I don't subscribe to Stadia, but I'm downloading this on principle. Apple are way out of line with their current App Store stances.
These rules have been in place, they are not "current". What is actually current, is developers trying to break and bypass these rules more and more.
It's best not to try and press a point through pedantry, and if you will insist on doing so then at least be correct.
Apple are doing things, there was a time when they were not doing those things, and there is a possibility that they will not do those things in the future. Therefore they are doing things currently; they have current stances.
I find it very interesting how accepting some people on here are for Apple charging developers for access to their userbase when Google attract such vitriol for charging advertisers for access to their userbase.
I normally defend most decisions that Apple makes, but this feels like a dick move to me. Unless users are somehow put at risk, I can't think of a single reason for the removal of this app. And I'm not a gamer.
If this app is putting users are risk, then I support its removal, with the condition that the issues be addressed. But I'm learning towards Apple just not liking that something is competing with Arcade and their "service" revenues.
Even if that is the case, the Developers have agreed to Apple’s Terms prior to even getting the development kit. With apps like this, they are in violation of that agreement. Apple IS a business; they did not spend tens of billions of dollars building the infrastructure just because of their altruistic nature. I don’t understand the argument that it’s a “dick move” not to allow Google to utilize that infrastructure for free (or at all for apps in violation of the Agreement). This app was 100% written to get Google Stadia on iOS devices in violation of the Agreement. If I were this developer, I would have been shocked if Apple DID NOT remove the app.
Someone better at it than me should check to see if this guy had any professional ties to Google.
And why would Google - a company with a $1 trillion valuation - sponsor this just to get a few thousand users onto a competing platform for a service that is currently losing them money (it will take years for Stadia to break even, assuming that it ever does)? Why on earth would Google prioritize this over, say, a solution that would get Stadia on the tens of millions of Android TV devices? Lots of Apple fans who only buy iPhones and iPads and as a result will never buy an Android phone or tablet or a Chromebook nonetheless own smart TVs with Android TV on it. Android TV would be perfect for those folks! But nah, instead of working on that, we are going to slip a few bucks to some random iOS developer to create an app that is obviously against Apple's terms and will get shut down anyway (frankly I am shocked that Apple took this long to shut it off). Makes perfect sense, right?
Good grief, xCloud, Stadia and GeForce Now are all essentially in beta, are all losing vast quantities of cash, are all primarily commercials to promote their various cloud solutions to enterprise customers as opposed to actual products and services of their own, and will all be on iOS by 2021. So quit it with the conspiracy theories. That you guys are so nervous and protective over the wealthiest and most powerful corporation in the world as if it is some beloved mom-and-pop corner restaurant owned by dear relatives or something is absolutely crazy.
I normally defend most decisions that Apple makes, but this feels like a dick move to me. Unless users are somehow put at risk, I can't think of a single reason for the removal of this app. And I'm not a gamer.
If this app is putting users are risk, then I support its removal, with the condition that the issues be addressed. But I'm learning towards Apple just not liking that something is competing with Arcade and their "service" revenues.
Even if that is the case, the Developers have agreed to Apple’s Terms prior to even getting the development kit. With apps like this, they are in violation of that agreement. Apple IS a business; they did not spend tens of billions of dollars building the infrastructure just because of their altruistic nature. I don’t understand the argument that it’s a “dick move” not to allow Google to utilize that infrastructure for free (or at all for apps in violation of the Agreement). This app was 100% written to get Google Stadia on iOS devices in violation of the Agreement. If I were this developer, I would have been shocked if Apple DID NOT remove the app.
Someone better at it than me should check to see if this guy had any professional ties to Google.
LOL... Google is working directly with Apple to have it implemented. They don't need to work with a small developer to get it done any more than Apple does. Both companies are well-stocked with their own.
Some people are so accepting of conspiracy theories, and if there's not one they like they'll make up their own. Critical thinking is so passe, right?
I normally defend most decisions that Apple makes, but this feels like a dick move to me. Unless users are somehow put at risk, I can't think of a single reason for the removal of this app. And I'm not a gamer.
If this app is putting users are risk, then I support its removal, with the condition that the issues be addressed. But I'm learning towards Apple just not liking that something is competing with Arcade and their "service" revenues.
Even if that is the case, the Developers have agreed to Apple’s Terms prior to even getting the development kit. With apps like this, they are in violation of that agreement. Apple IS a business; they did not spend tens of billions of dollars building the infrastructure just because of their altruistic nature. I don’t understand the argument that it’s a “dick move” not to allow Google to utilize that infrastructure for free (or at all for apps in violation of the Agreement). This app was 100% written to get Google Stadia on iOS devices in violation of the Agreement. If I were this developer, I would have been shocked if Apple DID NOT remove the app.
Someone better at it than me should check to see if this guy had any professional ties to Google.
LOL... Google is working directly with Apple to have it implemented. They don't need to work with a small developer to get it done any more than Apple does. Both companies are well-stocked with their own.
Some people are so accepting of conspiracy theories, and if there's not one they like they'll make up their own. Critical thinking is so passe, right?
15,000 downloads doesn't really seem that significant considering all the heavy breathing game streaming on iOS is getting in the tech press.
Essentially no one knew that app even existed until yesterday.
It was widely reported on tech sites when it was originally available. That was at the height of the pearl clutching regarding lack of game streaming through App Store apps.
I do a LOT of reading and never once saw it mentioned. No doubt it was, but widely?
I believe I read about/learned of the app from an article, right here on Apple Insider, a week or two ago. I downloaded it just to experiment (not a Stadia subscriber).
15,000 downloads doesn't really seem that significant considering all the heavy breathing game streaming on iOS is getting in the tech press.
Essentially no one knew that app even existed until yesterday.
If the app is still available to download, there’s no evidence anything this developer says about Apple’s position is accurate.
Why you say that? The app is not a security risk so Apple is not remove it right away. Based on the developer Twitter Apple called him and asked him to remove the bluetooth controller feature from his app or remove the app from the App Store. I believe he chose to remove the app so that people who downloaded it can still have bluetooth controller support. He also mentioned in Reddit that he will release the app as open source. This really does not matter now anyway since you can use any third party browser with custom user agent feature to play Stadia on iOS with Stadia Controller. The only advantage this app offered was using PS4 and Xbox controllers.
I find it very interesting how accepting some people on here are for Apple charging developers for access to their userbase when Google attract such vitriol for charging advertisers for access to their userbase.
I think it's more that Google vacuums up such an incredible amount of personal information that has people up in arms, allowing advertising that seems... invasive.
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Apple are doing things, there was a time when they were not doing those things, and there is a possibility that they will not do those things in the future. Therefore they are doing things currently; they have current stances.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/29/21493098/stadia-ios-browser-hack-reddit-stadium-app-store-apple-ipad-iphone-ipados
https://toucharcade.com/2020/09/30/google-stadia-iphone-ipad-stadium-app/
https://www.androidcentral.com/you-can-now-play-google-stadia-ios-14-sort
https://www.engadget.com/google-stadia-iphone-workaround-browser-app-reddit-164551373.html
https://www.imore.com/you-can-now-play-google-stadia-ios-14-sort
Right. Very passe.
This really does not matter now anyway since you can use any third party browser with custom user agent feature to play Stadia on iOS with Stadia Controller. The only advantage this app offered was using PS4 and Xbox controllers.