Honestly, who cares about the notch - is it 2017 still? The bigger problem for Apple is that Motorola, Samsung and others have started selling killer foldable screen devices and Apple is still making incremental changes to an old form factor (ok, they'll have different edges).
"Killer" foldable screens?
This is the part in the evolutionary cycle of a product called the "bleeding edge", with a few fractions of a percentage point in sales compared to the smartphone market in general, and most of these devices are produced at a net loss to the respective companies that market them. Many of those products will have short lifespans due to design and manufacturing issues that bedevil their owners.
Apple has the luxury of taking their time to develop and market foldables. Might as well let all those "early leaders" make all of the mistakes.
Most of those users are actually so well off that they could upgrade their $2,000 phones every six months without battingnan eyelid.
What issues have bedeviled those users?
They are on the bleeding edge because they want to be. It is because of them that prices will come down over time. Software will also improve by leaps and bounds although by all accounts that area is already garnering praise from reviewers.
Android still doesn't have a decent tablet OS but we're suppose to believe that they will have the SW because the screen now folds open for a handful of people who want to upgrade worn out devices within 6 months. You get more funny every day.
Why would you need a tablet OS on a folding phone?
Because an 8" nearly square display is no longer idealized for a phone UI… just like Apple's reasoning for creating a UI for the iPad instead of just bolting a larger display onto a phone UI.
Honestly, who cares about the notch - is it 2017 still? The bigger problem for Apple is that Motorola, Samsung and others have started selling killer foldable screen devices and Apple is still making incremental changes to an old form factor (ok, they'll have different edges).
"Killer" foldable screens?
This is the part in the evolutionary cycle of a product called the "bleeding edge", with a few fractions of a percentage point in sales compared to the smartphone market in general, and most of these devices are produced at a net loss to the respective companies that market them. Many of those products will have short lifespans due to design and manufacturing issues that bedevil their owners.
Apple has the luxury of taking their time to develop and market foldables. Might as well let all those "early leaders" make all of the mistakes.
Most of those users are actually so well off that they could upgrade their $2,000 phones every six months without battingnan eyelid.
What issues have bedeviled those users?
They are on the bleeding edge because they want to be. It is because of them that prices will come down over time. Software will also improve by leaps and bounds although by all accounts that area is already garnering praise from reviewers.
Android still doesn't have a decent tablet OS but we're suppose to believe that they will have the SW because the screen now folds open for a handful of people who want to upgrade worn out devices within 6 months. You get more funny every day.
Why would you need a tablet OS on a folding phone?
Because an 8" nearly square display is no longer idealized for a phone UI… just like Apple's reasoning for creating a UI for the iPad instead of just bolting a larger display onto a phone UI.
Remember a phablet is not a tablet. Neither is a folding phone, which is why it is marketed as a phone and not a tablet. The key advantage is that the phone can fold out to a larger size for more comfortable use. There are plenty of reasons why this is a benefit to those phone users which own one.
This isn't a tablet which can fold down to a lower size. It is a phone which can fold up to a larger size.
Honestly, who cares about the notch - is it 2017 still? The bigger problem for Apple is that Motorola, Samsung and others have started selling killer foldable screen devices and Apple is still making incremental changes to an old form factor (ok, they'll have different edges).
Nah, you just don't know Apple very well. Incremental improvement is how they roll. Gruber wrote about it over a decade ago:
...iterative product development is the name of the game. It’s how we got from the original iPhone/Mac/Watch/whatever to the current versions, or iterations. They don't pop out of a clamshell, fully formed.
It's also how Apple got left behind in key areas and has been scrambling to catch up.
The Apple of 10 years ago is not the Apple of today. iPhone businesses model has also changed radically.
Apple isn't "scrambling" to catch up. That's just your spin on how Apple's iPhone market, and the Android OS market, differ. I read yesterday that the Android market has about 800 device makers, and some 8000 devices. No wonder that these device makers have to compete on features that reduce their margins.
Apple has a roadmap that they stick to, and it has been very profitable, with only a handful of new iPhone models each year. You spend all you time not understanding the Apple market, and yet, even your favorite OEM wants to be more like Apple.
Oh, and it looks like this will be a 200 to 220 million unit sale year for iPhone. Sad about Huawei, but sucks to be so tucked into the CCP.
"But things are starting to change in Germany and around Europe amid growing global scrutiny over China’s economic practices and human rights abuses.
