And this is what iOS and iPadOs users will face when side-loading is forced upon Apple. Adware and Spyware will be ram[pant like it is on macOS. Those who claim to be aware enough to avoid it might be okay but the common user will choose to install some cutesy app from god-knows-where and, well, there you have it. It’s probably coming and iOS users will be in the same camp as Android users. Buyer beware.
No they won't. That's silly. The common user is going to do what they've always done: install apps from the App Store. It's what almost every common user does; choose the path of least resistance. That's not a knock against the common user (I consider myself among them), it's simple human nature. That path only leads to the App Store. It's the same for almost every ecosystem save one: Windows. iOS users overwhelmingly use the App Store and will continue to do so. Android users overwhelmingly use the Play Store and they've been able to sideload almost since inception. Amazon users dl mostly from Amazon. Chinese users dl from their primary app stores.
Mac users may be more inclined to dl outside of the MAS than iOS users outside of the App Store, but I still think the majority of apps are dl'd through it. Windows is the exception because Windows users typically are more used to downloading from the web instead of an app store, which really wasn't a thing until Win8 in 2012. No, Windows Marketplace (hahahahahahahahaha) doesn't count. Wait, where was I?
Oh yeah, please stop with the FUD.
I beg to differ. A lot, a real lot, of apps will just opt out of Apple’s App Store. They’re just not going to pay that 30% (or whatever Apple drops that to). They’ll just be a lot less apps in the store, like the Mac App Store. A lot of us will stuck buying out of the store and paying who knows who. With no control over spyware or malware.
A differing opinion is your prerogative. I think it's wrong, but hey. I mean, what's your frame of reference for thinking there will be some sort of mass exodus? A few big apps would hypothetically opt out of the App Store. Most apps won't because they are dependent on the traffic generated by the App Store. Also remember, the vast, vast, vast majority of app devs are small. So those small devs would only be paying 15% commission until they hit the million dollar threshold. A threshold that most won't ever hit. There'd be no incentive to leave the App Store because there's no guarantee customers will follow.
As I already said, sideloading and alternate app stores ave alway been a reality for Android. Their impact could generously be called minimal. More accurately, the impact could be described as near non-existent. I'm pretty confident it will be the same for the App Store.
Yes. You and a couple of others here have said this over and over again but you continue to be wrong, for at least some of us.
I hate the fact that there are some apps I need on my Mac that I can’t get in the Mac App Store because those devs refuse to use it and force me to use their systems. Adobe for example. I have any number of update checkers running in the background of my Mac. On my iPad and iPhone I have one. And plenty of others here have said the same thing.
You can keep spouting this stuff but it doesn’t change the fact that allowing other stores on iOS will TAKE from me my choice (that I exercise by buying iOS devices) to be able to get ALL my apps from one place with one payment system and one update system.
How do I know this? Because I do not have that choice on my Mac. And I hate it. I choose iOS over Android for a few reasons but one of the biggest is it gives me that choice. I wish I could have that same choice on my Mac.
So please don’t be telling me “the system works fine on the Mac”. No. It doesn’t. It sucks on the Mac. And it’ll suck if Apple is forced to bring that to iOS as well.
As a consumer I have that option on iOS because Apple forces it in the developers, for the sake of consumers like me who value that. As a developer I don’t care that Apple forces that on me, because I get how it’s better for consumers and that counts for something (aside from the enormous value the App Store provides me as a developer that I’d never be able to build as good a system for myself, but more importantly I don’t have to think or worry about any of that stuff).
What do we have to do or say for you and the likes of Sweenie to hear and get that?
Your quote can be summed up thusly: me me me me me. I get it, you're only concerned with you. My comment is about the majority of users, majority of devs, and majority of apps. The majority will continue to do exactly as they have done. Anecdotal evidence from the Play Store, Amazon's App Store, China's app stores say that an overwhelming majority of people use the respective app stores even though they have been able to sideload since, well since almost forever. The tiny subset of users who choose to sideload aren't even a rounding error. I'm 100% sure it will play out exactly like that on iOS. There's no sound reason to think otherwise. What you're doing can be classified as "internet overreaction". Nothing, factual or anecdotal, supports your opinion but you breathlessly shout it out anyway. The same type of overreaction that was displayed regarding jailbreaking. OMG! OMG! The world will end if jailbreaking is allowed! Set the kids on fire to save them from jailbreaking! Witches!!! Hyperbolic? Yeah, but it's tantamount to what you're doing now. What we the end result from jailbreaking being allowed? Pretty much nothing.
Jeebus help you guys who use bassackwards "logic" claiming it removes your choice. Continue to buy from the App Store. If some app decides to leave and you want it, you make a choice: get it outside of the App Store or don't. What isn't your choice, never was, nor will it ever be, is the decision regarding alternate app stores. You never had a choice to decide that. Wanting to keep the status quo is not you having a choice. It ain't.
You as a dev, fit exactly what I said: "Most apps won't because they are dependent on the traffic generated by the App Store. Also remember, the vast, vast, vast majority of app devs are small. So those small devs would only be paying 15% commission until they hit the million dollar threshold. A threshold that most won't ever hit. There'd be no incentive to leave the App Store because there's no guarantee customers will follow. "
It's not hard to get what you're saying. What you don't realize is what you're saying doesn't make sense. When you finally realize that, you'll stop saying it and we'll all be better off.
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Jeebus help you guys who use bassackwards "logic" claiming it removes your choice. Continue to buy from the App Store. If some app decides to leave and you want it, you make a choice: get it outside of the App Store or don't. What isn't your choice, never was, nor will it ever be, is the decision regarding alternate app stores. You never had a choice to decide that. Wanting to keep the status quo is not you having a choice. It ain't.
You as a dev, fit exactly what I said: " Most apps won't because they are dependent on the traffic generated by the App Store. Also remember, the vast, vast, vast majority of app devs are small. So those small devs would only be paying 15% commission until they hit the million dollar threshold. A threshold that most won't ever hit. There'd be no incentive to leave the App Store because there's no guarantee customers will follow. "
It's not hard to get what you're saying. What you don't realize is what you're saying doesn't make sense. When you finally realize that, you'll stop saying it and we'll all be better off.