Apple is doing this right! (well hopefully! there are no guarantees that even the best laid plans will work well)
But they aren't just throwing money at a problem to get rid of a nuisance. According to the story:
"Outreach began this week and is being conducted by Milipitas-based
non-profit HomeFirst. The group is sending social workers to interview
community members...."
Homelessnes is a multi-faceted, complex problem where one solution does not fit all:
-- Many homeless are there for mental health reasons -- they can't hold on to a place to stay.
-- Many homeless are there because of drug use
and
-- In this area, many are homeless because, even though they have a job, they simply can't afford a home in this area. As others have pointed out, housing there is incredibly expensive.
So yeh, they are starting with Social Workers talking to each individual case.
GOOD JOB APPLE!
Exactly. It is also important to de-stigmatize drug use. The failed war on drugs has hurt efforts to help people. Anyone that is long-term homeless likely has drug abuse problems attempting to self-medicate. It is time to offer help, not prosecution.
Exactly! What was it Einstein said? "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results!"
The people throwing money at the homeless problem must be the same running the San Francisco money-pit as well.
One thing for certain: you don't know squat about SF Bay Area real estate.
Small properties (like 1 bedroom condos) in much of Santa Clara County run around $700-800 per square foot. Even a small rental unit -- like a 400 sq. ft. studio (which don't really exist) -- for two years would probably run around $1200 per month.
Much of the "reasonably" priced real estate in the area dates from the housing boom of the late Sixties and early Seventies, mostly apartments and condo conversions, maybe ranging from a low $500/sq. ft. in the less expensive neighborhoods to $1000/sq. ft. in upscale neighborhoods like Palo Alto (their public school system drives up the price).
The article specifically states that Apple is also including some funding for healthcare (super expensive) and financial help.
It's not like they are going to relocate these people to Flint, Michigan and dumping them in tenements.
So yeah, "millions" for 35-70 people isn't so far fetched. But you don't know anything about cost of living in the SF Bay Area, specifically Santa Clara County, that is for sure.
Of course you think I wouldn't know, except that I was born in San Francisco, live in San Francisco, and own property here in San Francisco. I see the issues and plights of the homeless folks here in my city, and right outside my own home. I know and see the real estate prices in the Bay Area. Thanks for regurgitating what we here have known for decades. Yes, it's expensive on the peninsula. So?
My city of San Francisco has a 2021 budget of $1.1Billion earmarked for the homeless program for roughly 8,000 homeless people. Just prior to the $1B mark, we've been spending about $750m of SF TAX MONEY every year for about a decade, then about $500m/yr for the decade before that, then $250m/year for decades before that, only for administrative costs to balloon, and the problem is only getting worse.
If you think those millions of dollars for 35-70 people is "about right", then maybe you should throw your own money at the problem because many of us are fed up with it. I shouldn't have to pay some of the highest taxes in California to fund what should be a federal-level issue. Every state should be contributing to this.
Those millions that Apple will pay is a rounding digit on their P&L statement, and will do absolutely nothing to resolve it because the status quo continues.
Show us your obvious solution Einstein.
Important note: You’re conflating daily and annualized statistics, which doesn’t make good math. That figure of 8,000 homeless people in SF is a single-night snapshot number, meaning there are that many counted on one night. The number of homeless people in SF over a year’s time will be orders of magnitude higher than your 8,000 number. Noting the $1.1B annual budget and suggesting it’s all for just 8,000 people is like counting the number of people in your local Wal Mart store right now, and being amazed at the huge annual revenue that so few people generate for that store.
Apple is doing this right! (well hopefully! there are no guarantees that even the best laid plans will work well)
But they aren't just throwing money at a problem to get rid of a nuisance. According to the story:
"Outreach began this week and is being conducted by Milipitas-based
non-profit HomeFirst. The group is sending social workers to interview
community members...."
Homelessnes is a multi-faceted, complex problem where one solution does not fit all:
-- Many homeless are there for mental health reasons -- they can't hold on to a place to stay.
-- Many homeless are there because of drug use
and
-- In this area, many are homeless because, even though they have a job, they simply can't afford a home in this area. As others have pointed out, housing there is incredibly expensive.
So yeh, they are starting with Social Workers talking to each individual case.
GOOD JOB APPLE!
Exactly. It is also important to de-stigmatize drug use. The failed war on drugs has hurt efforts to help people. Anyone that is long-term homeless likely has drug abuse problems attempting to self-medicate. It is time to offer help, not prosecution.
