Apple loses second key chip engineer, this time to Microsoft

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  • Reply 41 of 45
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    crowley said:
    felix01 said:
    Gotta pay 'em to keep 'em. Competitors are hungry for top talent. 

    As Steve pointed out:  "A Players" don't chase money.  They chase challenges and an environment that supports their ability to create great things.  As with America's great industrialists:  the money was just a way of keeping score.

    Apple just poured a LOT of resources into a CPU for the low-profit Mac where it will take years if not decades to recover their investment while the product matures and incorporates itself fully into Apple's ecosystem.   So, most likely Apple is wisely pulling back from that high cost push -- and the A Players are headed out to where the action is.
    I have heard some people left silicon valley because it is unAmerican.
    Sounds like nonsense, since Silicon Valley is a native American sector. Sounds like you may be butthurt about conservative politics and are trying to blame US tech for it?
    You do not live in Silicon Valley and you are not native American. You don't know Silicon Valley. Twenty years ago people in southern California don't know where is Silicon Valley. 
    Twenty years ago people in Southern California almost certainly knew where Silicon Valley was.  And why is that even relevant?

    Do just shut up, you absolute offal spewing waste of time and effort.
    I am talking about truth. They only know cities like San Jose. During the dot com bubble in late 1990, there are news that many people in Silicon Valley earning much more than defense industry engineers in southern California. These people are not happy. Today, after twenty years the cycle rotates back. Silicon Valley becomes supper rich again. There is a news recently that a house with about 1300 sq ft was sold for $2.68 million. 
    Quit this noise.  I don't care that you've been down another wikipedia trail and found out some things.  It's nothing to do with Apple losing an engineer to Microsoft.  Just shut up.
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  • Reply 42 of 45
    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    felix01 said:
    Gotta pay 'em to keep 'em. Competitors are hungry for top talent. 

    As Steve pointed out:  "A Players" don't chase money.  They chase challenges and an environment that supports their ability to create great things.  As with America's great industrialists:  the money was just a way of keeping score.

    Apple just poured a LOT of resources into a CPU for the low-profit Mac where it will take years if not decades to recover their investment while the product matures and incorporates itself fully into Apple's ecosystem.   So, most likely Apple is wisely pulling back from that high cost push -- and the A Players are headed out to where the action is.
    I have heard some people left silicon valley because it is unAmerican.
    Sounds like nonsense, since Silicon Valley is a native American sector. Sounds like you may be butthurt about conservative politics and are trying to blame US tech for it?
    You do not live in Silicon Valley and you are not native American. You don't know Silicon Valley. Twenty years ago people in southern California don't know where is Silicon Valley. 
    Twenty years ago people in Southern California almost certainly knew where Silicon Valley was.  And why is that even relevant?

    Do just shut up, you absolute offal spewing waste of time and effort.
    I am talking about truth. They only know cities like San Jose. During the dot com bubble in late 1990, there are news that many people in Silicon Valley earning much more than defense industry engineers in southern California. These people are not happy. Today, after twenty years the cycle rotates back. Silicon Valley becomes supper rich again. There is a news recently that a house with about 1300 sq ft was sold for $2.68 million. 
    Quit this noise.  I don't care that you've been down another wikipedia trail and found out some things.  It's nothing to do with Apple losing an engineer to Microsoft.  Just shut up.
    After my analysis, he quits because he does not like the culture in Silicon Valley. You are desperately trying to deny it. Where do you live?
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  • Reply 43 of 45
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    felix01 said:
    Gotta pay 'em to keep 'em. Competitors are hungry for top talent. 

    As Steve pointed out:  "A Players" don't chase money.  They chase challenges and an environment that supports their ability to create great things.  As with America's great industrialists:  the money was just a way of keeping score.

    Apple just poured a LOT of resources into a CPU for the low-profit Mac where it will take years if not decades to recover their investment while the product matures and incorporates itself fully into Apple's ecosystem.   So, most likely Apple is wisely pulling back from that high cost push -- and the A Players are headed out to where the action is.
    I have heard some people left silicon valley because it is unAmerican.
    Sounds like nonsense, since Silicon Valley is a native American sector. Sounds like you may be butthurt about conservative politics and are trying to blame US tech for it?
    You do not live in Silicon Valley and you are not native American. You don't know Silicon Valley. Twenty years ago people in southern California don't know where is Silicon Valley. 
    Twenty years ago people in Southern California almost certainly knew where Silicon Valley was.  And why is that even relevant?

    Do just shut up, you absolute offal spewing waste of time and effort.
    I am talking about truth. They only know cities like San Jose. During the dot com bubble in late 1990, there are news that many people in Silicon Valley earning much more than defense industry engineers in southern California. These people are not happy. Today, after twenty years the cycle rotates back. Silicon Valley becomes supper rich again. There is a news recently that a house with about 1300 sq ft was sold for $2.68 million. 
    Quit this noise.  I don't care that you've been down another wikipedia trail and found out some things.  It's nothing to do with Apple losing an engineer to Microsoft.  Just shut up.
    After my analysis, he quits because he does not like the culture in Silicon Valley. You are desperately trying to deny it. Where do you live?
    I'm not trying to deny anything, I'm telling you to shut up because you're spouting barely comprehensible and mostly irrelevant drivel.
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 44 of 45
    GeorgeBMacgeorgebmac Posts: 11,421member
    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    felix01 said:
    Gotta pay 'em to keep 'em. Competitors are hungry for top talent. 

