She’s only going to get the help she needs if she is forced to stay away from weapons, Apple, and of course Cook. I hope the restraining order will knock some sense into her, but I have a feeling further measures are going to be required.
If she does in fact have any kids, I feel very sorry for them.
“. . . by a Virginia woman who not just broke into his home, . . .” I’m curious about this from the first line of the article. How did she actually get into his home?
Asking for a friend? Why would they ever divulge that information when it could possibly give other criminals bad ideas?
Nope, just wondering how this significant detail was in the article.
Imagine if the genders were reversed. She’s getting a slap on the wrist.
Rubbish, a restraining order is almost always going to be the first judgement in a stalking case where there is no threat to life, irrespective of gender.
Funniest thing I read this week, I was literally laughing.
claimed that she was Cook's wife and that the Apple chief executive was the father to her two twins.
Does she not know that he’s gay? All that stalking and obsession you’d think she at some point in her journey found a reference to that fact. Too funny!
You're aware that being gay does not render one sterile, right? There are many gay men who've fathered children. Some gay men want to father children, and sometimes it happens before they are able to admit or understand their preference.
I am NOT saying that this woman has Cook's kids, at all. At all. But the implication that it can't be true because he's gay is just silly. It's not true because she can't prove it.
This is a direct consequence of society’s cowardice in not making sure people get the medication that they need. It’s not compassionate to let someone refuse treatment (when their disorder prevents them from having the insight to accept treatment), then go on to ruin their lives, and possibly others. Same thing is happening to thousands of homeless people. Society is failing our severely mentally ill population.
As a psych nurse who worked with severely mentally ill people who were living in the community I found that medication can often/usually help -- but its not a miracle cure. None of them are cures. Instead, they just tip the scales enabling the person to live a better, more normal life. They reduce the effects of a mental illness rather than eliminating it or curing it.
Plus, while this woman is clearly delusional, it's not clear exactly what her diagnosis would be -- and therefor which medication (if any) would be prescribed.
So yes, this woman does need help. But exactly what kind of help is unclear. But it is likely that she would require multiple therapies (both medical and psychologic) to reduce or resolve the issues that are driving her to these actions.
In this case, it sounds like the woman should be involuntarily committed to a psych facility for evaluation and treatment under the guideline of being a risk of harming herself or others (in this case, Tim because "I have a gun and I'm running out of patience sounds very much like threatening harm to another).
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As an aside, these cases are examples of why we need police reform. Police, and the laws are not well equipped to deal with these cases -- they just don't have the necessary tools. They usually do the best they can, but... They need to be supplemented by healthcare professionals who are better equipped to deal with situations like this.
This is a direct consequence of society’s cowardice in not making sure people get the medication that they need. It’s not compassionate to let someone refuse treatment (when their disorder prevents them from having the insight to accept treatment), then go on to ruin their lives, and possibly others. Same thing is happening to thousands of homeless people. Society is failing our severely mentally ill population.
First hand experience with a sibling. Because they're an adult we have no power to ensure they take the medications needed. Once stoped they go into a rabid state of accusing everyone of conspiring against them. The smallest thing (offering to go out to lunch) would cause a trigger. Once triggered it's nothing but constant threats and harassment. We're paying for their home/bills to ensure they don't end up in the streets, but constant fights with neighbors means they'll get evicted and in the streets anyway. We're devastated and powerless.
Mental health is completely and utterly ignored in this country.
As a retired psych nurse I find your story not only credible but common and typical of a family living with a person who has a mental illness.
But, from your description, her mental illness is not being ignored*. She is being offered treatment for it. So, what would you have 'the country' do? For many decades we locked people with mental illness away in mental health 'hospitals'. I did my internship in one that, at one time, had 4,000 residents along with its own farm, bakery, butcher shop, police and fire department. It was completely self sufficient and operated by the residents (which was later described as 'slave labor').
That approach has been widely condemned and most of those places shut down. (The one I described is now a recreation area).
But, for some who are unable to live in society, it may have been the best of a lot of bad options.
Would it be the right one for your sibling? That could be debated either way.
* all mental health medications, particularly those dealing with things like schizophrenia and bipolar disorder had nasty side effects while they only mitigate but do not eliminate the condition they are prescribed for. So many/most who are receiving such medications slide in and out of compliance -- and also, the medications tend to get adjusted on a frequent basis.
This is a direct consequence of society’s cowardice in not making sure people get the medication that they need. It’s not compassionate to let someone refuse treatment (when their disorder prevents them from having the insight to accept treatment), then go on to ruin their lives, and possibly others. Same thing is happening to thousands of homeless people. Society is failing our severely mentally ill population.
Well…that’s a small part of it. Not only is the problem much greater than that, it will require more people getting involved in the solution. And throwing money at the issue and thinking one’s part is done is nonsense.
She is completely twisted and insane and I hope she gets a really long time in jail as soon as possible. Let me add something to the discussion here, though, a part of the story which I don’t understand: ”[…] claimed that she was Cook's wife and that the Apple chief executive was the father to her two twins”.
Isn’t the first step to scamming people, to actually tell a convincing or plausible story? He definitely, obviously, 100 % does not have a wife. Yeah, I know, she’s sick and lives in a fantasy world.
A mentally ill person should get a really long jail sentence ASAP? You do realize that mental illness doesn't discriminate ..right? So if this was YOU, a family member or loved one. You would want them or yourself stuffed in a cage for a long time instead of getting the help needed?