Exactly! What was it Einstein said? "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results!"
Einstein didn't say that, and that's also not the definition of insanity.
Apple is doing this right! (well hopefully! there are no guarantees that even the best laid plans will work well)
But they aren't just throwing money at a problem to get rid of a nuisance. According to the story:
"Outreach began this week and is being conducted by Milipitas-based
non-profit HomeFirst. The group is sending social workers to interview
community members...."
Homelessnes is a multi-faceted, complex problem where one solution does not fit all:
-- Many homeless are there for mental health reasons -- they can't hold on to a place to stay.
-- Many homeless are there because of drug use
and
-- In this area, many are homeless because, even though they have a job, they simply can't afford a home in this area. As others have pointed out, housing there is incredibly expensive.
So yeh, they are starting with Social Workers talking to each individual case.
GOOD JOB APPLE!
Exactly. It is also important to de-stigmatize drug use. The failed war on drugs has hurt efforts to help people. Anyone that is long-term homeless likely has drug abuse problems attempting to self-medicate. It is time to offer help, not prosecution.
Exactly! What was it Einstein said? "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results!"
Einstein didn't say that, and that's also not the definition of insanity.
Apple is doing this right! (well hopefully! there are no guarantees that even the best laid plans will work well)
But they aren't just throwing money at a problem to get rid of a nuisance. According to the story:
"Outreach began this week and is being conducted by Milipitas-based
non-profit HomeFirst. The group is sending social workers to interview
community members...."
Homelessnes is a multi-faceted, complex problem where one solution does not fit all:
-- Many homeless are there for mental health reasons -- they can't hold on to a place to stay.
-- Many homeless are there because of drug use
and
-- In this area, many are homeless because, even though they have a job, they simply can't afford a home in this area. As others have pointed out, housing there is incredibly expensive.
So yeh, they are starting with Social Workers talking to each individual case.
GOOD JOB APPLE!
Exactly. It is also important to de-stigmatize drug use. The failed war on drugs has hurt efforts to help people. Anyone that is long-term homeless likely has drug abuse problems attempting to self-medicate. It is time to offer help, not prosecution.
Exactly! What was it Einstein said? "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results!"
Einstein didn't say that, and that's also not the definition of insanity.
Perhaps... But it is insane
In the context of science, it’s not insane at all. It is customary practice to repeat experiments over and over, in order to develop statistical validity for the experiment. A low probability result is not a no probability result, and it is entirely sane to expect the low probability result to turn up eventually - after repeating the same thing over and over. A different, one-in-a-million occurrence would quite reasonably be expected to turn up after many, many repetitions that achieve the same, more common result.
Apple is doing this right! (well hopefully! there are no guarantees that even the best laid plans will work well)
But they aren't just throwing money at a problem to get rid of a nuisance. According to the story:
"Outreach began this week and is being conducted by Milipitas-based
non-profit HomeFirst. The group is sending social workers to interview
community members...."
Homelessnes is a multi-faceted, complex problem where one solution does not fit all:
-- Many homeless are there for mental health reasons -- they can't hold on to a place to stay.
-- Many homeless are there because of drug use
and
-- In this area, many are homeless because, even though they have a job, they simply can't afford a home in this area. As others have pointed out, housing there is incredibly expensive.
So yeh, they are starting with Social Workers talking to each individual case.
GOOD JOB APPLE!
Exactly. It is also important to de-stigmatize drug use. The failed war on drugs has hurt efforts to help people. Anyone that is long-term homeless likely has drug abuse problems attempting to self-medicate. It is time to offer help, not prosecution.
Exactly! What was it Einstein said? "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results!"
Einstein didn't say that, and that's also not the definition of insanity.
Perhaps... But it is insane
In the context of science, it’s not insane at all. It is customary practice to repeat experiments over and over, in order to develop statistical validity for the experiment. A low probability result is not a no probability result, and it is entirely sane to expect the low probability result to turn up eventually - after repeating the same thing over and over. A different, one-in-a-million occurrence would quite reasonably be expected to turn up after many, many repetitions that achieve the same, more common result.
"in the context of" the discussion you are jumping in on -- From your man-splaning response, you apparently advocate continuing to do the the same thing: Namely house homeless drug addicts in jails hoping that that will cure the problem.
Obviously more of the same won't cure that problem and thinking it will is, well, if not insane then just stupid.
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What was it Einstein said?
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results!"
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I thought it was a socially distanced Microsoft store.
Perhaps... But it is insane