elijahg said: Well except it is. Just because you are ignorant of something doesn't mean your idea of how it works is right. That is exactly how Siri works with A2DP devices. The pause is required because that's the time needed to switch to headset mode. Why is it when I say "Hey siri play highway to hell" through my car's microphone, all it hears is "Hey siri" and "hell"?
Do you have "Hey Siri" turned on, on your phone? Is your phone usually within listening distance when you want to invoke Siri?
Then "Hey Siri" should "just work". In both of our vehicles (2014 Nissan Leaf & 2012 Toyota Prius) & a rental 2021 Nissan Kicks, my iPhone is paired with the car. If my phone is on the console, in the passenger seat, etc. (so it can hear "Hey Sir"), I can just say "Hey siri play highway to hell", and the iPhone picks it up perfectly well, and does the command after switching to the car audio. The Nissan Kicks renal did have CarPlay, and I used it sometimes (had to plug phone in), and with or without using CarPlay, "Hey Siri" just worked as long as the iPhone could hear me.
This didn't always work (it used to work as you explained), and I'm not sure when it started working. It might have been iOS 14. If your OS is up to date, you might want to give it a try.
I do have it on. I used Hey Siri the other day in my car, and it was just the same delayed "bonk bonk" as it's always been.
Siri says more about the astonishing lack of vision in Apple's management than any other product. Siri could have been the answer to problem of how to access the vast number of options and features in the operating system and apps without wading through many levels of menus and screens. Siri could have been a way to easily converse with your devices to get your work done. It could have run from your home hub while you are at home to keep everything you say private. It could have been the solution Apple was looking for to make everything fully accessible to the deaf and anyone else who could not look at or touch a screen such as people who are driving. Siri could have been the center of your home control making it easy to adjust the thermostat, brew your morning coffee or turn off the lights.
Siri is none of those things because of Apple management's total lack of imagination and need for absolute control over everything. This is why Siri's voice recognition has to phone back to Apple's own servers exposing everything you say potential security threats. This is why there is no open standard for home control that Apple's products can use. It is why you can't access vital hardware and software features of your iPhone with a simple voice command. The creative, surprising, amazing Apple vision died with Steve Jobs. What's left is a greedy husk of a company that is only interested in short term profit.
With iOS 15, Apple does do some on device processing as it allows for better privacy, security, less bandwidth and less server usage/dependance. Voice processing is a very complex process, with all the languages and dialects out there. Tell me, what competitor, uses on device processing? Do you expect the $25 smart speaker to have on device processing? As has been discussed many times before, Siri isn't as advanced because Apple cared about privacy and didn't vacuum up all the voice sales they could, like their competitor. Then you have the people who don't learn how to use it, get frustrated and turn it off..... which leads to Siri not learning more. The open standard for home control, is Thread that Apple does want to use. Only interested in short term profit? Right because donating to causes, running classes, Apple Arcade, Apple News, Apple TV are all short term profits.
I have hey Siri turn off for most of my stuff. I hit a button, and most stuff is done correctly.
Well Mac OS 9 had on-device voice processing, as did the iPhone 1/3G/3Gs. So you're saying only now has the A15 caught up with the 150MHz PPC603 CPU in Macs from 1996? Oh and you must have missed the news where it turned out Apple was surreptitiously sending voice recordings to be reviewed without customer's permission. What's that about privacy again?
You should get your fact straight about that. It was in the agreement youread (right?) when you enabled Siri. It was on by default.
As it should have been from the beginning, it is now opt-in & you are asked when/if you enable Siri.
Yes because everyone reads those agreements. Doesn't mean it was OK that Cook was championing privacy when their very own T&Cs at the time vaguely mentioned "certain information such as your name, contacts, music you listen to, and searches" would be sent, nothing about actual voice recordings and certainly nothing about them being reviewed by a human. Which makes it surreptitious.
Siri says more about the astonishing lack of vision in Apple's management than any other product. Siri could have been the answer to problem of how to access the vast number of options and features in the operating system and apps without wading through many levels of menus and screens. Siri could have been a way to easily converse with your devices to get your work done. It could have run from your home hub while you are at home to keep everything you say private. It could have been the solution Apple was looking for to make everything fully accessible to the deaf and anyone else who could not look at or touch a screen such as people who are driving. Siri could have been the center of your home control making it easy to adjust the thermostat, brew your morning coffee or turn off the lights.
Siri is none of those things because of Apple management's total lack of imagination and need for absolute control over everything. This is why Siri's voice recognition has to phone back to Apple's own servers exposing everything you say potential security threats. This is why there is no open standard for home control that Apple's products can use. It is why you can't access vital hardware and software features of your iPhone with a simple voice command. The creative, surprising, amazing Apple vision died with Steve Jobs. What's left is a greedy husk of a company that is only interested in short term profit.
