There might be 3,000 construction jobs, but not once the fab complex is up and running. A fab has very little to do with "electronics". It is a hazardous chemical plant and the fab itself is but a giant machine. Raw materials in, wafers out. And those raw materials are some of the purest, most potent chemicals available. As far as providing "tech" jobs, the chip design work isn't being done on-site, nor is the design of the ASML-supplied fab equipment. There might be a small workforce to do maintenance, but the goal of modern fab design is to have no humans inside the facility at all.
This is Intel getting free land, free infrastructure, and taxpayer subsidized workers.
Labor wise, that is what most modern factories look like: A steel mill used to employ 4,000, now its 400.
Or, reading about a mask factory opening up in the U.S.: the owner was asked how he could compete with foreign labor. His answer: "It will be fully automated, there is no labor".
That may be the future of American manufacturing: educated, skilled workers running automated processes.
And, it won't be just factories: take a future hypothetical of distribution from when a widget arrives in port on the west coast: -- automated mechanics transfer it onto a self driving truck
-- the self-driving truck hauls it to an Amazon warehouse near Cleveland
-- automated mechanics transfer it into the warehouse and onto a shelf
-- An Amazon customer places an online order for the widget
-- automated mechanics load it onto a self driving delivery truck
-- when it arrives at the customer's house, a drone or robot delivers it from the truck to the person's porch.
"Look ma! No Hands!'
But somebody had to run, manage and maintain all that automated equipment.
Yeh, it will take decades till that happens. But, like dozens of coal miners with a picks & shovels first got replaced by drills, wall scrapers and conveyor belts, then that all got replaced by enormous earth moving equipment that just whacks off the top of the mountain and scoops up the coal, it will happen slowly but surely.
American workers mostly got replaced by automation not foreign competition -- and that trend will be accelerating. We need to prepare an educated, skilled work force for our future if we are to remain competitive in the world's markets.
Please just stop. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and are just talking to hear your own voice. I know you fancy yourself a clever person, but this statement is completely false. Leave international economics and geopolitics to people who actually know what they’re talking about, because this statement proves that you have your head in the sand.
There might be 3,000 construction jobs, but not once the fab complex is up and running. A fab has very little to do with "electronics". It is a hazardous chemical plant and the fab itself is but a giant machine. Raw materials in, wafers out. And those raw materials are some of the purest, most potent chemicals available. As far as providing "tech" jobs, the chip design work isn't being done on-site, nor is the design of the ASML-supplied fab equipment. There might be a small workforce to do maintenance, but the goal of modern fab design is to have no humans inside the facility at all.
This is Intel getting free land, free infrastructure, and taxpayer subsidized workers.
Labor wise, that is what most modern factories look like: A steel mill used to employ 4,000, now its 400.
Or, reading about a mask factory opening up in the U.S.: the owner was asked how he could compete with foreign labor. His answer: "It will be fully automated, there is no labor".
That may be the future of American manufacturing: educated, skilled workers running automated processes.
And, it won't be just factories: take a future hypothetical of distribution from when a widget arrives in port on the west coast: -- automated mechanics transfer it onto a self driving truck
-- the self-driving truck hauls it to an Amazon warehouse near Cleveland
-- automated mechanics transfer it into the warehouse and onto a shelf
-- An Amazon customer places an online order for the widget
-- automated mechanics load it onto a self driving delivery truck
-- when it arrives at the customer's house, a drone or robot delivers it from the truck to the person's porch.
"Look ma! No Hands!'
But somebody had to run, manage and maintain all that automated equipment.
Yeh, it will take decades till that happens. But, like dozens of coal miners with a picks & shovels first got replaced by drills, wall scrapers and conveyor belts, then that all got replaced by enormous earth moving equipment that just whacks off the top of the mountain and scoops up the coal, it will happen slowly but surely.
American workers mostly got replaced by automation not foreign competition -- and that trend will be accelerating. We need to prepare an educated, skilled work force for our future if we are to remain competitive in the world's markets.
Please just stop. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and are just talking to hear your own voice. I know you fancy yourself a clever person, but this statement is completely false. Leave international economics and geopolitics to people who actually know what they’re talking about, because this statement proves that you have your head in the sand.
It's only false to one who's head is filled with propaganda and false hope.
