This is cool. But it shouldn’t replace the ultimate all in one.
Even if it comes out in 2023, an m2 ultra iMac Pro is worth waiting for. Even with the Studio out now.
I really like the studio even though don’t like the way it looks.
But it’s no replacement for a sleek and performant iMac.
You won’t get one. Look at how this is made. The cooling is significant here. Can Apple rejigger this to sit flat in a skinny iMac? Likely not. If they did, it would be another iMac Pro at $4995 again. Is that what you want?
I'm a bit disappointed in the monitor though. I was hoping for a model that was somewhat more expensive, with miniLED, and possibly even 6K, as I’m hoping the new higher end monitor expected to come out will also use MiniLED, an advance over what it has now, and possibly go to 8K, though now I’m reading something about 7k, which is an odd resolution. But I bought this new one anyway. From what I’m reading, it should be somewhat better than the present iMac versions.
I myself am holding out for the 11K version. It must go to 11
Ok, amusing. But realistically, higher rez is serious. When we edit a 2k video, in order to get full rez we need a monitor that will show the full width of the frame while giving enough room at the bottom of the frame to have the editing functions. Same thing for 4k and 8K. Yes, we can get another mo it or for the editing functions, but unless the monitor has the same rez as the frame, we can’t see a pixel to pixel image. That does require a larger monitor. But it’s a real problem that we’ve managed ourselves around, but would prefer not to need to.
so 8k for the pro XDR would be great. Hey, there are 8K TVs out there, and they really have no need for it, but when editing, we do. 6K for a smaller, less expensive display would be great too.
Just to add this. I was a partner in a commercial lab for many years. At peak, we had 32 Macs in our graphics/photo/video department. For the 12 we used for current top flight work, I had bought Barco graphics/photo monitors. In the early 1990s, when I bought them, they were $16,000 each! Expensive. Today, they would go for $32,000, accounting for inflation. And that is what the top monitors for broadcast and other installations go for, though some are as high as $40,000.
I just shake my head at people who just have no understanding why we MUST buy more expensive monitors for serious work that involves any graphics or particularly photo/video work. Just go to the sites of the graphics monitor makers, and the prices can be shocking. Check Eizo, or any other pro monitor maker. And by pro, I don’t mean “business” monitors. Those are usually just stripped down cheaper consumer units.
so if a $300 monitor is all someone can afford, or is willing to spend, then that’s fine. Just don’t expect any professional quality work to be possible in any graphics/photo/video job. It won’t happen. You can’t properly color grade on a monitor like that, no matter how carefully you calibrate it, because the color gamut isn’t good enough for anything beyond sRGB. And even then, it may not be adequate, with blotchiness across the screen, uneven contrast, etc.
Apple’s new monitor gets us an additional 100 nits above what the 27’’ iMac monitor gets, and also 100 bits above what the cheaply made LG 27” does at $1,300. That also a much simpler monitor, with none of the features of this new one. So while it’s not true HDR, it’s better than a lot of others at about the same price.
Well, it looks good on number in the presentation. But let’s not forget the Ultra is comparing with a 2 year old Xeon. 2 years is a lot in computer technology. Not to mention, arguably AMD’s Epyc is the fastest CPU in the PC world.
Let’s hope the future Mac Pro will be even faster with 4/8 sets of CPU. But it might cost $8000 on the entry model.
Intel's offerings until just recently have remained stagnant on the Xeon side. It's only right to compare it with Apple's current Mac Pro offerings, even though it's 2 years old. It's still incredible how Apple has pushed the performance envelope in those two years where Intel was nowhere to be seen.
While AMD's offerings is also impressive, when compared in terms of performance-per-watt, ASi outperforms them both.
Honestly, I don’t understand why Apple is so emphasis on performance/watt. Sure save energy is good and less noise from fan. But no one really care if their $100000 sports car use much less gas than the next car. People care about how fast it can go and how it handle the corner, not gas/miles.
Performance per watt = efficiency
also, a Mac studio or Mac Pro would be more like a semi-truck than a supercar.
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so 8k for the pro XDR would be great. Hey, there are 8K TVs out there, and they really have no need for it, but when editing, we do. 6K for a smaller, less expensive display would be great too.
by the way, Blackmagic shoots at 12k…..
I just shake my head at people who just have no understanding why we MUST buy more expensive monitors for serious work that involves any graphics or particularly photo/video work. Just go to the sites of the graphics monitor makers, and the prices can be shocking. Check Eizo, or any other pro monitor maker. And by pro, I don’t mean “business” monitors. Those are usually just stripped down cheaper consumer units.
so if a $300 monitor is all someone can afford, or is willing to spend, then that’s fine. Just don’t expect any professional quality work to be possible in any graphics/photo/video job. It won’t happen. You can’t properly color grade on a monitor like that, no matter how carefully you calibrate it, because the color gamut isn’t good enough for anything beyond sRGB. And even then, it may not be adequate, with blotchiness across the screen, uneven contrast, etc.
Apple’s new monitor gets us an additional 100 nits above what the 27’’ iMac monitor gets, and also 100 bits above what the cheaply made LG 27” does at $1,300. That also a much simpler monitor, with none of the features of this new one. So while it’s not true HDR, it’s better than a lot of others at about the same price.
also, a Mac studio or Mac Pro would be more like a semi-truck than a supercar.