I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Hmmmm ... Seemed pretty clear to me. It didn't require a college degree to understand. I think a GED diploma would give someone the necessary comprehension skills.
I have a university degree in Computer Science and couldn't understand it at all, so your statement about comprehension skills is incorrect. I have no idea how to sell this service to friends and family even after reading the comments on this thread. People keep talking on this thread about a "Peloton", I presume that's an exercise bike. I first heard about that a few days ago but have absolutely no idea what it offers. Is that a US-only product? And why would anyone pay a monthly fee to ride a bicycle, even if it included music? I think Apple needs to better inform its customers about what this service does.
It's a fitness service that guides you through exercise with professional coaches and links your Apple Watch for accurate measures of pulse etc.
Some people appreciate the motivation and others see it as having a personal coach on their time.
A "Peloton" is a brand of exercise equipment that also includes a similar service.
Thanks for being the first person here to treat me with respect. Hmm. So we'd be paying about $10/month for the ability to talk/text to another human about how we're doing? I trust you can see why I don't grasp why this is a service of any value.
I'd be happy to be a personal coach to others and to text messages to people like "You're doing great," and "keep it up." I could probably even set up macros to send such messages while I'm watching TV instead of working. Free money for doing nothing.
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Hmmmm ... Seemed pretty clear to me. It didn't require a college degree to understand. I think a GED diploma would give someone the necessary comprehension skills.
I have a university degree in Computer Science and couldn't understand it at all, so your statement about comprehension skills is incorrect. I have no idea how to sell this service to friends and family even after reading the comments on this thread. People keep talking on this thread about a "Peloton", I presume that's an exercise bike. I first heard about that a few days ago but have absolutely no idea what it offers. Is that a US-only product? And why would anyone pay a monthly fee to ride a bicycle, even if it included music? I think Apple needs to better inform its customers about what this service does.
It's a fitness service that guides you through exercise with professional coaches and links your Apple Watch for accurate measures of pulse etc.
Some people appreciate the motivation and others see it as having a personal coach on their time.
A "Peloton" is a brand of exercise equipment that also includes a similar service.
Thanks for being the first person here to treat me with respect. Hmm. So we'd be paying about $10/month for the ability to talk/text to another human about how we're doing? I trust you can see why I don't grasp why this is a service of any value.
I'd be happy to be a personal coach to others and to text messages to people like "You're doing great," and "keep it up." I could probably even set up macros to send such messages while I'm watching TV instead of working. Free money for doing nothing.
So you whine about not being respected and immediately turn around and dump all over fitness professionals when you don't seem to have the first clue as to what a trainer does. Classy.
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Apple just put millions of gyms and yoga studios out of business permanently.
I'm guessing the impact on gyms and yoga studios will be close to zero. A basic gym membership doesn't include any sort of fitness programming and yoga studios are more of a lifestyle sale than simply a yoga class. If anything this has the potential to dive memberships as people really don't have treadmills, spin bikes and weights sitting around their place. It is a great complement to gym membership since a lot of folks really don't know much about structuring a workout to meet their goals. It will likely impact other services that provide fitness programming.
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Hmmmm ... Seemed pretty clear to me. It didn't require a college degree to understand. I think a GED diploma would give someone the necessary comprehension skills.
I have a university degree in Computer Science and couldn't understand it at all, so your statement about comprehension skills is incorrect. I have no idea how to sell this service to friends and family even after reading the comments on this thread. People keep talking on this thread about a "Peloton", I presume that's an exercise bike. I first heard about that a few days ago but have absolutely no idea what it offers. Is that a US-only product? And why would anyone pay a monthly fee to ride a bicycle, even if it included music? I think Apple needs to better inform its customers about what this service does.
It's a fitness service that guides you through exercise with professional coaches and links your Apple Watch for accurate measures of pulse etc.
Some people appreciate the motivation and others see it as having a personal coach on their time.
A "Peloton" is a brand of exercise equipment that also includes a similar service.
Thanks for being the first person here to treat me with respect. Hmm. So we'd be paying about $10/month for the ability to talk/text to another human about how we're doing? I trust you can see why I don't grasp why this is a service of any value.
I'd be happy to be a personal coach to others and to text messages to people like "You're doing great," and "keep it up." I could probably even set up macros to send such messages while I'm watching TV instead of working. Free money for doing nothing.
