Apple corporate staffers have returned to Apple Park, one day a week

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  • Reply 21 of 29
    jasonfj said:
    Utterly pathetic. These people resent the opportunity to collaborate in one of the world’s most desirable workspaces. 

    I’d be there in a shot. 
    Utterly pathetic that these people do not want to waste their precious time of 2-3 hours on a daily basis in commuting to office from home and vice versa and instead want to use it for doing more work or achieve better work-life balance. Pathetic indeed!!! /s
    Bruh. That describes literally everyone. But Apple has stated that there’s nothing like in person collaboration. These folks signed up to work a schedule at a location. COVID overreach allowed them an excuse to stay home. That time is done. Now it’s time to get over the hysteria and get back to work. 

    There is another virus in the world. It’s here to stay. If you get sick, get treated. In the meantime, get vaccinated if you want. But if you don’t work, you don’t get paid. And it’s not up to you to tell your employer how to operate their business. 
    Who said they are NOT working? And how do you PROVE that people spending significant time in traffic on a daily basis would be more productive than the ones who avoid traffic? Do you understand that there is a balance to be achieved on a case to case basis, instead of blanket statements like "Utterly pathetic" to describe people who want to avoid traffic? While it is not up-to the employees to tell Apple/<any other business> on how to operate, it is in Apple/other business interest to look after their employees with empathy and work out a schedule which is mutually beneficial. Making absolute statements like "work at office or go home" will not help any company in the long run. They have to have flexibility in dealing with employees. If you think human talent working in these companies can be manufactured by any machines (the tone of your post and other posters in this forum indicate that), you would be in for shock in real world.
    Do you even read… you misresponded to the last guys post and now to this. 

    no one said they weren’t working. They simply aren’t working as Apple outlined upon hire. A pivot was made when a new virus appeared. Now that we know more, things have gotten normals. Time to get back to the office. Boom. Done. 

    There is no excuse to work from home now. Someone hired you? Great! It’s one of the most successful companies in history? Even better. Now go fulfill your job description and work how and where you are expected to work. Honor your employer who gave you the opportunity over others. 

    To your last point (and total straw man. Again) of course people can not be replaced by machines. A company is only as good as it’s people. But if you start becoming a problem, you CAN be replaced by other good people. 
    I did read. Did you read the line "But if you don’t work, you don’t get paid"???? I replied to this particular point in the post.

    Edit: If you imply that if someone who expresses interest in WFH due to his/her situation should be considered as NOT working by Apple as a default position (basically my way or high way approach), then I am not going to make any further arguments on this topic. If you are not managing people, you better stay away from commenting on this topic because you simply DON'T understand the basics of people management. If you are managing people, good luck to both you and the people whom you manage.
    edited April 2022
  • Reply 22 of 29
    Paul_BPaul_B Posts: 82member
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......


    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.
  • Reply 23 of 29
    XedXed Posts: 2,914member
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......
    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.
    Are you saying that discrimination, especially racism, is just the natural order of things and people should just accept their place in society?
  • Reply 24 of 29
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......

    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.
    Cancer isn't contagious.  Get better analogies for your nonsense.
    ronn
  • Reply 25 of 29
    Paul_BPaul_B Posts: 82member
    Xed said:
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......
    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.
    Are you saying that discrimination, especially racism, is just the natural order of things and people should just accept their place in society?

    What exactly is Racism, many studies have indicated that children are inherently NOT racist, but if you hurt my loved ones or steal my property, vengeance will occur, child or adult.  Think.  Wokism is a cancer of the brain.
  • Reply 26 of 29
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Paul_B said:
    Xed said:
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......
    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.
    Are you saying that discrimination, especially racism, is just the natural order of things and people should just accept their place in society?

    What exactly is Racism, many studies have indicated that children are inherently NOT racist, but if you hurt my loved ones or steal my property, vengeance will occur, child or adult.  Think.  Wokism is a cancer of the brain.
    Alright Batman  :D
    ronn
  • Reply 27 of 29
    jcs2305jcs2305 Posts: 1,342member
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......


    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.

    Paul_B said:
    Xed said:
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......
    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.
    Are you saying that discrimination, especially racism, is just the natural order of things and people should just accept their place in society?

    What exactly is Racism, many studies have indicated that children are inherently NOT racist, but if you hurt my loved ones or steal my property, vengeance will occur, child or adult.  Think.  Wokism is a cancer of the brain.
    As a man of color I have been highly alert to racial prejudice and situations of discrimination in and out of the work place my entire life. I remember a time when woke was actually just a question asking if you were asleep or not. So calling it a cancer of the brain because people are finally becoming aware of the ignorance around them is just a bad look. Just because people waking up to things makes you and other uncomfortable or you are tired of hearing about it doesn't make it bad or a cancer... my god what the hell are people so afraid of?

    Allow me to tell you about racism is since you seem to need enlightenment ..

    • Racism is having your best little buddy growing up call you the N word whenever they were mad and it didn't seem like a big deal
    • Racism is not being able to take a girl you've know for years to a little high school dance because her parents are afraid of what people will think.
    • Racism is a random man approaching you as a 10 or 12 year old kid asking if they had pools for your kind back down closer to my house because they don't want our kind polluting their pools.
    • Racism as a friends mom you have known for 15 years of your life comment that you were becoming very handsome.. to bad there isn't a nice "colored girl" you could go out with.
    • Racism is having a friends father say he Ni**** lipped a cigar like it was just normal conversation... with a whoops as an excuse.

