I love this!! Stick it to the man. Not everybody has a USB-c charging block, considering almost all iPhones until very recently have been regular USB charging cord.
You're spot on. All these chargers everyone supposedly already have, are mostly not USB-C and aren't compatible with the cable included with the new phones. It's obvious this was simply a way to get people to spend more. The "reduced carbon emissions" reasoning is only a creative excuse to put a better (albeit false) spin on it.
True!
Also those old bricks are outdated 5Watt chargers. Newer phones should have 20 Watt chargers -- which Apple will be more than happy to sell to you!
I'm glad somebody called bull to the bull and made them include a charger with the phone.
I think another aspect of this that is being missed in the article and comments is this could be partly playing to the EU as well. This year, the EU voted to force phone manufacturers to have a common charger standard to avoid the increasing e-waste of chargers. Apple fought it along with other tech companies and wanted the Lightning port to be included as one of the “standard” charger ports allowed instead of having to move to USB-C (or aging micro USB).
By simply avoiding including a charger and then throwing a USB-C to Lightning cable, they could be seen as appeasing the EU to some extent — at the same time as yes, saving a ton of money themselves in manufacturing, shipping, packaging, etc. and getting the PR bonus of environmental responsibility.
Regardless of their motivations, the fact that the EU was focusing on charger standardization and a reduction of chargers ending up as e-waste shows this wasn’t all Apple’s thinking out of nowhere.
No, they're still requiring Lightening while the rest of the world -- even much of Apple itself -- has moved on to USB-C.
I love this!! Stick it to the man. Not everybody has a USB-c charging block, considering almost all iPhones until very recently have been regular USB charging cord.
You're spot on. All these chargers everyone supposedly already have, are mostly not USB-C and aren't compatible with the cable included with the new phones. It's obvious this was simply a way to get people to spend more. The "reduced carbon emissions" reasoning is only a creative excuse to put a better (albeit false) spin on it.
Everything Apple does is to get us to spend more. They are experts at exploiting human weakness.
It is reasonable for the exclusion of the charger to be clearly explained to the user, as is the idea that everything necessary for correct usage of the device actually be included in the box.
It's logical for Apple to want to spin the move as some kind of environmental move but the reality is that it is a hard sell given what has gone before. More than 10 years of shipping the same woefully underpowered chargers in exactly the same scenario as now. They also made a massive profit off dongles during various 'transitions' and the environment didn't take much prominence then, and they charged a pretty penny for those.
There were a few options open to Apple to do this in a better way. They chose the one that probably earned them more. I can't argue with that but that has little to do with the environment or consumer protection.
I think this is the first time I've given your post a "like"!
To be clear, those complaining are arguing about Apple not including a single port charger, and yet Apple has been shipping computers with USB-C ports for a while now. The only multport “charger” Apple makes is their computers. I remember when Apple came out with USB-C only laptops and people complained that Apple was still shipping USB-A cables with the phones. Those “underpowered” 5W chargers still work well. and if you have those, you still have USB-A cables that work. This is one of the many ways that Apple gets hit both ways. Some of you complain about Apple being greedy, yet fail to see the greed in yourselves. I said long time ago when these rumors came out of no chargers that Apple would tout them as environmental and they did. This is a massive environmental win for Apple. The smaller size of the phone boxes and less weight means less fuel used per phone and less planes used. It also means getting our products quicker as Apple has effectively added bandwidth/capacity to the planes. You complain, but you have no idea how to ship millions of anything.
By removing the charger, Apple can make the boxes thinner and pack more in the same volume-weight metric, thus saving a significant amount in shipping costs. This is, I believe, is the main motivation. The rest is spin.
Apple could have passed on some of those savings and that would have been fair.
The ratio of chargers to devices is going to remain constant as older devices are passed on. There isn't a surplus of chargers as Apple contends!
It is reasonable for the exclusion of the charger to be clearly explained to the user, as is the idea that everything necessary for correct usage of the device actually be included in the box.
It's logical for Apple to want to spin the move as some kind of environmental move but the reality is that it is a hard sell given what has gone before. More than 10 years of shipping the same woefully underpowered chargers in exactly the same scenario as now. They also made a massive profit off dongles during various 'transitions' and the environment didn't take much prominence then, and they charged a pretty penny for those.
There were a few options open to Apple to do this in a better way. They chose the one that probably earned them more. I can't argue with that but that has little to do with the environment or consumer protection.
I think this is the first time I've given your post a "like"!
(Had to acknowledge that).
Thank you.
For the record I've given lots of yours likes. We probably agree on many more things but they just haven't coincided in threads.
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I'm glad somebody called bull to the bull and made them include a charger with the phone.
No, they're still requiring Lightening while the rest of the world -- even much of Apple itself -- has moved on to USB-C.
(Had to acknowledge that).
For the record I've given lots of yours likes. We probably agree on many more things but they just haven't coincided in threads.