Let's see a show of hands...who would like a folding phone...anyone...anyone...Buller...Buller...crickets.
I am going to trade in my Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra for a Galaxy Fold 3 (almost) immediately after it is available on my carrier.
By the way ... if you check this site's archives circa 2013 and much of 2014 there were a bunch of comments AND ARTICLES to the effect of "who wants a phone bigger than 4 inches anyway?" and claims that they were terrible, ungainly, that Apple's design was "perfect for one-handed use" etc.
And if you check this site's archives circa 2014 there were similar comments "who wants a smartwatch? It is just a tablet on your wrist!".
Then it was "who wants OLED! LCD doesn't oversaturate colors!"
"Who wants curved screens! A gimmick!" (Just like widgets and NFC/mobile payments were prior ... said you folks on this very blog.)
"Who wants 120Hz or under screen finger print scanners?" (You guys will when iPhones with them launch in a few months.)
"Who needs 5G?" (According to sales figures ... lots of people did.)
Folks, you have to realize: Apple doesn't adopt every single Android idea. For example: the next thing that Apple adopts from the failed Pixel line will be the first. Apple also hasn't adopted anything from LG since ... LG abandoned sensible smartphone making to go with their total lack of marketing. Apple only copies from Samsung. Why? Because Samsung is successful. They are the #1 smartphone vendor in the world and have been since 2011. So if Samsung comes up with an idea that works, that validates it in Apple's eyes.
1. Despite what you guys wish to believe, Samsung is GREAT at hardware and design especially as it relates to components. So by copying Samsung they aren't copying bad products. In contrast with - again - Google whose Pixel line gets hit with lawsuits and recalls nearly every year
2. While it isn't anywhere near as large as Apple's, Samsung has a fanbase that is very loyal but also VERY DEMANDING. If it pleases Samsung customers, it will please iPhone customers too. Meanwhile if it doesn't work out, Samsung themselves will drop it before Apple starts to seriously consider it.
It's been like this since at least 2013 folks. I don't know why you guys try to act surprised or think that it is ever going to change. But the feedback from Galaxy Flip fans and Galaxy Fold 2 fans (the original Galaxy Fold not so much) have been outstanding. Which means that when you guys get your folding iPhones you will love them too. This will be good for Apple, good for iPhone owners, good for Android owners - because when Apple comes out with an Android feature lots more components get manufactured driving the price down ... curved screens can be had on phones that cost as little as $200 for example - everyone wins. What is there to be down about?
Maybe you would not like it, but the truth is:
The biggest enemy of Apple and the biggest friend of Samsung are the rumors around Apple.
If there weren’t rumors about wat Apple is working on, Samsung would never be able to be “the first”.
How it goes:
a) First, it is always a rumor coming out about Apple, that it is possibly working on something (for example a watch)
b) Samsung picks the idea and starts rushing to make it before Apple and to say “We were first”
c) Samsung brings it on the market, but it is incomplete, underdeveloped en premature and of course without success. (But they are first....)
d) Apple brings its product later on the market , as a 2nd, but the product is mature and has success.
So, I am wondering who is copying who?
So I guess that means a Samsung car is imminent, right?
Nope, Samsung had already launched an autonomous car 4 years back based on the rumors that Apple was working on autonomous car. And it was an utter failure with millions of issues, so typical of Samsung. Now Samsung is waiting for Apple to show them the path so that they can make a knock-off car for the masses.
I wonder what happened with all Apple investments into Liquid Metal. There is just silence. Ideal material for thin big device.
I’ve been wondering about that lately also. With all the patents that keep popping up surrounding Apple’s AR/VR glasses, I can’t help but think that they would be another perfect opportunity to apply the material.
“Folding” is misleading. I think the iPhone Fold can be a midrange category replacing the iPad mini. And being a device that folds from an iPhone Max into an iPad mini size.
Do you really want to carry an iPad mini, folded or not in your pocket? I already have a hard time keeping my pants from sliding down w/an iPhone in my pocket
Let's see a show of hands...who would like a folding phone...anyone...anyone...Buller...Buller...crickets.
I am going to trade in my Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra for a Galaxy Fold 3 (almost) immediately after it is available on my carrier.
By the way ... if you check this site's archives circa 2013 and much of 2014 there were a bunch of comments AND ARTICLES to the effect of "who wants a phone bigger than 4 inches anyway?" and claims that they were terrible, ungainly, that Apple's design was "perfect for one-handed use" etc.
And if you check this site's archives circa 2014 there were similar comments "who wants a smartwatch? It is just a tablet on your wrist!".
Then it was "who wants OLED! LCD doesn't oversaturate colors!"
"Who wants curved screens! A gimmick!" (Just like widgets and NFC/mobile payments were prior ... said you folks on this very blog.)
"Who wants 120Hz or under screen finger print scanners?" (You guys will when iPhones with them launch in a few months.)
"Who needs 5G?" (According to sales figures ... lots of people did.)
Folks, you have to realize: Apple doesn't adopt every single Android idea. For example: the next thing that Apple adopts from the failed Pixel line will be the first. Apple also hasn't adopted anything from LG since ... LG abandoned sensible smartphone making to go with their total lack of marketing. Apple only copies from Samsung. Why? Because Samsung is successful. They are the #1 smartphone vendor in the world and have been since 2011. So if Samsung comes up with an idea that works, that validates it in Apple's eyes.
