Advertisers flee to Android as majority of iOS users opt out of ad tracking

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  • Reply 21 of 27
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    chasm said:
    There is a perception among some people (here but mostly elsewhere) that data collection is no longer possible.

    That isn't true. Lots of data still being collected on a given site, from what you searched for to what your public IP address is (if you have one), location, and other "generic" forms of data mining. What's dead as of 14.5 is web stalking.

    Most advertisers can get all the data they need to personalize and target ads without needing to web-stalk, and anyway the main byproduct of web-stalking is more profit for FB and Google, and more targeted psychological manipulation and propaganda. That's not a good thing, and thus it isn't needed.

    I remain dumbfounded that web stalking is both somehow perceived as a right for companies to collect surreptitiously, or even legal for that matter. It ought to be outlawed outright, the same way phyical stalking is illegal. Users should absolutely have a codified right to be aware of, and consent to, data collection and how it is used.
    This. 

    Apple has not banned targeted advertising.  They’ve simply said you have to ask permission to track users across apps. 

    If your business model is based on invading folks’ privacy without even being polite enough to ask, then you deserve to fail. 
    dewmewatto_cobra
  • Reply 22 of 27
    To me it is a WIN WIN.

    We get rid of the trackers and Android uses get stuck with more of them. 


    watto_cobra
  • Reply 23 of 27
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,371member
    None of this should be in the least bit surprising. The primary reason for Android’s existence was to ensure that Google would never be fully dependent on Apple (iOS) as a vehicle for its advertising and data harvesting infrastructure, i.e., Google’s bread & butter and primary source of revenue.

    Anyone who paints ATT as a “blocking mechanism” imposed by Apple is seriously out of touch with reality or in a deep state of denial. Apple’s ATT is 100% about asking app developers who are using their apps to support their advertising and data gathering side hustles to come clean with their customers. That’s all it is.

    Apple should have called this feature “Just Be Honest” (JBH), which would have been far more accurate because it puts the onus totally on the developer. It’s their choice whether to be honest or to be conniving and deceptive. Developers who cannot be honest with their customers do not deserve the opportunity to sell their wares in the App Store. 

    What happens on Android should stay on Android. People who choose to get in bed with Google should be prepared to suffer the consequences, including an oozing and nasty rash on their privacy. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 24 of 27
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    dewme said:
    None of this should be in the least bit surprising. The primary reason for Android’s existence was to ensure that Google would never be fully dependent on Apple (iOS) as a vehicle for its advertising and data harvesting infrastructure, i.e., Google’s bread & butter and primary source of revenue.
    LOL, you were actually being serious?

    The reason Google was prompted to develop Android (which started before Jobs ever gave iOS and the iPhone a green light) was so that they would not be dependent on Microsoft. That also became the reason Google and Apple were such fast friends early on during Android development. Apple equally concerned about Microsoft and Windows Mobile ambitions, so Google and Apple partnered up as a tag team.

    You just winging it and making stuff up on the fly is no replacement for 10 minutes of research and reading.
    edited May 2021 muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 25 of 27
    Surprised its 36%, I see no reason to opt in. 

    This data harvest is wrong, Steve Jobs said it himself, he predicted it would get out of control.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 26 of 27
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,371member
    gatorguy said:
    dewme said:
    None of this should be in the least bit surprising. The primary reason for Android’s existence was to ensure that Google would never be fully dependent on Apple (iOS) as a vehicle for its advertising and data harvesting infrastructure, i.e., Google’s bread & butter and primary source of revenue.
    LOL, you were actually being serious?

    The reason Google was prompted to develop Android (which started before Jobs ever gave iOS and the iPhone a green light) was so that they would not be dependent on Microsoft. That also became the reason Google and Apple were such fast friends early on during Android development. Apple equally concerned about Microsoft and Windows Mobile ambitions, so Google and Apple partnered up as a tag team.

    You just winging it and making stuff up on the fly is no replacement for 10 minutes of research and reading.
    So you’re saying this former chief executive in charge of Android engineering, quoting Andy Rubin, was referring to Steve Balmer and Microsoft?

    https://youtu.be/IY3U2GXhz44

    watto_cobra
  • Reply 27 of 27
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    dewme said:
    gatorguy said:
    dewme said:
    None of this should be in the least bit surprising. The primary reason for Android’s existence was to ensure that Google would never be fully dependent on Apple (iOS) as a vehicle for its advertising and data harvesting infrastructure, i.e., Google’s bread & butter and primary source of revenue.
    LOL, you were actually being serious?

    The reason Google was prompted to develop Android (which started before Jobs ever gave iOS and the iPhone a green light) was so that they would not be dependent on Microsoft. That also became the reason Google and Apple were such fast friends early on during Android development. Apple equally concerned about Microsoft and Windows Mobile ambitions, so Google and Apple partnered up as a tag team.

    You just winging it and making stuff up on the fly is no replacement for 10 minutes of research and reading.
    So you’re saying this former chief executive in charge of Android engineering, quoting Andy Rubin, was referring to Steve Balmer and Microsoft?

    https://youtu.be/IY3U2GXhz44

    Google invested in Android development in 2004, buying the fledgling software outright in very early 2005. Back then it had absolutely NOTHING to do with 
    Apple who was not even rumored to be developing their own smartphone. It had EVERYTHING to do with Microsoft.

    If you spent that long to find what some Google person said 5 years later after Apple and Google had a falling out then you surely came across the reason Google felt the need to turn Android into a viable mobile operating system in the first place. Don't be misleading now. It's OK for you to be mistaken once in awhile but not dishonest.
    edited May 2021 muthuk_vanalingam
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