Widgets are not stealing your data or logging your keystrokes in iOS 14, because they can'...

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Despite what FaceBook posters are claiming, no widget in iOS 14 is secretly capturing your keystrokes, because it is impossible for them to do so.

Widgets can seriously damage the amount of space you have left on your screen for apps.
Widgets can seriously damage the amount of space you have left on your screen for apps.


If you blinked in confusion at the claim widgets were this great security risk, we're with you. If you looked at your iPhone and wondered what a calendar widget could possibly do with the information that you tapped on it once, we're still right there with you.

The idea, though, is that having installed a rogue widget, it doesn't just notice when you tap on it. Instead -- and trust us, we cannot underline enough that this is such nonsense that we want to use a stronger word -- it enables a keylogger.

That is, after you've installed this, anything you type is recorded and sent to a nefarious developer. All your passwords, all your account details, every one of those Messages -- who knows, maybe even including emoji -- now in the hands of a bad actor.

If there's a department in Apple collating reactions to all of the new features in iOS 14, they've just opened a document they've called "Give us strength." They might also be scribbling into it that you just can't please some people.

Apple was doomed for not having Android-style widgets, now it's destroying our lives and wrecking our children's future. Or something.

Why this cannot happen

We don't come to knock widgets, they are a great and useful addition to iOS that we are all having a very good time playing with. But really the only thing that is different between a widget and the app icons we've had since 2007 is the size, and what they use that size for.

Aside from Apple's own Clock app, which has always displayed the current time, apps show an icon which you tap on to open the app. Widgets show very big icons which you tap on to open the app.

No widget does anything else but show big icons and open an app when you tap on them. And that's because no widget can do anything else.

The big icons are great because instead of just being an app developer's logo, they can be actually useful. Widget icons can display text, images, news headlines, anything.

It is precisely this which makes them useful -- and it is precisely that which makes them actually slightly less useful than you'd hope. It would be brilliant to be able to tap on, say, a Notes or a Drafts 5 widget and start writing something immediately.

You can't.

A widget may display lots of different information, but it is only displaying it, and it is only waiting for you to tap to open its app. Every widget might as well be an app's icon, because there is nothing else going on here at all.

Apple's logo for WidgetKit, the developer resource for making widgets.
Apple's logo for WidgetKit, the developer resource for making widgets.

Why people think this is true

We are tempted to say, "search us," but there are reasons some people have thought widgets are doing this, and why others have agreed they must be. The first is that on upgrading to iOS 14, some users are getting notifications that their passwords have been compromised.

This is not iOS 14 shouting out your passwords to everyone, it's iOS 14 doing a good job of notifying you of a problem. If you're really lucky, it's a recent problem. More likely, you've been using passwords on sites that have long since been compromised.

Then most people who are adamantly saying online that widgets are evil, are saying it because their phone slowed down suspiciously when they installed the widget.

They didn't install the widget. They installed iOS 14 and then they installed a third-party widget, or they added one of Apple's built-in ones.

The key thing there is iOS 14. Any update of the operating system is a huge difference and it will regularly slow down your device at first while it rebuilds the indexes that make search work. The indexes that mean when you want to launch an app, iOS knows where it is and opens it immediately.

People who think it's more than this are convinced that anyone capturing your keystrokes must have done it so badly that they visibly slow your phone. People who are certain that this is what happened have even been known to completely wipe their iPhones of all data and start again from nothing.

Yes. Your iPhone will be faster. It would be faster anyway if you'd just waited a while, but a completely wiped iPhone with nothing on it will feel faster because there's no search index rebuilding going on. Because there's nothing there to search.

We would love for widgets to be more interactive, to be more than posters for their main apps, but they're not. Right now, they cannot be.

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 9
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Possibly the most informative non-Dilger article I’ve read on this site in years. 

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  • Reply 2 of 9
    Oh brother.  :( Let the crazy stories begin. Good article. I wasn’t aware the fear mongers were at it. 

    Fear the wrong things. Accept lies and rumors as absolute truth. That’s social media for ya!! Red or blue pill?
    Anilu_777jahbladechasmwatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 9
    MplsPMplsP Posts: 3,269member
    Despite what FaceBook posters are claiming....
    Seeing something on Fakebook instantly makes the likelihood of it being true less than 10%
    Anilu_777DAalsethjahbladechasmwatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 9
    MplsP said:
    Despite what FaceBook posters are claiming....
    Seeing something on Fakebook instantly makes the likelihood of it being true less than 10%
    Unfortunately, seeing something on Facebook makes the likelihood of people believing it over 90%. 

    (Side note: I was on vacation with a friend of mine when the news broke of the Las Vegas shooting at the music festival. When I read the headline that appeared on my Lock Screen he didn’t believe me because he “was just on Facebook and there was nothing there.” He checked again, still saw nothing and questioned if the news was real. His attitude was basically not on Facebook? Must be fake news. He was shocked hours later when it finally appeared on FB.)
    luisirizarry63jahbladechasmwatto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 9
    Since when is Facebook EVER a trusted news source??? SMH <facepalm> People are more and more stupid every day. 
    edited September 2020 jahbladechasmjoerock1234watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 9
    What else is new Facebook always allowing these fake news go through I mean I have seen my share of so many fake news is no joke. And what’s the problem if you think they are watching what you be texting or typing from my point of view if you doing what you not supposed to be doing then don’t use your phone at all. Is a safe program what would happen if someone would be interested in doing something so bad to us here and they found out before it happen just because one fool started typing and asking questions in how to build something would you be mad or happy that they were watching what we are typing. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 9
    chasmchasm Posts: 2,395member
    Ironically, the best way to counteract Facebook’s lying is for anyone here who is on FB to post this excellent debunking article.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 9
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,333member
    Seriously?  People are posting on Facebook about how they're worried about data harvesting?  No words to capture the irony of that.
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  • Reply 9 of 9
    Anilu_777 said:
    Since when is Facebook EVER a trusted news source??? SMH <facepalm> People are more and more stupid every day. 
    Agreed smh
    watto_cobra
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