Signal hacks Cellebrite device, reveals vulnerabilities and potential Apple copyright conc...

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  • Reply 21 of 23
    longpathlongpath Posts: 347member
    There mere implication of the possibility of Cellebrite mitigation will do wonders for Signal’s word of mouth marketing; but I hope Apple sues Cellebrite.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 22 of 23
    dewmedewme Posts: 3,608member
    davidw said:
    dewme said:
    Y'all know that these organizations are all playing in the same shady, sleazy, and cutthroat swamp? Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys is purely subjective and based on the outcome you happen to desire. 
    Star Wars fan?

    From "The Last Jedi"

    when escaping from the casino planet on a ship flown by DJ  (the character played by Benicio Del Toro)  and Finn was questioning DJ on why he was ransacking his own ship, only to find out that DJ and BB8 stoled it. 

              Finn: At least you're stealing from the bad guys and helping the good.

    DJ: Good guys, bad guys, made-up words. Let's see who formerly owned this gorgeous hunk-uh. Ah, this guy was an arms dealer. Made his bank selling weapons to the bad guys. (hologram shows a tie fighter) Oh... And the good. (hologram shows a x-wing) Finn, let me learn you something big. It's all a machine, partner. Live free, don't join.

    and after selling out Finn and Rose and cutting a deal with the First Order, (after their capture), by revealing that the Resistance was fleeing to a planet on transports, in exchange for his freedom, payment and a ship.

              Finn: You murdering bastard!!

              DJ: Oooh... t-t-take it easy, Big F. They blow you up today, you blow them up tomorrow. Nothing personal; It’s just business.

              Finn: You're wrong.

              DJ: Maybe.

    I haven’t seen that one yet but I love that dialogue. Thank you.

    Anyone who’s had any involvement in military work (and I assume law enforcement to some degree) probably understands that entire industries would not exist if “everyone played nice” or if each side wasn’t also doing what they are frequently accusing the other side of doing. We all live in glass houses even if we place a thin translucent film on top of our glass. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 23 of 23
    prokip said:
    Off the back of the truck...

    There is a criminal offense called "Larceny by Finding".  It is a common law offense with significant depending on how heinous the conduct of the finder and how much you upset the judge hearing the matter.  Marlinspike would have to  prove he took reasonable steps to locate the owner of the property, which he unfortunately admits he did not in his blog.



    Not if that's a misdirection intended to obfuscate how he really got it.  It's possible (I don't claim to know how likely), that he obtained it through "legitimate" means and simply doesn't want to reveal the channel from which he obtained it lest Cellebrite close it.

    I'm somewhat skeptical that such a person would readily admit to "Larceny by Finding" in a public forum.  I've seen stupider things, though. 
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