Like Epic with forcing Apple to allow 3rd-party payments, this EU debacle stinks of banks whining to get access to Apple's hardware.
Android has a different model. Android is just software, so it's up to the phone manufacturer to decide what they can do with NFC capabilities on what is their product. If Samsung for example wants banks to hook into its NFC system, go right ahead.
Apple owns the entire cycle from software to hardware and thus can maintain the control it feels necessary to keep the data of Apple's customers safe and secure. I highly doubt the users of ApplePay are raising any kind of stink about it. It's shameful of the EU to think that Apple should devote resources to keep NFC secure and allow others that have done nothing to use it. Screw the EU, and screw those banks trying to ride Apple's coattail.
If Samsung decided to do the same with their phones, would the EU be banging on Samsung's door?
It has nothing to do with "keeping NFC secure". NFC is just a way to communicate, any security is built on top of that transport. So, if Apple want, they can open their API to allow many different types of applications to use NFC. But they don't. Fair or not? Not up to me to decide.
Like Epic with forcing Apple to allow 3rd-party payments, this EU debacle stinks of banks whining to get access to Apple's hardware.
Android has a different model. Android is just software, so it's up to the phone manufacturer to decide what they can do with NFC capabilities on what is their product. If Samsung for example wants banks to hook into its NFC system, go right ahead.
Apple owns the entire cycle from software to hardware and thus can maintain the control it feels necessary to keep the data of Apple's customers safe and secure. I highly doubt the users of ApplePay are raising any kind of stink about it. It's shameful of the EU to think that Apple should devote resources to keep NFC secure and allow others that have done nothing to use it. Screw the EU, and screw those banks trying to ride Apple's coattail.
If Samsung decided to do the same with their phones, would the EU be banging on Samsung's door?
It has nothing to do with "keeping NFC secure". NFC is just a way to communicate, any security is built on top of that transport.
The rest of the world (especially the US & EU) should tread lightly with respect to Apple. If they start dismantling the company, they’ll go broke. They don’t seem to have any other means of generating funds other than these endless lawsuits where Apple is always paying out.
Endless lawsuits?
How many can you name, and of those, how many have consumer interest in their sights?
All of them?
You have a problem with government investigating these issues and trying to better the position of consumers?
Are you saying that Apple should let you buy a device with NFC capability and not only decide if you can use it, but if you do, only through an Apple service where Apple takes a cut?
In my book, if Apple wants to use my NFC based transactions as a vehicle for revenues it should ask me first and give me the opportunity to use that NFC capability with other entities.
Especially as these competition restrictions (that is what they are) are not communicated to the user prior to purchase.
You may be fine with that but you shouldn't be surprised if the EU takes a different view.
Now, take a look at the EU budget and remind me how of it is generated from fines against Apple.
Looks like the moat is drying up and the walls are falling around Apple's closed ecosystem. The dutch antitrust authorities have reportedly found Apple guilty of anticompetitive conduct in AppStore payment rules. Apple has supposedly filed an injunction to keep the news secret until all legal objections have been answered. No doubt an AI article will come.
Here we go again. Why not end the possibility for companies to compete at all and just force every company to develop, produce and support every other company´s product too. I´m so tired of a EU that completely lost it´s purpose.
Like Epic with forcing Apple to allow 3rd-party payments, this EU debacle stinks of banks whining to get access to Apple's hardware.
Android has a different model. Android is just software, so it's up to the phone manufacturer to decide what they can do with NFC capabilities on what is their product. If Samsung for example wants banks to hook into its NFC system, go right ahead.
Apple owns the entire cycle from software to hardware and thus can maintain the control it feels necessary to keep the data of Apple's customers safe and secure. I highly doubt the users of ApplePay are raising any kind of stink about it. It's shameful of the EU to think that Apple should devote resources to keep NFC secure and allow others that have done nothing to use it. Screw the EU, and screw those banks trying to ride Apple's coattail.
If Samsung decided to do the same with their phones, would the EU be banging on Samsung's door?
It has nothing to do with "keeping NFC secure". NFC is just a way to communicate, any security is built on top of that transport. So, if Apple want, they can open their API to allow many different types of applications to use NFC. But they don't. Fair or not? Not up to me to decide.
Like Epic with forcing Apple to allow 3rd-party payments, this EU debacle stinks of banks whining to get access to Apple's hardware.
Android has a different model. Android is just software, so it's up to the phone manufacturer to decide what they can do with NFC capabilities on what is their product. If Samsung for example wants banks to hook into its NFC system, go right ahead.
Apple owns the entire cycle from software to hardware and thus can maintain the control it feels necessary to keep the data of Apple's customers safe and secure. I highly doubt the users of ApplePay are raising any kind of stink about it. It's shameful of the EU to think that Apple should devote resources to keep NFC secure and allow others that have done nothing to use it. Screw the EU, and screw those banks trying to ride Apple's coattail.
If Samsung decided to do the same with their phones, would the EU be banging on Samsung's door?
It has nothing to do with "keeping NFC secure". NFC is just a way to communicate, any security is built on top of that transport. So, if Apple want, they can open their API to allow many different types of applications to use NFC. But they don't. Fair or not? Not up to me to decide.
And what sits on top of NFC within iOS? Oh, yeah, Applepay. I guess perhaps that IS Apple’s way of keeping it secure, huh?
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So, if Apple want, they can open their API to allow many different types of applications to use NFC. But they don't.
Fair or not? Not up to me to decide.
How many can you name, and of those, how many have consumer interest in their sights?
All of them?
You have a problem with government investigating these issues and trying to better the position of consumers?
Are you saying that Apple should let you buy a device with NFC capability and not only decide if you can use it, but if you do, only through an Apple service where Apple takes a cut?
In my book, if Apple wants to use my NFC based transactions as a vehicle for revenues it should ask me first and give me the opportunity to use that NFC capability with other entities.
Especially as these competition restrictions (that is what they are) are not communicated to the user prior to purchase.
You may be fine with that but you shouldn't be surprised if the EU takes a different view.
Now, take a look at the EU budget and remind me how of it is generated from fines against Apple.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-dutch-watchdog-finds-apple-app-store-payment-rules-anti-competitive-2021-10-07/
EDIT: Here's the AppleInsider article posted this morning:
https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/224445/apple-must-make-changes-to-in-app-payment-requirement-dutch-antitrust-agency-says#latest
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So, if Apple want, they can open their API to allow many different types of applications to use NFC. But they don't.
Fair or not? Not up to me to decide.
And the EU have a responsibility to regulate commerce, so if they think a behaviour is anti- competitive then it very much is their business.
Saying something confidently does not make it true.