Wistron found to be committing violations of labor laws in Indian iPhone assembly plant

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A report from the Karnataka state authorities found that Wistron's Narasapura production plant in India exploited its workers, noting wage underpayment, poor working conditions, and irregular hours.

Wistron found to be committing violations of labor laws in Indian iPhone assembly plant


After a protest at the Wistron plant turned violent, Karnataka's Department of Factories, Boilers, Industrial Safety and Health deemed that the major iPhone assembler had been exploiting its workers.

The primary investigation also uncovered that Wistron's Human Resources department had poor knowledge of labor regulations designed to keep workers safe, according to the South China Morning Post.

Investigations found that the factory did not have enough staff to manage the 10,500 workers, of which 8,500 were contracted and not full-time employees. A senior official in the labor department noted that Wistron should have been more proactive in enforcing sound labor practices.

Wistron's managing director Sudipto Gupta said that the company would work with state authorities to prevent a reoccurrence of the incident.

Hundreds of workers had been arrested or detained by the police after the incident, with Wistron claiming that the riot resulted in up to $7 million in damages.

The primary cause of the riots were ongoing and widespread salary disputes. Workers alleged an engineering graduate was promised Rs 21,000 ($285) per month but instead had received Rs 16,000 ($217) at first, which then reduced down to Rs 12,000 ($163) in the last three months. Non-engineers allegedly had salaries cut to 8,000 ($108), and some claimed to have been paid as little as Rs 500 ($6.78.)

AICCTU, a prominent Indian trade union, spoke out against the Indian government for its lack of action against iPhone assembly partner Wistron shortly after the riots.

The Narasapura plant had reportedly been hiring large numbers of workers, with initial efforts from August aiming to hire 2,000 workers with a final goal of generating 10,000 jobs.

Apple continues to expand its production capacity in India, in part to help with sales in the region, but also to potentially diversify its overall manufacturing operation from a China-centric strategy.

Wistron, as well as fellow Apple assembly partners Foxconn and Pegatron, applied to India's $6.6 billion Production-Linked Incentive Scheme, which aims to build up manufacturing in India by attracting smartphone and mobile device producers.
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  • Reply 1 of 58
    GeorgeBMacgeorgebmac Posts: 11,421member
    It happened here in the U.S. at the turn of the 19th century where industry and government colluded with each other and government failed to protect the lives, rights and well being of its people.

    That is what happened here:   A company took advantage of the fact it was operating in an environment where it had impunity from government oversight -- so workers had little choice but to either accept the worker abuse or to take things into their own hands -- just like American workers did in the violent strikes and riots through the 20 years before and after 1900.
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  • Reply 2 of 58
    thrangthrang Posts: 1,056member
    While I understand that Wistron is responsible here, Apple does not look good with what appears to be a lack of oversight, especially of a newer operation. 

    Unless Wistron was cooking numbers that Apple reviewed. But I would think the would have a large team of inspectors to independently and directly verify compliance with their contract standards.
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  • Reply 3 of 58
    GeorgeBMacgeorgebmac Posts: 11,421member
    thrang said:
    While I understand that Wistron is responsible here, Apple does not look good with what appears to be a lack of oversight, especially of a newer operation. 

    Unless Wistron was cooking numbers that Apple reviewed. But I would think the would have a large team of inspectors to independently and directly verify compliance with their contract standards.

    Apple didn't go into India because they wanted to.   They went there (with one of their suppliers) due to extortion by the Indian government.   They likely knew that their hands were tied and their options limited.
    ronnlkrupp
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  • Reply 4 of 58
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 2,904member
    thrang said:
    While I understand that Wistron is responsible here, Apple does not look good with what appears to be a lack of oversight, especially of a newer operation. 

    Unless Wistron was cooking numbers that Apple reviewed. But I would think the would have a large team of inspectors to independently and directly verify compliance with their contract standards.

    Apple didn't go into India because they wanted to.   They went there (with one of their suppliers) due to extortion by the Indian government.   They likely knew that their hands were tied and their options limited.
    India forced Apple, an American company with no ties to India, to sell their phones there? Huh. That's definitely out of order.
    chemengin1anantksundaramJWSCspock1234gatorguy
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  • Reply 5 of 58
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    Apple needs to be held accountable here.   It’s bad enough that they are using slave labor in China, that will not be tolerated in a freer country like India.  Beyond that the wages highlight just how low Apple will go to enhance margins.   Exploitation is exactly that no matter how much you try to distance yourself.    I really don’t think Cook grasps how bad his behavior is in this regard.  
    chemengin1JWSCelijahg
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  • Reply 6 of 58
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    It happened here in the U.S. at the turn of the 19th century where industry and government colluded with each other and government failed to protect the lives, rights and well being of its people.