Even when American jobs went overseas they did so because of automation: while the American steel industry was making steel in inefficient mills using 100 year old technology, Japan outcompeted us using modern, highly efficient mills. The same was true in electronics and automobiles where they also ate our lunch.
A U T O M A T I O N ! ! !
.... Learn how to spell it. The future of our nation depends on it.
There might be 3,000 construction jobs, but not once the fab complex is up and running. A fab has very little to do with "electronics". It is a hazardous chemical plant and the fab itself is but a giant machine. Raw materials in, wafers out. And those raw materials are some of the purest, most potent chemicals available. As far as providing "tech" jobs, the chip design work isn't being done on-site, nor is the design of the ASML-supplied fab equipment. There might be a small workforce to do maintenance, but the goal of modern fab design is to have no humans inside the facility at all.
This is Intel getting free land, free infrastructure, and taxpayer subsidized workers.
Labor wise, that is what most modern factories look like: A steel mill used to employ 4,000, now its 400.
Or, reading about a mask factory opening up in the U.S.: the owner was asked how he could compete with foreign labor. His answer: "It will be fully automated, there is no labor".
That may be the future of American manufacturing: educated, skilled workers running automated processes.
And, it won't be just factories: take a future hypothetical of distribution from when a widget arrives in port on the west coast: -- automated mechanics transfer it onto a self driving truck
-- the self-driving truck hauls it to an Amazon warehouse near Cleveland
-- automated mechanics transfer it into the warehouse and onto a shelf
-- An Amazon customer places an online order for the widget
-- automated mechanics load it onto a self driving delivery truck
-- when it arrives at the customer's house, a drone or robot delivers it from the truck to the person's porch.
"Look ma! No Hands!'
But somebody had to run, manage and maintain all that automated equipment.
Yeh, it will take decades till that happens. But, like dozens of coal miners with a picks & shovels first got replaced by drills, wall scrapers and conveyor belts, then that all got replaced by enormous earth moving equipment that just whacks off the top of the mountain and scoops up the coal, it will happen slowly but surely.
American workers mostly got replaced by automation not foreign competition -- and that trend will be accelerating. We need to prepare an educated, skilled work force for our future if we are to remain competitive in the world's markets.
Please just stop. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and are just talking to hear your own voice. I know you fancy yourself a clever person, but this statement is completely false. Leave international economics and geopolitics to people who actually know what they’re talking about, because this statement proves that you have your head in the sand.
What's completely false about it? I disagree with George a lot of the time, but this one seems fairly on target.
There might be 3,000 construction jobs, but not once the fab complex is up and running. A fab has very little to do with "electronics". It is a hazardous chemical plant and the fab itself is but a giant machine. Raw materials in, wafers out. And those raw materials are some of the purest, most potent chemicals available. As far as providing "tech" jobs, the chip design work isn't being done on-site, nor is the design of the ASML-supplied fab equipment. There might be a small workforce to do maintenance, but the goal of modern fab design is to have no humans inside the facility at all.
This is Intel getting free land, free infrastructure, and taxpayer subsidized workers.
Labor wise, that is what most modern factories look like: A steel mill used to employ 4,000, now its 400.
Or, reading about a mask factory opening up in the U.S.: the owner was asked how he could compete with foreign labor. His answer: "It will be fully automated, there is no labor".
That may be the future of American manufacturing: educated, skilled workers running automated processes.
And, it won't be just factories: take a future hypothetical of distribution from when a widget arrives in port on the west coast: -- automated mechanics transfer it onto a self driving truck
-- the self-driving truck hauls it to an Amazon warehouse near Cleveland
-- automated mechanics transfer it into the warehouse and onto a shelf
-- An Amazon customer places an online order for the widget
-- automated mechanics load it onto a self driving delivery truck
-- when it arrives at the customer's house, a drone or robot delivers it from the truck to the person's porch.
"Look ma! No Hands!'
But somebody had to run, manage and maintain all that automated equipment.
Yeh, it will take decades till that happens. But, like dozens of coal miners with a picks & shovels first got replaced by drills, wall scrapers and conveyor belts, then that all got replaced by enormous earth moving equipment that just whacks off the top of the mountain and scoops up the coal, it will happen slowly but surely.
American workers mostly got replaced by automation not foreign competition -- and that trend will be accelerating. We need to prepare an educated, skilled work force for our future if we are to remain competitive in the world's markets.