So you whine about not being respected and immediately turn around and dump all over fitness professionals when you don't seem to have the first clue as to what a trainer does. Classy.
I guess I should have said I was being sarcastic, sorry for misleading you. What I was really saying is I really don't understand what these personal trainers are doing to help users. I was making my point using sarcasm. Sarcasm is humour and should not be taken literally. I mistakenly thought that everyone would understand my sarcasm. Your point would be perfectly valid if I was being serious.
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Apple just put millions of gyms and yoga studios out of business permanently.
I'm guessing the impact on gyms and yoga studios will be close to zero. A basic gym membership doesn't include any sort of fitness programming and yoga studios are more of a lifestyle sale than simply a yoga class. If anything this has the potential to dive memberships as people really don't have treadmills, spin bikes and weights sitting around their place. It is a great complement to gym membership since a lot of folks really don't know much about structuring a workout to meet their goals. It will likely impact other services that provide fitness programming.
I agree that the service supplements gyms and yoga studios in the same way that other home workout services (and Youtube videos) do. For these other home workouts this is serious competition, though, because of the integration with the Apple Watch.
For me, Fitness+ was the most exciting reveal of today's event. I wish it were available in Japan...
One thing I was left wondering is if there is any feedback to the metrics on your Apple Watch by the trainers. It looks like they are simply pre-recorded videos that we won't be able to interact with. It will be interesting when they are replaced by virtual avatars you can interact with in the future.
The biggest question I have is that if me and my partner want to workout to the same video at the same time, is that possible? Would it show both of our info on screen? I hope so.
That's a really good question! I would assume that any display will only display the information of the user who is logged in for privacy reasons. Of course, this wouldn't keep you from doing the exercise together, anyway.
It would be exciting if Apple allowed some 'multi-player' and perhaps online-community features that allow friends to workout together even during social distancing.
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Apple just put millions of gyms and yoga studios out of business permanently.
They’re pretty much empty at the moment anyway.
I teach group exercise at a gym. Most of the classes are being held outside. When I teach there is usually 1 indoor class happening (limited to 13 people) and 2 outdoor classes (limited to 24 each). Judging by the number of cars in the parking lot not very many people are going inside for much beyond the class that’s available. The owners give me very limited insight into what is happening but I know they had a large number of people cancel or freeze their memberships almost immediately after they reopened in July. So, yeah, pretty much empty is likely an accurate assessment.
Fitness+ seems to be launching at the right time. I can’t think of a better time to be starting a service for people who want to exercise at home. I found it interesting that Apple mentioned you can use their workouts while at the gym, though I wonder how many will be paying for a gym membership and Fitness+.
Lululemon just paid $500 million to acquire the wall-mounted fitness training hardware/service called Mirror. This just destroyed that business model.
No it did not sparkles. Where’s your proof and who says this Fitness thing from is any good or better than all the others out there?
Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but is a certain model of the Apple TV required for this to work? I have an old one; I'm not sure if it's the 2nd or 3rd gen.
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Hmmmm ... Seemed pretty clear to me. It didn't require a college degree to understand. I think a GED diploma would give someone the necessary comprehension skills.
I have a university degree in Computer Science and couldn't understand it at all, so your statement about comprehension skills is incorrect. I have no idea how to sell this service to friends and family even after reading the comments on this thread. People keep talking on this thread about a "Peloton", I presume that's an exercise bike. I first heard about that a few days ago but have absolutely no idea what it offers. Is that a US-only product? And why would anyone pay a monthly fee to ride a bicycle, even if it included music? I think Apple needs to better inform its customers about what this service does.
It's a fitness service that guides you through exercise with professional coaches and links your Apple Watch for accurate measures of pulse etc.
Some people appreciate the motivation and others see it as having a personal coach on their time.
A "Peloton" is a brand of exercise equipment that also includes a similar service.
Thanks for being the first person here to treat me with respect. Hmm. So we'd be paying about $10/month for the ability to talk/text to another human about how we're doing? I trust you can see why I don't grasp why this is a service of any value.
I'd be happy to be a personal coach to others and to text messages to people like "You're doing great," and "keep it up." I could probably even set up macros to send such messages while I'm watching TV instead of working. Free money for doing nothing.
So you whine about not being respected and immediately turn around and dump all over fitness professionals when you don't seem to have the first clue as to what a trainer does. Classy.