    That is what happened here:   A company took advantage of the fact it was operating in an environment where it had impunity from government oversight -- so workers had little choice but to either accept the worker abuse or to take things into their own hands -- just like American workers did in the violent strikes and riots through the 20 years before and after 1900.
    I’m not convinced there is strong evidence of collusion here.  Maybe coming third world corruption at some level but it is pretty obvious here that the government has investigated here and apparently agrees with the workers.    It just looks like Apple and Wistron thought that they could get away with the same crap that is normal in China.  
    spock1234elijahg
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  • Reply 7 of 58
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    It happened here in the U.S. at the turn of the 19th century where industry and government colluded with each other and government failed to protect the lives, rights and well being of its people.

    That is what happened here:   A company took advantage of the fact it was operating in an environment where it had impunity from government oversight -- so workers had little choice but to either accept the worker abuse or to take things into their own hands -- just like American workers did in the violent strikes and riots through the 20 years before and after 1900.
    Slightly different working conditions. People falling in to cauldrons of molten steel, forever becoming part of whatever building that steel went in to. Working beside 3300ºF blast furnaces for 12+ hours a day. Let’s be honest, no where near the same conditions here.
    JWSCspock1234elijahg
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  • Reply 8 of 58
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    thrang said:
    While I understand that Wistron is responsible here, Apple does not look good with what appears to be a lack of oversight, especially of a newer operation. 

    Unless Wistron was cooking numbers that Apple reviewed. But I would think the would have a large team of inspectors to independently and directly verify compliance with their contract standards.
    Do you understand Apple needs to own Wistron in order to do this? 
    viclauyycspock1234
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  • Reply 9 of 58
    chadbagchadbag Posts: 2,032member
    The article said the vast majority of the workers were from external contract agencies (“8,500 were contracted “ out of about 10,500).  I wonder if Wistron was trying to cheat or if the contract agencies were the ones up to shenanigans. 
    spock1234GeorgeBMac
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  • Reply 10 of 58
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member

    wizard69 said:
    Apple needs to be held accountable here.   It’s bad enough that they are using slave labor in China, that will not be tolerated in a freer country like India.  Beyond that the wages highlight just how low Apple will go to enhance margins.   Exploitation is exactly that no matter how much you try to distance yourself.    I really don’t think Cook grasps how bad his behavior is in this regard.  
    Slave labor is used according to American living standard. In many countries it is not slave labor. You are ignorant of Apple business. Foxconn, Wistron, Pegatron are not owned by Apple. They are contracting companies. They also build products for many other companies. Can you elaborate what Apple did to them to enhance margins? 
    spock1234GeorgeBMac
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  • Reply 11 of 58
    The big question is who took the cut? And if Wistron has anything to do with it?

    it is not uncommon for the contract company take a share of the workers’s wage, as long as the workers know beforehand. And it seems it is rather common in India.
    GeorgeBMac
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  • Reply 12 of 58
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    wizard69 said:
    Apple needs to be held accountable here.   It’s bad enough that they are using slave labor in China, that will not be tolerated in a freer country like India.  Beyond that the wages highlight just how low Apple will go to enhance margins.   Exploitation is exactly that no matter how much you try to distance yourself.    I really don’t think Cook grasps how bad his behavior is in this regard.  
    Slave labor means being forced to work for no pay and being owned as property, dumbass. The Nazi’s used slave labor. The Southern states used slave labor. Apple does NOT use slave labor you sot. 
    spock1234
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  • Reply 13 of 58
    thrangthrang Posts: 1,056member
    tzeshan said:
    thrang said:
    While I understand that Wistron is responsible here, Apple does not look good with what appears to be a lack of oversight, especially of a newer operation. 

    Unless Wistron was cooking numbers that Apple reviewed. But I would think the would have a large team of inspectors to independently and directly verify compliance with their contract standards.
    Do you understand Apple needs to own Wistron in order to do this? 
    No they don't. Why would you say this? Apple's supplier contracts can spell out whatever level of detail regarding working conditions, age, conditions, etc. as the supplier is agreeable to.

    https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Supplier-Responsible-Standards.pdf

    You don't think Walmart doesn't send representatives to China to check on factory conditions? (COVID not withstanding). Which are often sub-contracted factories to the "supplier" to Walmart? With 100% certainty I can tell you they do.

