New #AppleToo movement drawing attention to racism, sexism, inequality inside Apple
in General Discussion edited April 2022
The formation of the group comes after weeks of public statements from Apple employees about internal complaints going unanswered or being outright ignored. A Discord community of around 200 Apple employees and contractors was used to launch the movement.
The Verge says that around 15 current and former Apple employees were directly involved in organizing the effort. The AppleToo website has a short statement and a login with a secret password that can be obtained from AppleToo organizers.
The Discord where the movement was first shared is owned by Apple leaker "Fudge." AppleInsider staff reached out to Fudge to get the full story.
For too long, Apple has evaded public scrutiny. The truth is that for many Apple workers -- a reality faced disproportionately by our Black, Indigenous, and other colleagues from minoritized racial, gender, and historically marginalized groups of people -- the culture of secrecy creates an opaque, intimidating fortress. When we press for accountability and redress to the persistent injustices we witness or experience in our workplace, we are faced with a pattern of isolation, degredation, and gaslighting.
No more. We've exhausted all internal avenues. We've talked with our leadership. We've gone to the People team. We've escalated through Business Conduct. Nothing has changed.
It's time to Think Different.
"One of the members sent an invite to cherthedev (Cher Scarlett), she saw my little corner and pretty much was 150% on board with its existence," Fudge said, speaking of the Apple employee Discord. "After that I just offered to give her a hand in terms of Twitter platform and server community members for her cause."
Fudge sees their goals in line with Scarlett's and welcomed the movement. According to Fudge, the Discord's response has been mostly positive.
Apple workers are coming together to talk openly about issues we want addressed in our workplace.
Discrimination, harassment, and retaliation happen at #AppleToo.
If you work or worked for Apple, or a third party, connect with us at https://t.co/sQMQ22Thvf.-- Apple Workers #AppleToo (@AppleLaborers)
One Apple employee, Ashley Gjovik, was not part of the founding of #AppleToo as sometimes reported, but has been very vocal on Twitter by stating multiple problems that have occurred within Apple. She alleges a powerful cover-up culture within Apple that led to her eventual administrative leave.
Her story isn't the only one, and stories from many Apple employees are being gathered for the AppleToo website. Many examples of alleged harassment from within Apple can be seen on Gjovik's Twitter.
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look, anywhere there are people, there will be issues.
How about work hard and make yourself indispensable. The best candidates should get the best jobs. The hardest and smartest workers should get the promotions.
It a bad fit
The timing is quite suspicious shortly after that crazy cat lady spoke out against Apple. Her firing is long overdue.
And Tim Cook deserves this for constantly bending over backwards for the sake of political correctness. News Flash! The same PC people don’t give a damn about you either!!
If I ran Apple I would fire all these crybabies and tell them to work for a company who isn’t racist and sexist. Problem solved!!!
Freedom of Speech not only gives you to right to speak, but the right not to speak. I'd suggest, since you could have no idea about the substance of these issues, you make use of the important right of not speaking.
Pretty good, actually. Just ordered a pizza. A topic doesn't become unimportant just because it intersects with something we care about on the venn diagram. Apple is not a benevolent entity, it's a corporation made up of people. I happen to think that equal opportunity is important, and people -- even when they have the best intentions -- are falliable. If these employees have legimiate complaints and they have exhaused every other avenue available to them, then the least we can do is hear them out. They seem to have put together a council of sorts and are fielding complaints through an alternate feedback channel. That kind of job-risking orginzation doesn't tend to happen for absolutely no reason.
If it turns out to be much ado about nothing then so be it.
Not a good look man, not gonna lie. If these allegations are true there are some dirty people in management and other controlling positions. Maybe not executive staff, but everything below VP is a mystery outside of Apple.
Apple is a company like any other. If systemic issues are being ignored because of a corrupt culture, then speaking out is the only way to force change. There's a solid chance these complaints never made it past middle management. Tbh, todays coverage could be the first time Tim Cook is hearing these grievances.
Not everything has to be conspiracy. These are real accusations and likely very real problems, so let's hope there's some resolution from Apple soon. Otherwise get ready to hear about this a whole lot more over the coming months.
This is a whole lot more than 12 people. Apparently over 200 Apple employees have joined the Fudge Discord today.
Having people working for me and hearing the complaint first hand about how something is not fair or unreasonable and how it could be better. Most times people do not have any real solution other than to say it should be different and they could do better. My response to people like this was you're always free to do your own thing start your own company and do it better and when they do they can come back and let us know how well that worked for them.