I guess I should have said I was being sarcastic, sorry for misleading you. What I was really saying is I really don't understand what these personal trainers are doing to help users. I was making my point using sarcasm. Sarcasm is humour and should not be taken literally. I mistakenly thought that everyone would understand my sarcasm. Your point would be perfectly valid if I was being serious.
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Apple just put millions of gyms and yoga studios out of business permanently.
I'm guessing the impact on gyms and yoga studios will be close to zero. A basic gym membership doesn't include any sort of fitness programming and yoga studios are more of a lifestyle sale than simply a yoga class. If anything this has the potential to dive memberships as people really don't have treadmills, spin bikes and weights sitting around their place. It is a great complement to gym membership since a lot of folks really don't know much about structuring a workout to meet their goals. It will likely impact other services that provide fitness programming.
I agree that the service supplements gyms and yoga studios in the same way that other home workout services (and Youtube videos) do. For these other home workouts this is serious competition, though, because of the integration with the Apple Watch.
For me, Fitness+ was the most exciting reveal of today's event. I wish it were available in Japan...
One thing I was left wondering is if there is any feedback to the metrics on your Apple Watch by the trainers. It looks like they are simply pre-recorded videos that we won't be able to interact with. It will be interesting when they are replaced by virtual avatars you can interact with in the future.
As I watched this segment of the announcement, I started to imagine how Apple Glasses could possibly enhance an exercise routine.
One could conceivably virtually participate in a class filled in AR space with avatars of friends and hear everyone in spatial audio, simulating a full studio.
Why is this service limited to only certain regions?
The music, I'd guess. Music and entertainment companies have all sorts of regional restrictions for reasons, I guess.
What about language barriers? Maybe they're still translating for other regions?
Yeah, I'm rather annoyed at this ... plenty of us in Europe would love it, even if only English is available. But I suspect Apple doesn't like the optics of selling this is countries and not supporting the local language. Hopefully they can localise the content quickly, and offer this more widely, but given the track record with Apple News, I'm not holding my breath (different issues though, for Fitness+ Apple is in control of the content).
Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. I think basically all Apple Music songs are available across Europe anyway, so that can't be a hinder. And I read somewhere a few years back (sorry, cant remember where) that more than half of Apple device owners in Europe sets the OS language to English — and UK is not half of Europe. I've been thinking the exact same thing about the HomePod for years now. Let's hope this is not another case of that.
What do you think would resonate better with the consumers: "Fitness+ …now available also in Sweden", or "Fitness+ …now available also in Swedish"?
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Apple just put millions of gyms and yoga studios out of business permanently.
I'm guessing the impact on gyms and yoga studios will be close to zero. A basic gym membership doesn't include any sort of fitness programming and yoga studios are more of a lifestyle sale than simply a yoga class. If anything this has the potential to dive memberships as people really don't have treadmills, spin bikes and weights sitting around their place. It is a great complement to gym membership since a lot of folks really don't know much about structuring a workout to meet their goals. It will likely impact other services that provide fitness programming.
I agree that the service supplements gyms and yoga studios in the same way that other home workout services (and Youtube videos) do. For these other home workouts this is serious competition, though, because of the integration with the Apple Watch.
For me, Fitness+ was the most exciting reveal of today's event. I wish it were available in Japan...
One thing I was left wondering is if there is any feedback to the metrics on your Apple Watch by the trainers. It looks like they are simply pre-recorded videos that we won't be able to interact with. It will be interesting when they are replaced by virtual avatars you can interact with in the future.
As I watched this segment of the announcement, I started to imagine how Apple Glasses could possibly enhance an exercise routine.
One could conceivably virtually participate in a class filled in AR space with avatars of friends and hear everyone in spatial audio, simulating a full studio.
Exactly. The power of coaching and being part of a group is much stronger and motivating than some people might believe ( @22july2013 ). For ex, I consider myself quite self-disciplined when it comes to exercising. Still, I almost never do a complete crossfit program on my own, even if all the equipment is available there right next to me.
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Apple just put millions of gyms and yoga studios out of business permanently.
I'm guessing the impact on gyms and yoga studios will be close to zero. A basic gym membership doesn't include any sort of fitness programming and yoga studios are more of a lifestyle sale than simply a yoga class. If anything this has the potential to dive memberships as people really don't have treadmills, spin bikes and weights sitting around their place. It is a great complement to gym membership since a lot of folks really don't know much about structuring a workout to meet their goals. It will likely impact other services that provide fitness programming.