    So I do agree 100,000% that children are NOT inherently born racist.. this type of hateful shit is taught and made to seem "normal" by ignorant and bigoted parents, neighbors and society.. and people are tired of it!


    edited April 2022 Xedronn
  • Reply 28 of 29
    Paul_BPaul_B Posts: 82member
    jcs2305 said:
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......


    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.

    Paul_B said:
    Xed said:
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......
    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.
    Are you saying that discrimination, especially racism, is just the natural order of things and people should just accept their place in society?

    What exactly is Racism, many studies have indicated that children are inherently NOT racist, but if you hurt my loved ones or steal my property, vengeance will occur, child or adult.  Think.  Wokism is a cancer of the brain.
    As a man of color I have been highly alert to racial prejudice and situations of discrimination in and out of the work place my entire life. I remember a time when woke was actually just a question asking if you were asleep or not. So calling it a cancer of the brain because people are finally becoming aware of the ignorance around them is just a bad look. Just because people waking up to things makes you and other uncomfortable or you are tired of hearing about it doesn't make it bad or a cancer... my god what the hell are people so afraid of?

    Allow me to tell you about racism is since you seem to need enlightenment ..

    • Racism is having your best little buddy growing up call you the N word whenever they were mad and it didn't seem like a big deal
    • Racism is not being able to take a girl you've know for years to a little high school dance because her parents are afraid of what people will think.
    • Racism is a random man approaching you as a 10 or 12 year old kid asking if they had pools for your kind back down closer to my house because they don't want our kind polluting their pools.
    • Racism as a friends mom you have known for 15 years of your life comment that you were becoming very handsome.. to bad there isn't a nice "colored girl" you could go out with.
    • Racism is having a friends father say he Ni**** lipped a cigar like it was just normal conversation... with a whoops as an excuse.

    So I do agree 100,000% that children are NOT inherently born racist.. this type of hateful shit is taught and made to seem "normal" by ignorant and bigoted parents, neighbors and society.. and people are tired of it!



    You are going down a slippery slope.  Your theme is censorship, if an individual wants to use a word they can.  Rap music uses the 'N' word the most.  What on God's given earth are you talking about?  If you ban the 'N' word rap music is gone, an the N will be out of business.  Think.
  • Reply 29 of 29
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......


    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.

    Paul_B said:
    Xed said:
    Paul_B said:
    jcs2305 said:
    Imagine being so mentally fragile that being around your coworkers scares you. This is why we say leftist wokism is a mental illness. It's normalized agoraphobia.
    Seriously? ......
    Wokism is cancer and it spreads like cancer.
    Are you saying that discrimination, especially racism, is just the natural order of things and people should just accept their place in society?

    What exactly is Racism, many studies have indicated that children are inherently NOT racist, but if you hurt my loved ones or steal my property, vengeance will occur, child or adult.  Think.  Wokism is a cancer of the brain.
    As a man of color I have been highly alert to racial prejudice and situations of discrimination in and out of the work place my entire life. I remember a time when woke was actually just a question asking if you were asleep or not. So calling it a cancer of the brain because people are finally becoming aware of the ignorance around them is just a bad look. Just because people waking up to things makes you and other uncomfortable or you are tired of hearing about it doesn't make it bad or a cancer... my god what the hell are people so afraid of?

    Allow me to tell you about racism is since you seem to need enlightenment ..

    • Racism is having your best little buddy growing up call you the N word whenever they were mad and it didn't seem like a big deal
    • Racism is not being able to take a girl you've know for years to a little high school dance because her parents are afraid of what people will think.
    • Racism is a random man approaching you as a 10 or 12 year old kid asking if they had pools for your kind back down closer to my house because they don't want our kind polluting their pools.
    • Racism as a friends mom you have known for 15 years of your life comment that you were becoming very handsome.. to bad there isn't a nice "colored girl" you could go out with.
    • Racism is having a friends father say he Ni**** lipped a cigar like it was just normal conversation... with a whoops as an excuse.

    So I do agree 100,000% that children are NOT inherently born racist.. this type of hateful shit is taught and made to seem "normal" by ignorant and bigoted parents, neighbors and society.. and people are tired of it!
    You are going down a slippery slope.  Your theme is censorship, if an individual wants to use a word they can.  Rap music uses the 'N' word the most.  What on God's given earth are you talking about?  If you ban the 'N' word rap music is gone, an the N will be out of business.  Think.
    They didn't say anything about banning words, they said that using certain words is racist.  There are plenty of words that are racist that aren't illegal, just like there are plenty of other words that range from impolite to offensive that aren't illegal.  I can call everyone I pass on the street an asshole and I haven't done anything illegal, but you'd be free and right to call me out on it.  Same with the N word, or any other racist behaviours.  No censorship or bans necessarily required, just the calling out horrible people for being horrible, and a bit more awareness that this is a regular occurrence from people who aren't the everyday victims.

    NB. Adding the word think after every post does not make you a great thinker.  Especially when you completely missed the point and went off down a slippery slope tangent.
    ronn
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