?   You know, like the right to life.
    .... Oh I get it.   Trump is telling you:  "Hey, look over there!"
     :D The party of abortion and the party that runs the cities with the highest black on black violence preaching about human rights and the right to life. George you are hilarious.
    crowley said:
    When black people riot in America, black people get shot. When white people riot in America, black people get shot.
    Other than during these Marxist protests, when do white people riot?

    True, and the protests / riots are happening because, too often, they get themselves shot for the crime of "Driving while black" -- while the police officer enjoys his immunity from the law he is supposed to be enforcing and suffers no consequences beyond a few weeks of "desk duty".   In the worst case, he moves to a neighboring precinct.

    We should have listened to Kaepernik.
    Not even remotely true. Driving while black, please. How about driving while black, committing a traffic violation, and then arguing with the police when simply asked for license and registration? Never hear about the hundreds of black people pulled over daily where they just abide by the officer’s orders do you? No, you hear about the one with a lethal level of fentanyl in his system hourly though. Or the one grabbing for his knife.

    We are listening to Kaepernik and look where that’s gotten us. We now think it’s acceptable to grab a drink from someone’s table, drink it, and then smash the glass on the ground.
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  • Reply 67 of 74
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Don't even know where to begin addressing the level of delusion here, I guess it's probably best to not bother.  I thought you were just being spiky about human rights around the world, but turns out you've overdosed on the crazy.  Thanks for being honest, my ignore list appreciates it.
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  • Reply 68 of 74
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    crowley said:
    Don't even know where to begin addressing the level of delusion here, I guess it's probably best to not bother.  I thought you were just being spiky about human rights around the world, but turns out you've overdosed on the crazy.  Thanks for being honest, my ignore list appreciates it.
    Nope just being realistic. Took the rose colored glasses off a long time ago. Check back when you do the same.
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  • Reply 69 of 74
    razorpit said:
     :D The party of abortion and the party that runs the cities with the highest black on black violence preaching about human rights and the right to life. George you are hilarious.
    Other than during these Marxist protests, when do white people riot?
    Not even remotely true. Driving while black, please. How about driving while black, committing a traffic violation, and then arguing with the police when simply asked for license and registration? Never hear about the hundreds of black people pulled over daily where they just abide by the officer’s orders do you? No, you hear about the one with a lethal level of fentanyl in his system hourly though. Or the one grabbing for his knife.

    We are listening to Kaepernik and look where that’s gotten us. We now think it’s acceptable to grab a drink from someone’s table, drink it, and then smash the glass on the ground.

    Sorry, but all those innocent, unarmed black people murdered through systemic racism by our militarized police don't think its so funny.   Neither do real Americans.

    And, yes, no matter how delusional you are, black people are targeted by police, pulled from their cars for the simple crime of driving while black and then murdered.

    Try to pay attention!  
    ....  Oh that's right!   The Orange Fascist has you all distracted over China!   And he now has you all distracted blaming black people for objecting to being murdered in cold blood.  But don't feel too foolish;  the fools of 1930's Germany did the same.  You aren't the first to fall for fascism.

    But, you should be ashamed uttering such nonsense that "we listened to Karpaernik"   We didn't listen to him.   We BLACK balled him --a  superbowl quarterback!

    Ok, I can hear it now!
    "BUT, BUT, BUT... WHATABOUT CHINA!'
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  • Reply 70 of 74
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    George your mind is polluted. Spend some time on any one of these resources to free your mind. That’s what progressives Such as yourself are in pursuit of right? New and insightful information?

    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/
    https://www.noagendashow.net/
    https://www.oann.com/
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  • Reply 71 of 74
    razorpit said:
    George your mind is polluted. Spend some time on any one of these resources to free your mind. That’s what progressives Such as yourself are in pursuit of right? New and insightful information?

    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/
    https://www.noagendashow.net/
    https://www.oann.com/

    If you mean my mind is polluted with truth and reality -- and low tolerance of racists and fascists, then you would probably be correct.   Otherwise, wrong -- as usual.
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  • Reply 72 of 74
    razorpit said:
    George your mind is polluted. Spend some time on any one of these resources to free your mind. That’s what progressives Such as yourself are in pursuit of right? New and insightful information?

    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/
    https://www.noagendashow.net/
    https://www.oann.com/
    LOL. OANN is to Fox News what ISIS is to Al-Qaeda on the truth scale of things.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-america-news-network/

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  • Reply 73 of 74
    razorpit said:
    George your mind is polluted. Spend some time on any one of these resources to free your mind. That’s what progressives Such as yourself are in pursuit of right? New and insightful information?

    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/
    https://www.noagendashow.net/
    https://www.oann.com/
    Another good one:  https://www.scottadamssays.com/coffee-with-scott-adams-podcast/

    Scott Adams is a person who considers himself “Left of Bernie Sanders” but he has some of the most insightful commentary on both Left and Right today because his real focus is on the subject of “persuasion”.
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