    Apple and other large manufacturers have HUGE targets on their backs, both legal and moral/ethical/PR in substance. You don't think they and/or representative agents audit and inspect?

    https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/

    Progress by the numbers.
    • Supplier performance is scored according to a rigorous assessment process in the areas of labor and human rights, health and safety, and environment. In 2019 assessments were conducted at 801 manufacturing facilities and logistics, repair, and contact centers, along with 50 assessments in other parts of our services supply chain. An additional 291 assessments occurred at smelter- and refiner-level sites. And year after year, we see constant improvement.
    edited December 2020
    GeorgeBMacelijahg
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  • Reply 14 of 58
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Wistron is a big company.  Stop treating them like they're a tinpot sweatshop that couldn't be expected to do better and Apple is the only hope for labour rights.  Wistron are responsible for this.
    elijahg
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  • Reply 15 of 58
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    thrang said:
    tzeshan said:
    thrang said:
    While I understand that Wistron is responsible here, Apple does not look good with what appears to be a lack of oversight, especially of a newer operation. 

    Unless Wistron was cooking numbers that Apple reviewed. But I would think the would have a large team of inspectors to independently and directly verify compliance with their contract standards.
    Do you understand Apple needs to own Wistron in order to do this? 
    No they don't. Why would you say this? Apple's supplier contracts can spell out whatever level of detail regarding working conditions, age, conditions, etc. as the supplier is agreeable to.

    https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Supplier-Responsible-Standards.pdf

    You don't think Walmart doesn't send representatives to China to check on factory conditions? (COVID not withstanding). Which are often sub-contracted factories to the "supplier" to Walmart? With 100% certainty I can tell you they do.

    Apple and other large manufacturers have HUGE targets on their backs, both legal and moral/ethical/PR in substance. You don't think they and/or representative agents audit and inspect?

    https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/

    Progress by the numbers.
    • Supplier performance is scored according to a rigorous assessment process in the areas of labor and human rights, health and safety, and environment. In 2019 assessments were conducted at 801 manufacturing facilities and logistics, repair, and contact centers, along with 50 assessments in other parts of our services supply chain. An additional 291 assessments occurred at smelter- and refiner-level sites. And year after year, we see constant improvement.
    The issue in this case is how workers got paid. 
    spock1234
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  • Reply 16 of 58
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    tzeshan said:

    wizard69 said:
    Apple needs to be held accountable here.   It’s bad enough that they are using slave labor in China, that will not be tolerated in a freer country like India.  Beyond that the wages highlight just how low Apple will go to enhance margins.   Exploitation is exactly that no matter how much you try to distance yourself.    I really don’t think Cook grasps how bad his behavior is in this regard.  
    Slave labor is used according to American living standard. In many countries it is not slave labor. You are ignorant of Apple business. Foxconn, Wistron, Pegatron are not owned by Apple. They are contracting companies. They also build products for many other companies. Can you elaborate what Apple did to them to enhance margins? 

    I'm not sure what you are after here.    Apple does indeed use slave labor in China, this isn't about standards of living but rather the Chinese government interning people in labor camps for political purposes.   The net result if forced labor.

    As for my supposed ignorance, I suggest you look in the mirror.   Apple has had long term relationships with these companies even after years and years of reported misbehavior.    Apple only reason to do business with them is to get their work done in largely unregulated areas of the world.   Even if there are "regulations" China is so corrupt that it really doesn't matter if there are labor laws.  

    You must be a bit out of touch with respect to what Apple does to its suppliers.   The history there is pretty public so you don't need to take my word for it.    In a nut shell they simply make demands that the contractors have to make to keep the business.

    Look at it another way, back in the day when Apple closed down manufacturing in the USA and eventually moved most of it to China, they didn't change the prices on anything one bit.   In fact they continued to raise prices.   This has lead to the highest margins in the industry.    It is pretty hard to believe that you are so out of touch that you don't realize just how high Apples margins are on its products.    That was all about Apples move to China to get products manufactured at a far lower costs.    Not one penny of that savings was passed on to consumers in lower prices.

    By the way Apple isn't the only company guilty here, almost every business that moved to China just increased their profits on stuff sold in the USA.   Prices never came down.   Basically a good part of America got screwed over by US based companies enjoying the slave labor afforded them by the CCP.  
    elijahg
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  • Reply 17 of 58
    JWSCjwsc Posts: 1,203member
    thrang said:
    While I understand that Wistron is responsible here, Apple does not look good with what appears to be a lack of oversight, especially of a newer operation. 

    Unless Wistron was cooking numbers that Apple reviewed. But I would think the would have a large team of inspectors to independently and directly verify compliance with their contract standards.