On a recent five-nation tour of Europe, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi was assailed with pointed questions about China’s crackdown in Hong Kong, its mass internment camps, and concerns about Chinese telecom giant Huawei.
Merkel’s trade-first approach to China is meeting resistance, and she may well be replaced next year by a more hawkish chancellor.
“Germany has traditionally viewed China through an economic prism, not a security prism. That has really begun to change this year,” said Barkin. “Germans are coming to the realization that they need to establish red lines, that they need to push China more forcefully, and they need to emphasize human rights.”
Maybe you should spend more time worrying about Huawei, and less about Apple.
Honestly, who cares about the notch - is it 2017 still? The bigger problem for Apple is that Motorola, Samsung and others have started selling killer foldable screen devices and Apple is still making incremental changes to an old form factor (ok, they'll have different edges).
"Killer" foldable screens?
This is the part in the evolutionary cycle of a product called the "bleeding edge", with a few fractions of a percentage point in sales compared to the smartphone market in general, and most of these devices are produced at a net loss to the respective companies that market them. Many of those products will have short lifespans due to design and manufacturing issues that bedevil their owners.
Apple has the luxury of taking their time to develop and market foldables. Might as well let all those "early leaders" make all of the mistakes.
Most of those users are actually so well off that they could upgrade their $2,000 phones every six months without battingnan eyelid.
What issues have bedeviled those users?
They are on the bleeding edge because they want to be. It is because of them that prices will come down over time. Software will also improve by leaps and bounds although by all accounts that area is already garnering praise from reviewers.
Android still doesn't have a decent tablet OS but we're suppose to believe that they will have the SW because the screen now folds open for a handful of people who want to upgrade worn out devices within 6 months. You get more funny every day.
Why would you need a tablet OS on a folding phone?
Because an 8" nearly square display is no longer idealized for a phone UI… just like Apple's reasoning for creating a UI for the iPad instead of just bolting a larger display onto a phone UI.
Remember a phablet is not a tablet. Neither is a folding phone, which is why it is marketed as a phone and not a tablet. The key advantage is that the phone can fold out to a larger size for more comfortable use. There are plenty of reasons why this is a benefit to those phone users which own one.
This isn't a tablet which can fold down to a lower size. It is a phone which can fold up to a larger size.
There is a subtle but important difference here.
A phablet absolutely should not be using a comparably thin rectangle display designed for a phone. That said, since Android isn't exactly "designed" as much as it is stolen, I guess using the same UI for all display sizes makes perfectly sense for someone like you.
Honestly, who cares about the notch - is it 2017 still? The bigger problem for Apple is that Motorola, Samsung and others have started selling killer foldable screen devices and Apple is still making incremental changes to an old form factor (ok, they'll have different edges).
"Killer" foldable screens?
This is the part in the evolutionary cycle of a product called the "bleeding edge", with a few fractions of a percentage point in sales compared to the smartphone market in general, and most of these devices are produced at a net loss to the respective companies that market them. Many of those products will have short lifespans due to design and manufacturing issues that bedevil their owners.
Apple has the luxury of taking their time to develop and market foldables. Might as well let all those "early leaders" make all of the mistakes.
Most of those users are actually so well off that they could upgrade their $2,000 phones every six months without battingnan eyelid.
What issues have bedeviled those users?
They are on the bleeding edge because they want to be. It is because of them that prices will come down over time. Software will also improve by leaps and bounds although by all accounts that area is already garnering praise from reviewers.
Android still doesn't have a decent tablet OS but we're suppose to believe that they will have the SW because the screen now folds open for a handful of people who want to upgrade worn out devices within 6 months. You get more funny every day.
Why would you need a tablet OS on a folding phone?
Because an 8" nearly square display is no longer idealized for a phone UI… just like Apple's reasoning for creating a UI for the iPad instead of just bolting a larger display onto a phone UI.
Remember a phablet is not a tablet. Neither is a folding phone, which is why it is marketed as a phone and not a tablet. The key advantage is that the phone can fold out to a larger size for more comfortable use. There are plenty of reasons why this is a benefit to those phone users which own one.
This isn't a tablet which can fold down to a lower size. It is a phone which can fold up to a larger size.
There is a subtle but important difference here.
A phablet absolutely should not be using a comparably thin rectangle display designed for a phone. That said, since Android isn't exactly "designed" as much as it is stolen, I guess using the same UI for all display sizes makes perfectly sense for someone like you.
