"I have huge respect for Snowden and what he did, but as of the last few years he just seems like a attention wh***. "
So if he is an attention wh***, exactly what things has he said that were incorrect, not accurate or specious?
I would say he is that rare creature- someone motivated more by his conscience than any desire to get attention or gain money. He walked away from a quarter million Dollar a year contractor job over the NSA spying that has since been totally verified. He did not flee to Russia as the MSM commonly allows National Security State talking heads accuse, he was transiting the Moscow airport when the State Department revoked his passport - trapping him in Russia.
He also knows that he could never get a fair trial in the United States nor would it be public. The US Attorney would approach the bench and invoke national security and all would go behind a curtain and he would be locked away for the majority or rest of his natural life.
The reason he was treated as he was is that he blew the whistle on government misconduct. History will be far kinder to him than the American government.
Mister Snowdon has been silent on all the other implementations that are truly a privacy disaster (The Billions made from it scanning your content are just a proof how effective Google and Facebook use this data). No, he has been quite consistent.
I don't take advice from from the chicken little residing in Hotel Putin.
He’s literally there because he exposed the US government committed criminal constitutional violations against the American public. In fact, he’s there because our government has been proven capable of doing the exact type of illegal surveillance that people concerned about this new Apple program are talking about. You go ahead and keep cheering on totalitarianism wrapped in “save the children” and “stop terrorism” though.
He's literally there because he doesn't want to face the consequences of his acts and is willing to to serve as a stooge for Putin. You go ahead and bow down before him and Putin though, having others pay for the consequences of their actions is their signature move. Navalny gets all my respect for the courage of his moral stance, run away and hide chicken little gets none.
What exactly do you propose the consequences for his “acts” should be? Our own courts found that the program he exposed was ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL… i.e, Snowden was right. This is a matter of public record and he still receives no pardon. Nobody paid for Snowden’s acts. To date? The government has refused to show any evidence that even a single American died because of what Snowden revealed. They just expect us to trust them and, despite being proven liars, sheep like you will. This is all public record at this point. Stop talking about things you clearly have no intention of informing yourself about before spouting off.
You guys, I just have to remind you that MS, Google, Facebook, and Twitter have been "scanning" your videos and images for CSAM for years. Apple was actually "late" to this feature. Now you're upset about Apple? LOL
Clearly, none of you people have a clue on how it works.
Snowden is a traitor and betrayed our Americans for exposing our privacy for the internet to see and you're worried about Apple who is making sure no child porn is shared across the Internet while preserving privacy?
We don’t want Apple to turn into Facebook or Google.
Or Dropbox or Twitter or Tumblr or any big service hosting content? Yeah they all do CSAM hash scans for kiddie porn, my guy. And guess what -- Apple has too! This was first implemented server-side over a year ago, perhaps in 2019:
I think you are deliberately missing the point. You just said this was implemented server side over a year ago. Fine. Then explain to me the need to implement it ON DEVICE. That’s the part that is creating the controversy and people like you are straw-manning everybody else by pretending that people don’t understand that hosting services scan content and have every right to do so.
Apple must not believe it’s a security or privacy risk to scan server side because they are already doing it. Yet, they are saying that on device scanning is because of privacy concerns. I’ve yet to hear anybody explain this in a way that makes any sense. This is why people are upset and concerned that this will lead to our devices being scanned regardless of if we are uploading something to a server that doesn’t belong to us. Stop dancing around the real issue.
You guys, I just have to remind you that MS, Google, Facebook, and Twitter have been "scanning" your videos and images for CSAM for years. Apple was actually "late" to this feature. Now you're upset about Apple? LOL
Clearly, none of you people have a clue on how it works.
Snowden is a traitor and betrayed our Americans for exposing our privacy for the internet to see and you're worried about Apple who is making sure no child porn is shared across the Internet while preserving privacy?
We don’t want Apple to turn into Facebook or Google.