    As Steve pointed out:  "A Players" don't chase money.  They chase challenges and an environment that supports their ability to create great things.  As with America's great industrialists:  the money was just a way of keeping score.

    Apple just poured a LOT of resources into a CPU for the low-profit Mac where it will take years if not decades to recover their investment while the product matures and incorporates itself fully into Apple's ecosystem.   So, most likely Apple is wisely pulling back from that high cost push -- and the A Players are headed out to where the action is.
    I have heard some people left silicon valley because it is unAmerican.
    Sounds like nonsense, since Silicon Valley is a native American sector. Sounds like you may be butthurt about conservative politics and are trying to blame US tech for it?
    You do not live in Silicon Valley and you are not native American. You don't know Silicon Valley. Twenty years ago people in southern California don't know where is Silicon Valley. 
    Twenty years ago people in Southern California almost certainly knew where Silicon Valley was.  And why is that even relevant?

    Do just shut up, you absolute offal spewing waste of time and effort.
    I am talking about truth. They only know cities like San Jose. During the dot com bubble in late 1990, there are news that many people in Silicon Valley earning much more than defense industry engineers in southern California. These people are not happy. Today, after twenty years the cycle rotates back. Silicon Valley becomes supper rich again. There is a news recently that a house with about 1300 sq ft was sold for $2.68 million. 
    Quit this noise.  I don't care that you've been down another wikipedia trail and found out some things.  It's nothing to do with Apple losing an engineer to Microsoft.  Just shut up.
    After my analysis, he quits because he does not like the culture in Silicon Valley. You are desperately trying to deny it. Where do you live?

    Ahhh!  So THAT's where you've been coming from:  He didn't quit Apple, he quit Silicon Valley (aka Autistic Valley).

    Perhaps.  He wouldn't be the first and he won't be the last.   In his authorized biography Steve spoke about how growing up in that area shaped him and his interests.  It has been a special place filled with special people for the better part of a century (certainly VERY different from the steel town I grew up in) one where nerds & geeks feel at home, hold a place of honor and openly and proudly display their interests.  But, it's not for everybody.

    Personally, I doubt that was the reason for this particular guy.  But a good theory.
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  • Reply 45 of 45
    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    felix01 said:
    Gotta pay 'em to keep 'em. Competitors are hungry for top talent. 

    As Steve pointed out:  "A Players" don't chase money.  They chase challenges and an environment that supports their ability to create great things.  As with America's great industrialists:  the money was just a way of keeping score.

    Apple just poured a LOT of resources into a CPU for the low-profit Mac where it will take years if not decades to recover their investment while the product matures and incorporates itself fully into Apple's ecosystem.   So, most likely Apple is wisely pulling back from that high cost push -- and the A Players are headed out to where the action is.
    I have heard some people left silicon valley because it is unAmerican.
    Sounds like nonsense, since Silicon Valley is a native American sector. Sounds like you may be butthurt about conservative politics and are trying to blame US tech for it?
    You do not live in Silicon Valley and you are not native American. You don't know Silicon Valley. Twenty years ago people in southern California don't know where is Silicon Valley. 
    Twenty years ago people in Southern California almost certainly knew where Silicon Valley was.  And why is that even relevant?

    Do just shut up, you absolute offal spewing waste of time and effort.
    I am talking about truth. They only know cities like San Jose. During the dot com bubble in late 1990, there are news that many people in Silicon Valley earning much more than defense industry engineers in southern California. These people are not happy. Today, after twenty years the cycle rotates back. Silicon Valley becomes supper rich again. There is a news recently that a house with about 1300 sq ft was sold for $2.68 million. 
    Quit this noise.  I don't care that you've been down another wikipedia trail and found out some things.  It's nothing to do with Apple losing an engineer to Microsoft.  Just shut up.
    After my analysis, he quits because he does not like the culture in Silicon Valley. You are desperately trying to deny it. Where do you live?

    Ahhh!  So THAT's where you've been coming from:  He didn't quit Apple, he quit Silicon Valley (aka Autistic Valley).

    Perhaps.  He wouldn't be the first and he won't be the last.   In his authorized biography Steve spoke about how growing up in that area shaped him and his interests.  It has been a special place filled with special people for the better part of a century (certainly VERY different from the steel town I grew up in) one where nerds & geeks feel at home, hold a place of honor and openly and proudly display their interests.  But, it's not for everybody.

    Personally, I doubt that was the reason for this particular guy.  But a good theory.
    I lived in both southern California and northern California. Although they belong to the same state, they have completely different culture. At Silicon Valley, restaurants are crowed at lunch time during weekday. Teams from different companies eat together to celebrate something. At weekends, freeways are much less crowded because most engineers stay at home to enjoy family time. At southern California, freeways are still crowded after 10PM every day because of tourists. 

    But most northern California engineers do not like to visit southern California. This is one reason the high speed trains development is moving very slowly. 
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