1. Despite what you guys wish to believe, Samsung is GREAT at hardware and design especially as it relates to components. So by copying Samsung they aren't copying bad products. In contrast with - again - Google whose Pixel line gets hit with lawsuits and recalls nearly every year
2. While it isn't anywhere near as large as Apple's, Samsung has a fanbase that is very loyal but also VERY DEMANDING. If it pleases Samsung customers, it will please iPhone customers too. Meanwhile if it doesn't work out, Samsung themselves will drop it before Apple starts to seriously consider it.
It's been like this since at least 2013 folks. I don't know why you guys try to act surprised or think that it is ever going to change. But the feedback from Galaxy Flip fans and Galaxy Fold 2 fans (the original Galaxy Fold not so much) have been outstanding. Which means that when you guys get your folding iPhones you will love them too. This will be good for Apple, good for iPhone owners, good for Android owners - because when Apple comes out with an Android feature lots more components get manufactured driving the price down ... curved screens can be had on phones that cost as little as $200 for example - everyone wins. What is there to be down about?
The articles were right. The 4" iPhone was perfect to use one handed. When using the latest iPhones (not max) one handed there is always a chance of them slipping out of the hand. One of the ONLY reason for a larger phone is for older eyes to be able to actually read the screen.
The point isn't "who wants" everyone "wants". The real questions is "what is the use case"? One of the ONLY reason, I see is to be able to read the darn screen in a larger format. Though the extra weight is not a fair trade off "for me". If phone makers want to impress me, I want to see them release one of those 1/4" thick clear phones we see in movies
The whole OLED over saturated was a blip in the complaints and are you sure that wasn't about Samsung's implementation, I don't remember the details b/c it was just whining? I appreciate OLED and retina resolution or maybe it's just the retina resolution b/c it presents crispier fonts that allowed me to downsize from an iPhone+ back an iPhone. Oh, there's that size thing again. Either way OLED is like diesel it's a pitstop on the way to MicroLED.
Yes, curved screens were and are useless and do not provide a better UI.
If Apple does re-introduce the finger print scanner it will be as a complimentary method to double authenticate w/Face ID, better securing the phone contents. Though, I do expect there would be an option to use just finger print authentication, especially b/c of COVID and masks. That said, finger print authentication S**KS and I for one do not miss it. It doesn't work reliably and if it's raining forget it.
Yeah, everyone want's 5G but who really has a sustained 5G connection and if they do is it mmWave high-band 5G, Mid-band 5G, or Low-band 5G It's marketing BS. Yes, the newest iPhones are capable of receiving 5G but the carriers cannot provided it. The only real change is that the carriers changed the 4GLTE and 5Ge indicators to 5G for all 5G signals, 99% of the time we are most likely receiving Low-band 5G which though slightly faster is just rebranded 4G LTE. The ONLY place I have started to see real 5G roll out is in the malls and Apple Stores.
Regarding the rest. The real success from Samsung/Google have been mindshare, when in reality all they do (especially in hardware) is release half baked and poorly implemented solutions for people to beta test and eventually end up killing off and leave customers hanging.
If you enjoy Samsung/Google then I'm happy for you and hope you get all marketing promised you.
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The point isn't "who wants" everyone "wants". The real questions is "what is the use case"? One of the ONLY reason, I see is to be able to read the darn screen in a larger format. Though the extra weight is not a fair trade off "for me". If phone makers want to impress me, I want to see them release one of those 1/4" thick clear phones we see in movies
The whole OLED over saturated was a blip in the complaints and are you sure that wasn't about Samsung's implementation, I don't remember the details b/c it was just whining? I appreciate OLED and retina resolution or maybe it's just the retina resolution b/c it presents crispier fonts that allowed me to downsize from an iPhone+ back an iPhone. Oh, there's that size thing again. Either way OLED is like diesel it's a pitstop on the way to MicroLED.
Yes, curved screens were and are useless and do not provide a better UI.
If Apple does re-introduce the finger print scanner it will be as a complimentary method to double authenticate w/Face ID, better securing the phone contents. Though, I do expect there would be an option to use just finger print authentication, especially b/c of COVID and masks. That said, finger print authentication S**KS and I for one do not miss it. It doesn't work reliably and if it's raining forget it.
Yeah, everyone want's 5G but who really has a sustained 5G connection and if they do is it mmWave high-band 5G, Mid-band 5G, or Low-band 5G It's marketing BS. Yes, the newest iPhones are capable of receiving 5G but the carriers cannot provided it. The only real change is that the carriers changed the 4GLTE and 5Ge indicators to 5G for all 5G signals, 99% of the time we are most likely receiving Low-band 5G which though slightly faster is just rebranded 4G LTE. The ONLY place I have started to see real 5G roll out is in the malls and Apple Stores.
Regarding the rest. The real success from Samsung/Google have been mindshare, when in reality all they do (especially in hardware) is release half baked and poorly implemented solutions for people to beta test and eventually end up killing off and leave customers hanging.
If you enjoy Samsung/Google then I'm happy for you and hope you get all marketing promised you.