Or Dropbox or Twitter or Tumblr or any big service hosting content? Yeah they all do CSAM hash scans for kiddie porn, my guy. And guess what -- Apple has too! This was first implemented server-side over a year ago, perhaps in 2019:
You become boring. That article is irrelevant since Apple has systematically denied that they scanned iCloud Photos server-side. What she's talking about in that article has been revealed by 9to5Mac: those are iCloud Mail photo attachments. As an attachment those are unencrypted.
You guys, I just have to remind you that MS, Google, Facebook, and Twitter have been "scanning" your videos and images for CSAM for years. Apple was actually "late" to this feature. Now you're upset about Apple? LOL
Clearly, none of you people have a clue on how it works.
Snowden is a traitor and betrayed our Americans for exposing our privacy for the internet to see and you're worried about Apple who is making sure no child porn is shared across the Internet while preserving privacy?
What Google et al are doing is NOT the same thing as Apple proposes. The "cloud" is just a slang word that means someone else's computer. When you choose to upload a photo to a third party you lose the right to control over that same photo. Apple proposes that when you take a photo you lose control over it.
So, when you send pictures you’ve personally taken with your iPhone and send them to iCloud, and your iPhone hashes them and comparison them to hashes of child porn, you suddenly somehow have retroactively lost control of the picture the moment you took it? Yeah, lean back on the rhetoric dude.
Snowden is a hero, and he knows exactly what he’s talking about. He should long have been given political asylum in a Western European country, and be nominated for the Nobel peace prize together with Assange.
Perhaps if he understood what civil disobedience really is, stopped acting like an entitled snowflake, and accepted responsibility for his actions he might have the moral authority that you are trying to anoint him with. Until then, his actions will always be suspect.
iOS 15 Mail has a feature to obscure your IP address when loading remote images… and Apple offers to load them automatically with the obscured IP. How many people will have no idea what this is really about and choose to load images automatically? While the IP is obscured, the mere act of loading images confirms your email address is valid, that the messages are read, and indicates when they are read. So much for privacy.
How is this related to this article in any way? "So much for privacy", like it's Apple's fault. They remove tracking pixels and will be doing a few other things to obfuscate data for senders, but yes you are correct that loading remote content attached to your user ID reveals you opened it. This is an improvement over what's currently offered, and there's no magic solution here. What is your solution?
Don't open remote images in mail. The solution couldn't be more obvious or simple, and it should be the default.
And yes, that's completely different from Apple's spyware that scans your data on your phone.
You don't have to. You can go into Mail Privacy Protection, turn off Protect Mail Activity, but then turn on Hide IP address and Block All Remote Content if that's what you'd prefer it that way. Maybe you should actually use this feature before you start ripping on it. Maybe they'll improve on it, given it's a brand new and still beta feature. Or, you could just complain like usual.
You guys, I just have to remind you that MS, Google, Facebook, and Twitter have been "scanning" your videos and images for CSAM for years. Apple was actually "late" to this feature. Now you're upset about Apple? LOL
Clearly, none of you people have a clue on how it works.
Snowden is a traitor and betrayed our Americans for exposing our privacy for the internet to see and you're worried about Apple who is making sure no child porn is shared across the Internet while preserving privacy?
What Google et al are doing is NOT the same thing as Apple proposes. The "cloud" is just a slang word that means someone else's computer. When you choose to upload a photo to a third party you lose the right to control over that same photo. Apple proposes that when you take a photo you lose control over it.
So, when you send pictures you’ve personally taken with your iPhone and send them to iCloud, and your iPhone hashes them and comparison them to hashes of child porn, you suddenly somehow have retroactively lost control of the picture the moment you took it? Yeah, lean back on the rhetoric dude.
The scanning is done on device. When iCloud is enabled iPhoto sync is ON BY DEFAULT. There is no rhetoric to lean back on, there are facts however. The phone is taking an adversarial role with it's owner as it now has the capacity to judge the content of a photo and react to that content without the consent of the owner. We're talking about CSAM in the US, but as Apple has shown it will deliberately choose to weaken security for convenience, that will change as other regulatory environments demand it to. I am all for scanning on their servers, but not on hardware that I own.