Some offensive language was used in emails.. there isn't even an active police investigation on the matter? Yet she should do hard time? What a bizarre way to think this needs to be handled.
The shocking news here is Tim Cook lives in a CONDO? He could literally afford to buy Palo Alto. Let’s hope they up his security detail. Better safe than sorry.
You beat me to it. Really surprised hearing about a condo…. Surely a huge private mansion is not needed by anybody, but a single private home is desirable one would think. The only advantage of a condo would seem to be less time spent in maintenance. It is probably a nice condo though. Maybe has many amenities on the grounds too.
The shocking news here is Tim Cook lives in a CONDO? He could literally afford to buy Palo Alto. Let’s hope they up his security detail. Better safe than sorry.
You beat me to it. Really surprised hearing about a condo…. Surely a huge private mansion is not needed by anybody, but a single private home is desirable one would think. The only advantage of a condo would seem to be less time spent in maintenance. It is probably a nice condo though. Maybe has many amenities on the grounds too.
The shocking news here is Tim Cook lives in a CONDO? He could literally afford to buy Palo Alto. Let’s hope they up his security detail. Better safe than sorry.
You beat me to it. Really surprised hearing about a condo…. Surely a huge private mansion is not needed by anybody, but a single private home is desirable one would think. The only advantage of a condo would seem to be less time spent in maintenance. It is probably a nice condo though. Maybe has many amenities on the grounds too.
He also owns a very large house in Southern California that he bought in the last couple of years, for what it’s worth (what the news is worth, not the house!)
It's always struck me as stramge that health insurance almost never thinks the mind or the teeth are health related.
Yes, especially since so much of mental health issues can be eliminated or modified by brain chemistry, and of course some recognition by society that there actually is a problem deserving of national attention.
Imagine if the genders were reversed. She’s getting a slap on the wrist.
We don't have to imagine. The 2020 case of Rakesh "Rocky" Sharma I referenced earlier is eerily similar. The delusional man made it to Cook's front door and threatened him and other Apple employees dozens of times. He simply was served with a restraining order as in this case.
Funniest thing I read this week, I was literally laughing.
claimed that she was Cook's wife and that the Apple chief executive was the father to her two twins.
Does she not know that he’s gay? All that stalking and obsession you’d think she at some point in her journey found a reference to that fact. Too funny!
Go ahead and laugh—it’s called Mental Health. So many ignorant and uneducated people in this country. This isn’t funny. It’s an epidemic and you and so many others on this thread continue to ignore and laugh and stigmatize. I hope you enjoyed your laugh. Ext time educate yourself. If this country cared about its people and their mental health this wouldn’t be a headline but something to make one ponder, “what help does she need” “I hope she gets the help she needs”. Instead we have people calling her psychotic and hilarious. Check your privilege. You wouldn’t be laughing if this happened to you or a family member. WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS.
HUMAN.
Where’s the compassion for sick people. SMH. I knew I shouldn’t have checked the comments on here 😢💔 (She’s clearly sick and needs help, not to just be another headline, do better AppleInsider)
Funniest thing I read this week, I was literally laughing.
claimed that she was Cook's wife and that the Apple chief executive was the father to her two twins.
Does she not know that he’s gay? All that stalking and obsession you’d think she at some point in her journey found a reference to that fact. Too funny!
Go ahead and laugh—it’s called Mental Health. So many ignorant and uneducated people in this country. This isn’t funny. It’s an epidemic and you and so many others on this thread continue to ignore and laugh and stigmatize. I hope you enjoyed your laugh. Ext time educate yourself. If this country cared about its people and their mental health this wouldn’t be a headline but something to make one ponder, “what help does she need” “I hope she gets the help she needs”. Instead we have people calling her psychotic and hilarious. Check your privilege. You wouldn’t be laughing if this happened to you or a family member. WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS.
HUMAN.
Where’s the compassion for sick people. SMH. I knew I shouldn’t have checked the comments on here 😢💔 (She’s clearly sick and needs help, not to just be another headline, do better AppleInsider)
I was with you -- until the "do better AppleInsider" part. All they did was report what happened. They did their jobs well.
And, by the way, mental illness is not an epidemic. It's always been with us. But we used to just lock them away in asylums (or attics) so few ever saw them. Today, under the misguided assumption that pills can fix mental illnesses (they can't fix it -- but they can help if they are taken despite their nasty side effects), we have tried to keep them living in normal society. Usually that is a good thing. But not always.
And also, don't confuse a person who has been radicalized and activated and filled with hate for a person with a mental illness. The former is MUCH more dangerous to society. Those with a mental illness almost always pose LESS of a danger to society. Too often we here of a mass murder and assume the person has a mental illness -- it is far more likely that they were just pissed off over one thing or another and acting out their frustration and anger.
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Nope, just wondering how this significant detail was in the article.
I am NOT saying that this woman has Cook's kids, at all. At all. But the implication that it can't be true because he's gay is just silly. It's not true because she can't prove it.
https://www.fakesteve.net/2007/11/moshes-team-dispatched-to-asus.html
https://www.urbansplatter.com/2021/06/tim-cook-house-the-palo-alto-condo/
Interesting to see the condo. Thanks for posting.
He also owns a very large house in Southern California that he bought in the last couple of years, for what it’s worth (what the news is worth, not the house!)
(She’s clearly sick and needs help, not to just be another headline, do better AppleInsider)