Anytime AI posts something about Digital ID, I visit this section to see how many comments it took to get to the low-info, ill-informed “No way am I giving my phone to a policeman!” comment.
… lol, we got there quick this time!
Anyhow, I remain super curious to see how a grocery store clerk or rental car attendant is expected to be able to accept / verify these things — anyone have any info on that front?
Anytime AI posts something about Digital ID, I visit this section to see how many comments it took to get to the low-info, ill-informed “No way am I giving my phone to a policeman!” comment.
… lol, we got there quick this time!
Anyhow, I remain super curious to see how a grocery store clerk or rental car attendant is expected to be able to accept / verify these things — anyone have any info on that front?
I have nothing, and I’m not sure that’s really a thing yet. The iOS 15 page at apple.com only mentions using it at certain TSA checkpoints. I’m fine with that and, to me, it’s a great place to start.
ETA: apple.com says this: “ID in Wallet You can add your driver’s license and state ID to Wallet on your iPhone and a paired Apple Watch and present them securely at TSA checkpoints.”
To my knowledge Apple has not positioned this as a replacement for physical ID, and I think many people assume that’s what it is (especially the shortsighted “I’ll never hand my unlocked phone to a cop!” crowd). It is currently a convenience feature that will work in a few places. I expect the number of places that can accept it to grow with time, just like with Apple Pay.
Thanks for that link. I laughed at the “beer vending machines!” line. Yeah, it seems the real barrier to ubiquity will be getting the readers into the hands of the people/businesses that need them.
It’s a similar situation to moving from manually taking credit card information to using a credit card reader but hopefully will transition faster. It seems it will behoove the grocery stores and clubs to move to such a system as it seems to be a better way to accurately verify the cardholder’s age, which will give them more peace of mind that they aren’t selling to a minor who has a fake ID.
It could be that those types of establishments could move quickly to protect themselves and make using it a requirement to purchase over showing a physical ID. Well, one can hope anyway.
I applied through the Wallet app for my AZ driver's license last week. Received a message that I would be informed when it was ready to add. So it's Monday morning and nothing yet. Speed of Government I assume.
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… lol, we got there quick this time!
Anyhow, I remain super curious to see how a grocery store clerk or rental car attendant is expected to be able to accept / verify these things — anyone have any info on that front?
ETA: apple.com says this: “ID in Wallet You can add your driver’s license and state ID to Wallet on your iPhone and a paired Apple Watch and present them securely at TSA checkpoints.”
To my knowledge Apple has not positioned this as a replacement for physical ID, and I think many people assume that’s what it is (especially the shortsighted “I’ll never hand my unlocked phone to a cop!” crowd). It is currently a convenience feature that will work in a few places. I expect the number of places that can accept it to grow with time, just like with Apple Pay.
I agree with you 100%
I’ve followed this topic closely for a long time. My main “concern” (nothing at all related to Apple) is that the consortium of folks who put together the ISO (more at link below) were a bunch of administrators — not product managers. As such, I won’t be surprised if they designed a really good tech spec for
”How should digital ID work?”
… but not,
”How should digital ID work in a world where a lot of people will still carry physical ID?”
Those are very different problems, only one of which accurately reflects the world in which we live. If they solved for the former, then the solution — while super cool on its own — might not work for the grocery store clerks / car rental attendants / club bouncers who have to quickly check mostly physical and some digital IDs. And, if it sucks for them enough, they might just say, “Sorry, I need to see your physical ID” … and then we’re into a decade+ long adoption fight.
https://medium.com/@dkelts.id/mobile-driver-licenses-mdl-how-to-use-iso-18013-5-5a1bbc1a37a3
It’s a similar situation to moving from manually taking credit card information to using a credit card reader but hopefully will transition faster. It seems it will behoove the grocery stores and clubs to move to such a system as it seems to be a better way to accurately verify the cardholder’s age, which will give them more peace of mind that they aren’t selling to a minor who has a fake ID.
It could be that those types of establishments could move quickly to protect themselves and make using it a requirement to purchase over showing a physical ID. Well, one can hope anyway.