You guys, I just have to remind you that MS, Google, Facebook, and Twitter have been "scanning" your videos and images for CSAM for years. Apple was actually "late" to this feature. Now you're upset about Apple? LOL
Clearly, none of you people have a clue on how it works.
Snowden is a traitor and betrayed our Americans for exposing our privacy for the internet to see and you're worried about Apple who is making sure no child porn is shared across the Internet while preserving privacy?
What Google et al are doing is NOT the same thing as Apple proposes. The "cloud" is just a slang word that means someone else's computer. When you choose to upload a photo to a third party you lose the right to control over that same photo. Apple proposes that when you take a photo you lose control over it.
So, when you send pictures you’ve personally taken with your iPhone and send them to iCloud, and your iPhone hashes them and comparison them to hashes of child porn, you suddenly somehow have retroactively lost control of the picture the moment you took it? Yeah, lean back on the rhetoric dude.
The scanning is done on device. When iCloud is enabled iPhoto sync is ON BY DEFAULT. There is no rhetoric to lean back on, there are facts however. The phone is taking an adversarial role with it's owner as it now has the capacity to judge the content of a photo and react to that content without the consent of the owner. We're talking about CSAM in the US, but as Apple has shown it will deliberately choose to weaken security for convenience, that will change as other regulatory environments demand it to. I am all for scanning on their servers, but not on hardware that I own.
You guys, I just have to remind you that MS, Google, Facebook, and Twitter have been "scanning" your videos and images for CSAM for years. Apple was actually "late" to this feature. Now you're upset about Apple? LOL
Clearly, none of you people have a clue on how it works.
Snowden is a traitor and betrayed our Americans for exposing our privacy for the internet to see and you're worried about Apple who is making sure no child porn is shared across the Internet while preserving privacy?
What Google et al are doing is NOT the same thing as Apple proposes. The "cloud" is just a slang word that means someone else's computer. When you choose to upload a photo to a third party you lose the right to control over that same photo. Apple proposes that when you take a photo you lose control over it.
So, when you send pictures you’ve personally taken with your iPhone and send them to iCloud, and your iPhone hashes them and comparison them to hashes of child porn, you suddenly somehow have retroactively lost control of the picture the moment you took it? Yeah, lean back on the rhetoric dude.
The scanning is done on device. When iCloud is enabled iPhoto sync is ON BY DEFAULT. There is no rhetoric to lean back on, there are facts however. The phone is taking an adversarial role with it's owner as it now has the capacity to judge the content of a photo and react to that content without the consent of the owner. We're talking about CSAM in the US, but as Apple has shown it will deliberately choose to weaken security for convenience, that will change as other regulatory environments demand it to. I am all for scanning on their servers, but not on hardware that I own.
iCloud Photo Library and Photo Stream are most definitely opt-in.
Well done. You definitely had me second guessing myself, but it turns out you're 100% wrong on that. Here's what I did, I have an older (but still able to run 14.7) iPhone that I reset to defaults. I signed in with my iCloud account and the photo library was set to sync via iCloud on the new (old) phone by default. The iCloud photo sync was already OFF on my actual iPhone 11. As a matter of fact I don't use photo syncing on any of my Apple devices. The verdict - iCloud photo sync defaults to ON when iCloud is enabled.
You guys, I just have to remind you that MS, Google, Facebook, and Twitter have been "scanning" your videos and images for CSAM for years. Apple was actually "late" to this feature. Now you're upset about Apple? LOL
Clearly, none of you people have a clue on how it works.
Snowden is a traitor and betrayed our Americans for exposing our privacy for the internet to see and you're worried about Apple who is making sure no child porn is shared across the Internet while preserving privacy?
What Google et al are doing is NOT the same thing as Apple proposes. The "cloud" is just a slang word that means someone else's computer. When you choose to upload a photo to a third party you lose the right to control over that same photo. Apple proposes that when you take a photo you lose control over it.
