Not to make this expressly political per se, but this is what happens. The left eats itself. Apple is probably one of the most progressive employers in the world. The notion that there is some massive problem in gender and racial equity doesn’t even pass the smell test.
Usually there's not a massive problem, nowadays people are eviscerated over getting anything less than A+ on the purity tests. In fact, people can even get A+ and the lived reality of other people who believe otherwise is enough to fall below expectations.Say there are 4 software engineers with the same role, Simon (white male) gets $110k/year, Craig (white male) gets $100k, Rebecca (white female) gets $102k, Sarah (minority female) gets $103k.Even the survey done by the employees only found a 5-6% gap:And it's not like Apple isn't doing anything or is against it, they have a whole page with animated charts about it:SnipApple's been at this game a long time and has employed a lot of people over the years and they can see through people's nonsense. No company can ever be free from issues between employees, they are people like everyone else and there are no rules that can ever adequately make a working environment anywhere near ideal for everyone but they clearly have a process that is working well for the vast majority of their over 100k employees worldwide.
Apple needs to stay out of politics. If Texas wants to outlaw killing babies, that’s fine. States have governing authority. If texas wants to ensure election integrity to secure that my voice is actually my voice and that it is heard, then that’s great! It’s so strange how the left wants me to not be able to travel without my medical history on my passport ID. But they want to push for me to vote without proving who I am via ID. Unbelievable.Apple just needs to worry about making the best products and taking care of their workers. Stay out of politics and moral issues that you may be on the wrong side about. If they want to pull out of Texas over a moral difference but stay in China despite gross human rights abuse and spying, then hey, go ahead snd show your true colors.
Every one is a capitalist in America, from an office clerk, to a waitress to the janitor—arguing passionately, at length, and endlessly for their continued exploitation. I’m not responding directly to your post. Still, it’s incredible how dismissive you (plural) are of people fighting for better pay and working conditions. As if the squeeze and daily struggle of workers in the US ain’t happening at all. I’ve seen posts calling these people “union thugs,” saying: “If they don’t like it, move on.” First, most people can’t just leave their jobs. Second, taken to its logical conclusion, no job need ever be improved, and nobody can complain about pay. The economic figures are indisputable: since Reagan all economic gains in the US have been diverted to the rich while the middle class and poor have been squeezed. But sure, continue to demean the working folks while being a shill for the rich and powerful.
The most vocal of these particular working folk are the rich, just like the multi-millionaire actresses that go on about pay gaps.snipThe volume and severity of the reports is minuscule for the size of the company. It all comes across as another example of modern day manufactured outrage by attention-seeking social media inhabitants.
Alex_V said:One-sided tosh. Conservatives like to say that only Hollywood stars complain about capitalist exploitation. They paint them as “out-of-touch elites,” to diminish what they say in the minds of the people they are advocating for. Cleverly turning the class struggle upside-down: “Don’t listen, it’s really the Republicans and the billionaires who are on your side.” First, are the actors not morally compelled to say something about injustice, just as anyone else? Second, should they not use their platform? Who else is on TV in your celebrity-obsessed country? How often does guy-who-sleeps-under-the-bridge get invited to a talk show?
Alex_V said:I’ll give more credence to the complainants.
Alex_V said:I’m sure there’s a good job for you at Amazon’s union-busting department.
As a customer and shareholder, I would prefer Apple announce it is pulling all non retail operations from Texas as soon as possible until they stop suppressing the voting and health rights of its people. Plenty of better places to do business.
Marvin said:Millionaires and billionaires on the left or right advocate for others in words, not actions. They align themselves with the underprivileged to get what they want.
Marvin said:Millionaires and billionaires on the left or right advocate for others in words, not actions. They align themselves with the underprivileged to get what they want. We have a closed economic system, the rich getting rich causes the poor to stay poor. Wealth inequality is about unfair distribution of wealth, it's not possible for the rich to get richer and the poor to get richer at the same time without increasing the supply of money. Things hardly ever change for the better for the people genuinely at the bottom despite the claims of progress whenever the privileged manage to further improve their status
Every company has a budget, when a millionaire actress 'breaks down barriers' and manages to push for a few million more to fight 'injustice', that budget gets taken away from the people doing their makeup and results in fewer jobs, stagnated wages, poorer working conditions for the people at the bottom.
The rich never caused the recent changes to wages due to the pandemic, that was workers directly making a decision that what companies were offering wasn't good enough.
Complainants aren't automatically credible just because people are biased against big companies.
Amazon is an example of genuine exploitation that needs to be sorted out. The nature of their business is that profit increases through improved efficiency in logistics and that directly comes with a human cost. The same applies to some of the companies that Apple uses to make their products.
These overpaid complainers are not them and aren't representing them. These are people making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year complaining that they think they aren't getting paid enough and they don't even know for sure because they don't know everyone else's salaries.