The reason for the aspect ratio is simple and has nothing to do with tablets. It is the rectangle of the phone screen doubled out.
You need to get away from tablet mentality.
According to Huawei, the number one problem that had to be tackled was portrait versus landscape orientation, not the screen ratio itself.
The plan for HarmonyOS is to eventually have all apps run in all scenarios (from small sized screens, passing through car head units, right up to TVs). One App for one OS across multiple devices.
Sounds similar to the old Java slogan which is unfortunate because that idea didn't play out as it sounded. Time will tell.
However, the whole distributed OS looks interesting.
They gave an example of typically underpowered and underresourced devices like routers being able to thwart an active attack by drawing resources from a nearby TV (drawing on its NPU in the case of the example).
Honestly, who cares about the notch - is it 2017 still? The bigger problem for Apple is that Motorola, Samsung and others have started selling killer foldable screen devices and Apple is still making incremental changes to an old form factor (ok, they'll have different edges).
Nah, you just don't know Apple very well. Incremental improvement is how they roll. Gruber wrote about it over a decade ago:
...iterative product development is the name of the game. It’s how we got from the original iPhone/Mac/Watch/whatever to the current versions, or iterations. They don't pop out of a clamshell, fully formed.
Indeed. That’s the path of software development also.
Honestly, who cares about the notch - is it 2017 still? The bigger problem for Apple is that Motorola, Samsung and others have started selling killer foldable screen devices and Apple is still making incremental changes to an old form factor (ok, they'll have different edges).
"Killer" foldable screens?
This is the part in the evolutionary cycle of a product called the "bleeding edge", with a few fractions of a percentage point in sales compared to the smartphone market in general, and most of these devices are produced at a net loss to the respective companies that market them. Many of those products will have short lifespans due to design and manufacturing issues that bedevil their owners.
Apple has the luxury of taking their time to develop and market foldables. Might as well let all those "early leaders" make all of the mistakes.
Most of those users are actually so well off that they could upgrade their $2,000 phones every six months without battingnan eyelid.
What issues have bedeviled those users?
They are on the bleeding edge because they want to be. It is because of them that prices will come down over time. Software will also improve by leaps and bounds although by all accounts that area is already garnering praise from reviewers.
Android still doesn't have a decent tablet OS but we're suppose to believe that they will have the SW because the screen now folds open for a handful of people who want to upgrade worn out devices within 6 months. You get more funny every day.
Why would you need a tablet OS on a folding phone?
Because an 8" nearly square display is no longer idealized for a phone UI… just like Apple's reasoning for creating a UI for the iPad instead of just bolting a larger display onto a phone UI.
Remember a phablet is not a tablet. Neither is a folding phone, which is why it is marketed as a phone and not a tablet. The key advantage is that the phone can fold out to a larger size for more comfortable use. There are plenty of reasons why this is a benefit to those phone users which own one.
This isn't a tablet which can fold down to a lower size. It is a phone which can fold up to a larger size.
There is a subtle but important difference here.
A phablet absolutely should not be using a comparably thin rectangle display designed for a phone. That said, since Android isn't exactly "designed" as much as it is stolen, I guess using the same UI for all display sizes makes perfectly sense for someone like you.
The reason for the aspect ratio is simple and has nothing to do with tablets. It is the rectangle of the phone screen doubled out.
You need to get away from tablet mentality.
According to Huawei, the number one problem that had to be tackled was portrait versus landscape orientation, not the screen ratio itself.
The plan for HarmonyOS is to eventually have all apps run in all scenarios (from small sized screens, passing through car head units, right up to TVs). One App for one OS across multiple devices.
Sounds similar to the old Java slogan which is unfortunate because that idea didn't play out as it sounded. Time will tell.
However, the whole distributed OS looks interesting.
They gave an example of typically underpowered and underresourced devices like routers being able to thwart an active attack by drawing resources from a nearby TV (drawing on its NPU in the case of the example).
Apple is decidedly against a policy of universal apps, instead providing a development environment that makes it easy to repurpose code and assets for different form factors, but Huawei should do what they want to.
Honestly, who cares about the notch - is it 2017 still? The bigger problem for Apple is that Motorola, Samsung and others have started selling killer foldable screen devices and Apple is still making incremental changes to an old form factor (ok, they'll have different edges).
"Killer" foldable screens?