So, when you send pictures you’ve personally taken with your iPhone and send them to iCloud, and your iPhone hashes them and comparison them to hashes of child porn, you suddenly somehow have retroactively lost control of the picture the moment you took it? Yeah, lean back on the rhetoric dude.
The scanning is done on device. When iCloud is enabled iPhoto sync is ON BY DEFAULT. There is no rhetoric to lean back on, there are facts however. The phone is taking an adversarial role with it's owner as it now has the capacity to judge the content of a photo and react to that content without the consent of the owner. We're talking about CSAM in the US, but as Apple has shown it will deliberately choose to weaken security for convenience, that will change as other regulatory environments demand it to. I am all for scanning on their servers, but not on hardware that I own.
iCloud Photo Library and Photo Stream are most definitely opt-in.
Well done. You definitely had me second guessing myself, but it turns out you're 100% wrong on that. Here's what I did, I have an older (but still able to run 14.7) iPhone that I reset to defaults. I signed in with my iCloud account and the photo library was set to sync via iCloud on the new (old) phone by default. The iCloud photo sync was already OFF on my actual iPhone 11. As a matter of fact I don't use photo syncing on any of my Apple devices. The verdict - iCloud photo sync defaults to ON when iCloud is enabled.
You guys, I just have to remind you that MS, Google, Facebook, and Twitter have been "scanning" your videos and images for CSAM for years. Apple was actually "late" to this feature. Now you're upset about Apple? LOL
Clearly, none of you people have a clue on how it works.
Snowden is a traitor and betrayed our Americans for exposing our privacy for the internet to see and you're worried about Apple who is making sure no child porn is shared across the Internet while preserving privacy?
What Google et al are doing is NOT the same thing as Apple proposes. The "cloud" is just a slang word that means someone else's computer. When you choose to upload a photo to a third party you lose the right to control over that same photo. Apple proposes that when you take a photo you lose control over it.
So, when you send pictures you’ve personally taken with your iPhone and send them to iCloud, and your iPhone hashes them and comparison them to hashes of child porn, you suddenly somehow have retroactively lost control of the picture the moment you took it? Yeah, lean back on the rhetoric dude.
The scanning is done on device. When iCloud is enabled iPhoto sync is ON BY DEFAULT. There is no rhetoric to lean back on, there are facts however. The phone is taking an adversarial role with it's owner as it now has the capacity to judge the content of a photo and react to that content without the consent of the owner. We're talking about CSAM in the US, but as Apple has shown it will deliberately choose to weaken security for convenience, that will change as other regulatory environments demand it to. I am all for scanning on their servers, but not on hardware that I own.
iCloud Photo Library and Photo Stream are most definitely opt-in.
Well done. You definitely had me second guessing myself, but it turns out you're 100% wrong on that. Here's what I did, I have an older (but still able to run 14.7) iPhone that I reset to defaults. I signed in with my iCloud account and the photo library was set to sync via iCloud on the new (old) phone by default. The iCloud photo sync was already OFF on my actual iPhone 11. As a matter of fact I don't use photo syncing on any of my Apple devices. The verdict - iCloud photo sync defaults to ON when iCloud is enabled.
Test it yourself. Nothing happened to me. I skimmed a couple of the links and while they all say that the feature needs turned on, that doesn't preclude it from being on by default. It is on default when iCloud is enabled. Full stop.
I don’t see how Apple’s system invades on privacy. It’s a system like nothing else. Unless you store a collection of known CSAM on iCloud your photos are just hashes to compare. The system doesn’t even do image recognition to tell what’s on the image.
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https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/23/apple-scans-icloud-mail-for-csam/
https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-removes-feature-that-allowed-its-apps-to-bypass-macos-firewalls-and-vpns/
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204264
https://www.imore.com/icloud-photo-library
https://www.macrumors.com/guide/icloud-photo-library/
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