TSMC omits customer data in answers to US chip shortage inquiry

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  • Reply 21 of 25
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    crowley said:
    viclauyyc said:
    I wonder what will US say when China request the same data. China has more reason to request the data than US. Huge number of manufacturers are located in China and the chip shortage affected China way more than US.  
    That's actually a fair point, but as you indicated, most chip manufacturing, even for US companies (Nvidia, Qualcomm, etc.) actually occurs in China. Even Intel makes some chips in China, not to mentions its fabs in Israel and Ireland.
    This is not true.
    Correct, I understated it. Nvidia and AMD make 100% of their GPUs in China.
    Not quite true. Historically Taiwan is a part of China. But politically it is not. 
    Historically doesn't count for shit.
    Of course, history is against US national interest. 
    Not my concern whether it is or isn’t. But it still doesn’t count. Taiwan has historically not been part of China for longer periods than it was.  That also doesn’t count, but it informs why the reciprocal doesn’t count. 

    Hands off.
    muthuk_vanalingam
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  • Reply 22 of 25
    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    viclauyyc said:
    I wonder what will US say when China request the same data. China has more reason to request the data than US. Huge number of manufacturers are located in China and the chip shortage affected China way more than US.  
    That's actually a fair point, but as you indicated, most chip manufacturing, even for US companies (Nvidia, Qualcomm, etc.) actually occurs in China. Even Intel makes some chips in China, not to mentions its fabs in Israel and Ireland.
    This is not true.
    Correct, I understated it. Nvidia and AMD make 100% of their GPUs in China.
    Not quite true. Historically Taiwan is a part of China. But politically it is not. 
    Historically doesn't count for shit.
    Of course, history is against US national interest. 
    Not my concern whether it is or isn’t. But it still doesn’t count. Taiwan has historically not been part of China for longer periods than it was.  That also doesn’t count, but it informs why the reciprocal doesn’t count. 

    Hands off.
    Your history of Taiwan is wrong. You are being fed with wrong information. It is pity.
    williamlondon
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  • Reply 23 of 25
    So, whose side is TSMC on?
    Our hubris tells us that they're on our side.  But hubris is often based on denial and selective blindness.
    TSMC is on the side of shareholders. Majority of its shares are held by Americans. 
    williamlondon
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  • Reply 24 of 25
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    viclauyyc said:
    I wonder what will US say when China request the same data. China has more reason to request the data than US. Huge number of manufacturers are located in China and the chip shortage affected China way more than US.  
    That's actually a fair point, but as you indicated, most chip manufacturing, even for US companies (Nvidia, Qualcomm, etc.) actually occurs in China. Even Intel makes some chips in China, not to mentions its fabs in Israel and Ireland.
    This is not true.
    Correct, I understated it. Nvidia and AMD make 100% of their GPUs in China.
    Not quite true. Historically Taiwan is a part of China. But politically it is not. 
    Historically doesn't count for shit.
    Of course, history is against US national interest. 
    Not my concern whether it is or isn’t. But it still doesn’t count. Taiwan has historically not been part of China for longer periods than it was.  That also doesn’t count, but it informs why the reciprocal doesn’t count. 

    Hands off.
    Your history of Taiwan is wrong. You are being fed with wrong information. It is pity.
    You want to claim that Taiwan has been part of China for the majority of history?  Good luck with that.
    tmay
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  • Reply 25 of 25
    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    viclauyyc said:
    I wonder what will US say when China request the same data. China has more reason to request the data than US. Huge number of manufacturers are located in China and the chip shortage affected China way more than US.  
    That's actually a fair point, but as you indicated, most chip manufacturing, even for US companies (Nvidia, Qualcomm, etc.) actually occurs in China. Even Intel makes some chips in China, not to mentions its fabs in Israel and Ireland.
    This is not true.
    Correct, I understated it. Nvidia and AMD make 100% of their GPUs in China.
    Not quite true. Historically Taiwan is a part of China. But politically it is not. 
    Historically doesn't count for shit.
    Of course, history is against US national interest. 
    Not my concern whether it is or isn’t. But it still doesn’t count. Taiwan has historically not been part of China for longer periods than it was.  That also doesn’t count, but it informs why the reciprocal doesn’t count. 

    Hands off.
    Your history of Taiwan is wrong. You are being fed with wrong information. It is pity.
    You want to claim that Taiwan has been part of China for the majority of history?  Good luck with that.
    Of course. I count the times that Taiwan was administered by a government. Without a government it is meaningless to talk whether Taiwan is a part of China.
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