I agree that the service supplements gyms and yoga studios in the same way that other home workout services (and Youtube videos) do. For these other home workouts this is serious competition, though, because of the integration with the Apple Watch.
For me, Fitness+ was the most exciting reveal of today's event. I wish it were available in Japan...
One thing I was left wondering is if there is any feedback to the metrics on your Apple Watch by the trainers. It looks like they are simply pre-recorded videos that we won't be able to interact with. It will be interesting when they are replaced by virtual avatars you can interact with in the future.
Or even cooler… imagine if the exercise program automatically adjusted itself to my current performance, my normal performance, my personal goals, my pulse, my heart rate …and dynamically custom designing the music style, tempo, type of exercise, pep talking, lights, ambient settings etc. Now, that would be serious coaching …and quite a unique selling point.
I guess I should have said I was being sarcastic, sorry for misleading you. What I was really saying is I really don't understand what these personal trainers are doing to help users. I was making my point using sarcasm. Sarcasm is humour and should not be taken literally. I mistakenly thought that everyone would understand my sarcasm. Your point would be perfectly valid if I was being serious.
Cute spin.
I'll grant you this: as a result of your post I will try to stop using sarcasm in the future. You have changed my approach to writing posts. Thanks for making me a better person.
I watched the explanation of this service and I still have no idea what it is.
Apple just put millions of gyms and yoga studios out of business permanently.
They’re pretty much empty at the moment anyway.
I teach group exercise at a gym. Most of the classes are being held outside. When I teach there is usually 1 indoor class happening (limited to 13 people) and 2 outdoor classes (limited to 24 each). Judging by the number of cars in the parking lot not very many people are going inside for much beyond the class that’s available. The owners give me very limited insight into what is happening but I know they had a large number of people cancel or freeze their memberships almost immediately after they reopened in July. So, yeah, pretty much empty is likely an accurate assessment.
Fitness+ seems to be launching at the right time. I can’t think of a better time to be starting a service for people who want to exercise at home. I found it interesting that Apple mentioned you can use their workouts while at the gym, though I wonder how many will be paying for a gym membership and Fitness+.
Lululemon just paid $500 million to acquire the wall-mounted fitness training hardware/service called Mirror. This just destroyed that business model.
No it did not sparkles. Where’s your proof and who says this Fitness thing from is any good or better than all the others out there?
I don't think it destroyed the mirror business model, but it's probably safe to say it's not as attractive as it was a week ago. And Mirror will likely be one of the most effected. They only have the mirror and the monthly is $39. That's pretty steep. Peleton at least has the connected bikes/treadmills. But it won't be long before apple adds connectivity for those also.
I literally had a mirror in my cart, but won't be buying it now. For me, I'll go with a new wall mount tv and fitness+. Yes, i could have done that already with ifit/peleton/etc. but the mirror seemed like a nice premium piece. But at $39/month it's not with it to me when fitness+ will be essentially free in my bundle
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I'd be happy to be a personal coach to others and to text messages to people like "You're doing great," and "keep it up." I could probably even set up macros to send such messages while I'm watching TV instead of working. Free money for doing nothing.
For me, Fitness+ was the most exciting reveal of today's event. I wish it were available in Japan...
One thing I was left wondering is if there is any feedback to the metrics on your Apple Watch by the trainers. It looks like they are simply pre-recorded videos that we won't be able to interact with. It will be interesting when they are replaced by virtual avatars you can interact with in the future.
It would be exciting if Apple allowed some 'multi-player' and perhaps online-community features that allow friends to workout together even during social distancing.
What do you think would resonate better with the consumers: "Fitness+ …now available also in Sweden",
or "Fitness+ …now available also in Swedish"?
Or even cooler… imagine if the exercise program automatically adjusted itself to my current performance, my normal performance, my personal goals, my pulse, my heart rate …and dynamically custom designing the music style, tempo, type of exercise, pep talking, lights, ambient settings etc. Now, that would be serious coaching …and quite a unique selling point.
I literally had a mirror in my cart, but won't be buying it now. For me, I'll go with a new wall mount tv and fitness+. Yes, i could have done that already with ifit/peleton/etc. but the mirror seemed like a nice premium piece. But at $39/month it's not with it to me when fitness+ will be essentially free in my bundle