With iOS 15, Apple does do some on device processing as it allows for better privacy, security, less bandwidth and less server usage/dependance. Voice processing is a very complex process, with all the languages and dialects out there. Tell me, what competitor, uses on device processing? Do you expect the $25 smart speaker to have on device processing? As has been discussed many times before, Siri isn't as advanced because Apple cared about privacy and didn't vacuum up all the voice sales they could, like their competitor. Then you have the people who don't learn how to use it, get frustrated and turn it off..... which leads to Siri not learning more. The open standard for home control, is Thread that Apple does want to use. Only interested in short term profit? Right because donating to causes, running classes, Apple Arcade, Apple News, Apple TV are all short term profits.
I have hey Siri turn off for most of my stuff. I hit a button, and most stuff is done correctly.
Well Mac OS 9 had on-device voice processing, as did the iPhone 1/3G/3Gs. So you're saying only now has the A15 caught up with the 150MHz PPC603 CPU in Macs from 1996? Oh and you must have missed the news where it turned out Apple was surreptitiously sending voice recordings to be reviewed without customer's permission. What's that about privacy again?
You should get your fact straight about that. It was in the agreement youread (right?) when you enabled Siri. It was on by default.
As it should have been from the beginning, it is now opt-in & you are asked when/if you enable Siri.
Yes because everyone reads those agreements. Doesn't mean it was OK that Cook was championing privacy when their very own T&Cs at the time vaguely mentioned "certain information such as your name, contacts, music you listen to, and searches" would be sent, nothing about actual voice recordings and certainly nothing about them being reviewed by a human. Which makes it surreptitious.
Did you actually read the T&C? It was much more specific about the Siri requests.
Siri says more about the astonishing lack of vision in Apple's management than any other product. Siri could have been the answer to problem of how to access the vast number of options and features in the operating system and apps without wading through many levels of menus and screens. Siri could have been a way to easily converse with your devices to get your work done. It could have run from your home hub while you are at home to keep everything you say private. It could have been the solution Apple was looking for to make everything fully accessible to the deaf and anyone else who could not look at or touch a screen such as people who are driving. Siri could have been the center of your home control making it easy to adjust the thermostat, brew your morning coffee or turn off the lights.
Siri is none of those things because of Apple management's total lack of imagination and need for absolute control over everything. This is why Siri's voice recognition has to phone back to Apple's own servers exposing everything you say potential security threats. This is why there is no open standard for home control that Apple's products can use. It is why you can't access vital hardware and software features of your iPhone with a simple voice command. The creative, surprising, amazing Apple vision died with Steve Jobs. What's left is a greedy husk of a company that is only interested in short term profit.
With iOS 15, Apple does do some on device processing as it allows for better privacy, security, less bandwidth and less server usage/dependance. Voice processing is a very complex process, with all the languages and dialects out there. Tell me, what competitor, uses on device processing? Do you expect the $25 smart speaker to have on device processing? As has been discussed many times before, Siri isn't as advanced because Apple cared about privacy and didn't vacuum up all the voice sales they could, like their competitor. Then you have the people who don't learn how to use it, get frustrated and turn it off..... which leads to Siri not learning more. The open standard for home control, is Thread that Apple does want to use. Only interested in short term profit? Right because donating to causes, running classes, Apple Arcade, Apple News, Apple TV are all short term profits.
I have hey Siri turn off for most of my stuff. I hit a button, and most stuff is done correctly.
Well Mac OS 9 had on-device voice processing, as did the iPhone 1/3G/3Gs. So you're saying only now has the A15 caught up with the 150MHz PPC603 CPU in Macs from 1996? Oh and you must have missed the news where it turned out Apple was surreptitiously sending voice recordings to be reviewed without customer's permission. What's that about privacy again?
You should get your fact straight about that. It was in the agreement youread (right?) when you enabled Siri. It was on by default.
As it should have been from the beginning, it is now opt-in & you are asked when/if you enable Siri.
Yes because everyone reads those agreements. Doesn't mean it was OK that Cook was championing privacy when their very own T&Cs at the time vaguely mentioned "certain information such as your name, contacts, music you listen to, and searches" would be sent, nothing about actual voice recordings and certainly nothing about them being reviewed by a human. Which makes it surreptitious.
Did you actually read the T&C? It was much more specific about the Siri requests.
Yes, and no it was not. Not until it was leaked that Apple was keeping voice recordings, then they changed the T&Cs and added an option to prevent collection of the data. That’s why it was such a big thing, if it was in the T&Cs it wouldn’t have blown up as it did.
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