Now-deleted scam app demanded positive review before it even worked

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  • Reply 21 of 29
    Rayz2016rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    sflocal said:
    Xed said:
    sflocal said:
    I rarely use any 3rd-party apps. 
    Really? You don't have any apps for financial apps, retail apps, or any other of the countless and common 3rd-party apps from well known corporations on your device? You're pretty much a stock iPhone with your apps?
    I should have clarified my prior statement.  I do have a handful of apps for my bank, parking meter, Amazon, etc.. just the basics.  I have all the stock Apple apps placed into one folder to streamline space.  My entire iPhone apps covers two screens.  That's it.
    Not so much a clarification as a complete U-turn on your original statement. 
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  • Reply 22 of 29
    Rayz2016rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    dysamoria said:
    dormlock said:
    Stuff like this slips the review process cause the developer used a remote configuration to turn off the features they don't want the reviewers to see. Once it passes review and is released they updated the config to turn them on. Maybe apple should consider a post release review process with a randomized time for check
    Is this proven? It’s an interesting notion, as I was coming here to ask how Apple’s review process could possibly miss this, and what you said here is certainly a good answer if accurate.
    It’s more than likely. If it was activated immediately then you’d be an idiot not to spot it. And this is the same trick Epic used to sneak an App Store inside an app. 

    It’s a very tricky one to spot, so as soon as it happens Apple needs to drop a life-time ban. 
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  • Reply 23 of 29
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    dysamoria said:
    dormlock said:
    Stuff like this slips the review process cause the developer used a remote configuration to turn off the features they don't want the reviewers to see. Once it passes review and is released they updated the config to turn them on. Maybe apple should consider a post release review process with a randomized time for check
    Is this proven? It’s an interesting notion, as I was coming here to ask how Apple’s review process could possibly miss this, and what you said here is certainly a good answer if accurate.
    It's the only way that Apple could have missed this. I think a post review process is a good idea. The app reviewer should test the app a few weeks later. If someone does this, then ban them from the App Store.
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  • Reply 24 of 29
    williamhwilliamh Posts: 1,048member
    Rayz2016 said:
    sflocal said:
    Xed said:
    sflocal said:
    I rarely use any 3rd-party apps. 
    Really? You don't have any apps for financial apps, retail apps, or any other of the countless and common 3rd-party apps from well known corporations on your device? You're pretty much a stock iPhone with your apps?
    I should have clarified my prior statement.  I do have a handful of apps for my bank, parking meter, Amazon, etc.. just the basics.  I have all the stock Apple apps placed into one folder to streamline space.  My entire iPhone apps covers two screens.  That's it.
    Not so much a clarification as a complete U-turn on your original statement. 
    Actually it isn't a U-turn at all.  sflocal wrote that they rarely use 3rd-party apps and not that they didn't have any.  It follows from the statement that they rarely use 3rd party apps that they sometimes use 3rd-party apps and therefore have 3rd-party apps.  I do not know why you are so determined to harass sflocal on this point.
    Dogperson
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  • Reply 25 of 29
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    Sounds like a plumber I know.
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  • Reply 26 of 29
    michelb76michelb76 Posts: 736member
    Kosta Eleftheriou keeps embarrassing Apple. They should hire this guy.
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  • Reply 27 of 29
    Hi.Jackhi.jack Posts: 13member
    FB at one stage when I was upset with something in the app, did not allow me a 1* rating with substantive comment.
    Further to other comments raised, the Apps I find is equally junk. Except for trusted brand names eg banks etc, I simply dread to download a new app. You cannot trust it to do the job described, constantly fearing to be triggering some hidden payment scheme or other nefarious activity.


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  • Reply 28 of 29
    22july201322july2013 Posts: 3,806member
    Hi.Jack said:
    Further to other comments raised, the Apps I find is equally junk. Except for trusted brand names eg banks etc, I simply dread to download a new app. You cannot trust it to do the job described, constantly fearing to be triggering some hidden payment scheme or other nefarious activity.
    Okay. Not to sound argumentative, but I don't know if you observations mean you support or object to Apple's exclusive control of a curated App Store. Are you calling for stronger curation or weaker curation?
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  • Reply 29 of 29
    22july201322july2013 Posts: 3,806member
    sflocal said:
    I wish Apple would not only remove the apps, but ban the actual individual/developer so they can't ever create another ID.  I know that's wishful thinking, but just like being in prison - the individuals responsible for scamming people via iOS apps should never be allowed to create iOS apps again and it would send a message to other developers that  if you attempt to deceive people, you too will get the boot. 
    I did pay for the developer license one year, but didn't do very much with it. The way it worked, if I recall correctly, was I used my iCloud account and the associated credit card to pay for it. There was no additional identification. Apple never met me or saw any ID from me. Since that's the case, how would Apple "ban the actual developer?" I could reapply for a second developer account using a second iCloud account and Apple would not know it was me (I'm not sure if I would have to get a different credit card, but that couldn't be too difficult. Everyone is allowed multiple credit cards.)

    I don't think people really understand how difficult it is to know who you are dealing with on the Internet. There are ways to achieve what you want, but they cost time and effort and money. Even Apple, with all its billions, doesn't go the level of effort to really know who its users are.

    There’s more to it than that. If you’re an individual you need to get a TIN (Tax Identification Number) which you get from the IRS. Doesn’t mean people can’t create fake accounts to make scam Apps, but you don’t just make an iCloud account and start selling and raking in money. 
    Why do I need a TIN if I don't live in America? I didn't provide a TIN or anything else when I got my developer account. I don't know if scam apps are made in America or not, but they will always take the easiest path. And if that means outside America, then they don't need, and can't get, a TIN number.
    muthuk_vanalingam
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