Please just stop. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and are just talking to hear your own voice. I know you fancy yourself a clever person, but this statement is completely false. Leave international economics and geopolitics to people who actually know what they’re talking about, because this statement proves that you have your head in the sand.
It's only false to one who's head is filled with propaganda and false hope.
Even when American jobs went overseas they did so because of automation: while the American steel industry was making steel in inefficient mills using 100 year old technology, Japan outcompeted us using modern, highly efficient mills. The same was true in electronics and automobiles where they also ate our lunch.
A U T O M A T I O N ! ! !
.... Learn how to spell it. The future of our nation depends on it.
The jobs went overseas for slave wages, all those people working at home will soon discover their jobs will be going the way of the Dodo, since 1960 the jobs have been moving out.
The tale of two skillets Lodge is still here no excuses made in America, Wagner (their technique for making skillets was better) of Ohio is gone like Motorola…..
There might be 3,000 construction jobs, but not once the fab complex is up and running. A fab has very little to do with "electronics". It is a hazardous chemical plant and the fab itself is but a giant machine. Raw materials in, wafers out. And those raw materials are some of the purest, most potent chemicals available. As far as providing "tech" jobs, the chip design work isn't being done on-site, nor is the design of the ASML-supplied fab equipment. There might be a small workforce to do maintenance, but the goal of modern fab design is to have no humans inside the facility at all.
This is Intel getting free land, free infrastructure, and taxpayer subsidized workers.
Labor wise, that is what most modern factories look like: A steel mill used to employ 4,000, now its 400.
Or, reading about a mask factory opening up in the U.S.: the owner was asked how he could compete with foreign labor. His answer: "It will be fully automated, there is no labor".
That may be the future of American manufacturing: educated, skilled workers running automated processes.
And, it won't be just factories: take a future hypothetical of distribution from when a widget arrives in port on the west coast: -- automated mechanics transfer it onto a self driving truck
-- the self-driving truck hauls it to an Amazon warehouse near Cleveland
-- automated mechanics transfer it into the warehouse and onto a shelf
-- An Amazon customer places an online order for the widget
-- automated mechanics load it onto a self driving delivery truck
-- when it arrives at the customer's house, a drone or robot delivers it from the truck to the person's porch.
"Look ma! No Hands!'
But somebody had to run, manage and maintain all that automated equipment.
Yeh, it will take decades till that happens. But, like dozens of coal miners with a picks & shovels first got replaced by drills, wall scrapers and conveyor belts, then that all got replaced by enormous earth moving equipment that just whacks off the top of the mountain and scoops up the coal, it will happen slowly but surely.
American workers mostly got replaced by automation not foreign competition -- and that trend will be accelerating. We need to prepare an educated, skilled work force for our future if we are to remain competitive in the world's markets.
Please just stop. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and are just talking to hear your own voice. I know you fancy yourself a clever person, but this statement is completely false. Leave international economics and geopolitics to people who actually know what they’re talking about, because this statement proves that you have your head in the sand.
It's only false to one who's head is filled with propaganda and false hope.
Even when American jobs went overseas they did so because of automation: while the American steel industry was making steel in inefficient mills using 100 year old technology, Japan outcompeted us using modern, highly efficient mills. The same was true in electronics and automobiles where they also ate our lunch.
A U T O M A T I O N ! ! !
.... Learn how to spell it. The future of our nation depends on it.
The jobs went overseas for slave wages, all those people working at home will soon discover their jobs will be going the way of the Dodo, since 1960 the jobs have been moving out.
The tale of two skillets Lodge is still here no excuses made in America, Wagner (their technique for making skillets was better) of Ohio is gone like Motorola…..
Yeh, that's the current excuse. And it has legs and credibility because it holds a smidgen of truth. But, the truth is: like picking tomatoes for $50 a day, few Americans would do it. Meanwhile, industry moves on both here and abroad to automate factories so they produce higher quality goods more consistently and at lower costs.
U.S. Steel, GM and Zenith didn't face bankruptcy because they paid their workers too much (although that was part of the problem) but because Japan made better products faster and cheaper using superior management and manufacturing techniques.
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The jobs went overseas for slave wages, all those people working at home will soon discover their jobs will be going the way of the Dodo, since 1960 the jobs have been moving out.
The tale of two skillets Lodge is still here no excuses made in America, Wagner (their technique for making skillets was better) of Ohio is gone like Motorola…..