Apple fails bid to shut down refiled Cydia antitrust lawsuit

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  • Reply 21 of 23
    saareksaarek Posts: 1,647member
    Fred257 said:
    Dear Apple:

    If it wasn’t for Cydia most things that make the iPhone easy to navigate wouldn’t exist. Apple really has stifled on software innovation but Cydia gave us the things we always wanted and needed for navigation. I hope Cydia wins because Apple would give us more if what we need to make the iPhone easier to use because of this.
    Like what?
    Early iPhone models missed some obvious features, such as copy and paste, tethering, using your phone as a torch, etc.

    I used to Jailbreak my iPhone and use Cydia to pay to add this type of functionality.

    I’m not sure I’d bother jailbreaking an iPhone anymore, but back in the day the Cydia App Store was a fantastic way to increase the functionality of your phone.
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  • Reply 22 of 23
    rcomeau said:
    It's a hilarious lawsuit because it attempts to frame apple patching exploits (each one with a public CVE) as a direct attack on Cydia. Why? Because Cydia relies on jail breaking and those exploits are usually required for the jailbreaks to occur.

    Needless to say it's without merit to characterise bug squashing as anti-competitive, but this is currently the era of the great Apple pile-on. Everyone wants a cut of what Apple have built, even if it means destroying it in the process.
    I think you are missing the point here. If Apple opened up the ecosystem to legitimate third party stores, Cydia would not have to resort to jailbreaking. I am not advocating that and the examples given so far are pretty weak arguments, it is a legitimate argument. I do miss having shell on my phone, but I admit that was very narrow application.
    But even if Apple did allow side loading or alternate App Stores, those apps would still have the same restrictions as those in the official App Store. i.e., they would be sandboxed and wouldn't be able to modify the system or other apps. That would still require jailbreaking.

    Some people will be very disappointed if and when official side loading happens. They think it would basically mean "official jailbreaking" with all the hacks and tweaks...when really, it would mostly be the same kinds of apps just with a different distribution channel so companies can pocket more of the money.
    edited May 2022
    muthuk_vanalingam
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  • Reply 23 of 23
    Fred257 said:
    Dear Apple:

    If it wasn’t for Cydia most things that make the iPhone easy to navigate wouldn’t exist. Apple really has stifled on software innovation but Cydia gave us the things we always wanted and needed for navigation. I hope Cydia wins because Apple would give us more if what we need to make the iPhone easier to use because of this.
    Like what?
    Like... the app store? 

    When the iPhone came out there was no app store. 

    Cydia was the first App store, before there was an Apple app store - which came a year later. 

    I love Cydia because I loved my iPhone 1 which I got in 2007 when it came out - unlocking the phone with Cydia was the only way I could get it to work as I was living in Thailand at the time. 

    Now think about this - I bought a phone for full price. I can do whatever I want with this phone. Cydia offered services - I can buy their services. Why is it Apple's to decide what I can do with my hardware which I bought for full price? 

    Anyway, 3rd party app stores are coming and I am hoping for a redemption of Jay and the OG Cydia team. They rock! 

    Back in 2007 iPhone was carrier locked even if you paid full price. iPhones did not work at all (!!) outside the USA! So I paid all this money to get one to Thailand, and took the risk that the unlock wouldn't work - I waited some months to be able to be reasonably sure the Cydia unlock mechanism was working. 

    That iPhone survived 10 years and was used for the entire time, being passed down to kids in the end. Amazing device.

    I got dozens of iPods, iPhones, and Macs for myself, my family and my friends over the years so what did Apple lose from this? Nothing. They gained a lot of sales. Getting a 15 pro next week. 
    edited September 2023
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