This is the part in the evolutionary cycle of a product called the "bleeding edge", with a few fractions of a percentage point in sales compared to the smartphone market in general, and most of these devices are produced at a net loss to the respective companies that market them. Many of those products will have short lifespans due to design and manufacturing issues that bedevil their owners.
Apple has the luxury of taking their time to develop and market foldables. Might as well let all those "early leaders" make all of the mistakes.
Most of those users are actually so well off that they could upgrade their $2,000 phones every six months without battingnan eyelid.
What issues have bedeviled those users?
They are on the bleeding edge because they want to be. It is because of them that prices will come down over time. Software will also improve by leaps and bounds although by all accounts that area is already garnering praise from reviewers.
Android still doesn't have a decent tablet OS but we're suppose to believe that they will have the SW because the screen now folds open for a handful of people who want to upgrade worn out devices within 6 months. You get more funny every day.
Why would you need a tablet OS on a folding phone?
Because an 8" nearly square display is no longer idealized for a phone UI… just like Apple's reasoning for creating a UI for the iPad instead of just bolting a larger display onto a phone UI.
Remember a phablet is not a tablet. Neither is a folding phone, which is why it is marketed as a phone and not a tablet. The key advantage is that the phone can fold out to a larger size for more comfortable use. There are plenty of reasons why this is a benefit to those phone users which own one.
This isn't a tablet which can fold down to a lower size. It is a phone which can fold up to a larger size.
There is a subtle but important difference here.
A phablet absolutely should not be using a comparably thin rectangle display designed for a phone. That said, since Android isn't exactly "designed" as much as it is stolen, I guess using the same UI for all display sizes makes perfectly sense for someone like you.
The reason for the aspect ratio is simple and has nothing to do with tablets. It is the rectangle of the phone screen doubled out.
You need to get away from tablet mentality.
According to Huawei, the number one problem that had to be tackled was portrait versus landscape orientation, not the screen ratio itself.
The plan for HarmonyOS is to eventually have all apps run in all scenarios (from small sized screens, passing through car head units, right up to TVs). One App for one OS across multiple devices.
Sounds similar to the old Java slogan which is unfortunate because that idea didn't play out as it sounded. Time will tell.
However, the whole distributed OS looks interesting.
They gave an example of typically underpowered and underresourced devices like routers being able to thwart an active attack by drawing resources from a nearby TV (drawing on its NPU in the case of the example).
Apple is decidedly against a policy of universal apps, instead providing a development environment that makes it easy to repurpose code and assets for different form factors, but Huawei should do what they want to.
Yes, at least right now anyway. It will be interesting so see how things play out with different approaches.
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This isn't a tablet which can fold down to a lower size. It is a phone which can fold up to a larger size.
There is a subtle but important difference here.
Apple has a roadmap that they stick to, and it has been very profitable, with only a handful of new iPhone models each year. You spend all you time not understanding the Apple market, and yet, even your favorite OEM wants to be more like Apple.
Oh, and it looks like this will be a 200 to 220 million unit sale year for iPhone. Sad about Huawei, but sucks to be so tucked into the CCP.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54455112
"There is "clear evidence of collusion" between Huawei and the "Chinese Communist Party apparatus", a parliamentary inquiry has concluded.
And the MPs say the government may need to bring forward a deadline set for the Chinese firm's 5G kit to be removed from the UK's mobile networks."
But this is worse for Huawei;
https://www.axios.com/exclusive-top-german-official-hushed-up-report-on-chinas-influence-8c6aeef3-0f71-405f-a902-a215399f2068.html
"But things are starting to change in Germany and around Europe amid growing global scrutiny over China’s economic practices and human rights abuses.
Maybe you should spend more time worrying about Huawei, and less about Apple.
and this;
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/09/china-ai-surveillance/614197/
You need to get away from tablet mentality.
According to Huawei, the number one problem that had to be tackled was portrait versus landscape orientation, not the screen ratio itself.
The plan for HarmonyOS is to eventually have all apps run in all scenarios (from small sized screens, passing through car head units, right up to TVs). One App for one OS across multiple devices.
Sounds similar to the old Java slogan which is unfortunate because that idea didn't play out as it sounded. Time will tell.
However, the whole distributed OS looks interesting.
They gave an example of typically underpowered and underresourced devices like routers being able to thwart an active attack by drawing resources from a nearby TV (drawing on its NPU in the case of the example).