    Apple didn't go into India because they wanted to.   They went there (with one of their suppliers) due to extortion by the Indian government.   They likely knew that their hands were tied and their options limited.
    George, I find myself mildly entertained by your condemnation of the Indian government, while at the same time you ardently defend the Chinese government.  It has a charming schizophrenic quality to it.
    spock1234elijahgGG1MplsPrazorpit
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  • Reply 18 of 58
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    wizard69 said:
    tzeshan said:

    wizard69 said:
    Apple needs to be held accountable here.   It’s bad enough that they are using slave labor in China, that will not be tolerated in a freer country like India.  Beyond that the wages highlight just how low Apple will go to enhance margins.   Exploitation is exactly that no matter how much you try to distance yourself.    I really don’t think Cook grasps how bad his behavior is in this regard.  
    Slave labor is used according to American living standard. In many countries it is not slave labor. You are ignorant of Apple business. Foxconn, Wistron, Pegatron are not owned by Apple. They are contracting companies. They also build products for many other companies. Can you elaborate what Apple did to them to enhance margins? 

    I'm not sure what you are after here.    Apple does indeed use slave labor in China, this isn't about standards of living but rather the Chinese government interning people in labor camps for political purposes.   The net result if forced labor.

    As for my supposed ignorance, I suggest you look in the mirror.   Apple has had long term relationships with these companies even after years and years of reported misbehavior.    Apple only reason to do business with them is to get their work done in largely unregulated areas of the world.   Even if there are "regulations" China is so corrupt that it really doesn't matter if there are labor laws.  

    You must be a bit out of touch with respect to what Apple does to its suppliers.   The history there is pretty public so you don't need to take my word for it.    In a nut shell they simply make demands that the contractors have to make to keep the business.

    Look at it another way, back in the day when Apple closed down manufacturing in the USA and eventually moved most of it to China, they didn't change the prices on anything one bit.   In fact they continued to raise prices.   This has lead to the highest margins in the industry.    It is pretty hard to believe that you are so out of touch that you don't realize just how high Apples margins are on its products.    That was all about Apples move to China to get products manufactured at a far lower costs.    Not one penny of that savings was passed on to consumers in lower prices.

    By the way Apple isn't the only company guilty here, almost every business that moved to China just increased their profits on stuff sold in the USA.   Prices never came down.   Basically a good part of America got screwed over by US based companies enjoying the slave labor afforded them by the CCP.  
    Talking about politics, China is accused by political forces abroad for using forced labor, slave labor. China has hundreds of millions of workers. Apple has to use slave labor or forced to make the most expensive products in the world? Give me a break! Apple enjoys high margins not because of cheap production but because of it is making premium quality products that consumers would not mind paying extraordinary price for them. 
    Apple moved to China many years ago because a lot of PC manufacturers are making Wintel machines there and thus able to sell PCs at bargain prices. I think you are too young to see this history. 
    America screwed itself. Because the people demand higher pay. They used strikes to force companies to increase wages. But in the 1970s Japan is making cheaper cars that many consumers chose. President Reagan broke the union by encouraging free trade allowing US companies relocating plants overseas. China took advantage of this trend. Blaming others for one's own fault and denying one's fault is really typical of democracy. Because in democracy people is always right thus cannot admit responsibility.
    GeorgeBMac
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  • Reply 19 of 58
    GeorgeBMacgeorgebmac Posts: 11,421member
    elijahg said:
    thrang said:
    While I understand that Wistron is responsible here, Apple does not look good with what appears to be a lack of oversight, especially of a newer operation. 

    Unless Wistron was cooking numbers that Apple reviewed. But I would think the would have a large team of inspectors to independently and directly verify compliance with their contract standards.

    Apple didn't go into India because they wanted to.   They went there (with one of their suppliers) due to extortion by the Indian government.   They likely knew that their hands were tied and their options limited.
    India forced Apple, an American company with no ties to India, to sell their phones there? Huh. That's definitely out of order.

    You need to pay better attention to news.
    India told them:   if you don't manufacture here you don't sell here.   Had that been China heads would be exploding.   But, it was India.

    So yeh, the only reason Apple was there was because of India's extortion.
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  • Reply 20 of 58
    GeorgeBMacgeorgebmac Posts: 11,421member
    wizard69 said:
    It happened here in the U.S. at the turn of the 19th century where industry and government colluded with each other and government failed to protect the lives, rights and well being of its people.

    That is what happened here:   A company took advantage of the fact it was operating in an environment where it had impunity from government oversight -- so workers had little choice but to either accept the worker abuse or to take things into their own hands -- just like American workers did in the violent strikes and riots through the 20 years before and after 1900.
    I’m not convinced there is strong evidence of collusion here.  Maybe coming third world corruption at some level but it is pretty obvious here that the government has investigated here and apparently agrees with the workers.    It just looks like Apple and Wistron thought that they could get away with the same crap that is normal in China.  

    India is well known for corruption.
    This would not have happened in China -- it's a much cleaner place to do business in.   That's why businesses migrated there instead of India.
    The only reason Apple went to India at all was due to their extortion:   "If you don't manufacture here, you don't sell here".  
    So Apple gave them a token plant -- which they abused -- as they so often happens in that corrupt country.
    tzeshan
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