TikTok staff in China allegedly accessed U.S. user data

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TikTok allowed U.S. user data to be seen by staff in China, a report claims, despite testimony to an October Senate hearing insisting it has tough controls preventing access to the data in the territory.




The ByteDance-owned TikTok has always been the subject of privacy concern, with critics often fearing that data about U.S. users may end up stored in China. While TikTok has repeatedly offered assurances that U.S. data is stored in the United States, a report claims that Chinese employees can still access the sensitive data trove.

Leaked audio from more than 80 internal TikTok meetings reviewed by Buzzfeed include 14 statements from nine separate TikTok employees revealing engineers in China had access to U.S. data between September 2021 and January 2022, at a minimum.

The allegations surface despite sworn testimony by a TikTok executive in October informing the Senate that a "world-renowned US-based security team" dictates who can or cannot see the data.

In some instances, the recordings describe how U.S. employees talk to China-based counterparts to discuss U.S. user data, with U.S. staff either not knowing how to access the data on their own, or not having permission to do so.

In another recording, a member of TikTok's Trust and Safety department mentions how "Everything is seen in China," while another brings up a China-based engineer who is a "Master Admin" who has "access to everything."

The allegations are problematic for TikTok, considering the uneasy political relationship between the U.S. and China. Indeed, the potential access and fear of exploitation led to an executive order in 2020 demanding the sale of TikTok citing national security concerns, followed by many months of legal challenges.

Responding to the report, TikTok spokesperson Maureen Shanahan said "We know we're among the most scrutinized platforms from a security standpoint, and we aim to remove any doubt about the security of U.S. user data. That's why we hire experts in their fields, continually work to validate our security standards, and bring in reputable, independent third-parties to test our defenses."

On Friday, TikTok proclaimed it had reached a "significant milestone" in changing the way it stored U.S. user data by default to U.S. servers operated by Oracle, rather than using data centers in the U.S. and Singapore. The latter will continue to be used for backups for the moment but data is expected to be deleted as the company fully pivots to Oracle's cloud servers.

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 12
    amar99amar99 Posts: 181member
    What scares me is not so much who has access, but the fact they are allowed to gather enough data on users to make access a concern to begin with.

    I would like to know whether most of the sensitive data they store is voluntarily provided by users, or gathered through telemetry. My guess would be the latter.
    edited June 2022 CluntBaby92watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 12
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 3,958member
    Shocker!,,
    JapheyCluntBaby92Beatswatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 12
    JapheyJaphey Posts: 1,767member
    If only someone could have warned us…
    CluntBaby92viclauyycbaconstangwatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 12
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
    I never trust Tiktok. That’s why I never used it.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 12
    genovellegenovelle Posts: 1,480member
    TikTok is the least of our worries. They are a distraction that will not matter if we are no longer a democracy. Remember what you see is not actually what may be happening. We pretended to be tough on China with tariffs, but who pays them, we do. We cosy up to Putin and they are best friends with China, who is best friends with North Korea. Someone else we were buddying up to. There is a pattern and it is not a coincidence. 
    Beatswatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 12
    BeatsBeats Posts: 3,073member
    I am SHOCKED!! The CCP spying on the U.S?!

    Another TikTok funny:
    Any criticism towards females is banned. Sexism against males is promoted by TikTok.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 12
    xiao-zhixiao-zhi Posts: 112member
    This article and some of the comments show how xenophobic, fearful and irrational Americans have become. Ironic, given American criticism of Chinese government filtration of content from outside, when in fact, American people actually agree with the idea of digital Balkanization. Have to say, the idea that the Chinese government spying on American teens post Tide pod videos is pretty funny.
    JaiOh81
  • Reply 8 of 12
    hammeroftruthhammeroftruth Posts: 1,309member
    xiao-zhi said:
    This article and some of the comments show how xenophobic, fearful and irrational Americans have become. Ironic, given American criticism of Chinese government filtration of content from outside, when in fact, American people actually agree with the idea of digital Balkanization. Have to say, the idea that the Chinese government spying on American teens post Tide pod videos is pretty funny.
    Don’t know where you get your “facts” from, but they are incorrect. 

    As far as being xenophobic, right back at ya. 

    The funny thing is your handle implies you may be Chinese and can make accusations about America and Americans, but Americans couldn’t do that online in China now could we?
    muthuk_vanalingammagman1979watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 12
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,913member
    Where are our big mouth Law makers in Washington DC ? Are they sleeping ?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 12
    waveparticlewaveparticle Posts: 1,497member
    wood1208 said:
    Where are our big mouth Law makers in Washington DC ? Are they sleeping ?
    They are busy drafting the 365th anti-China law. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 12
    hexclockhexclock Posts: 1,252member
    wood1208 said:
    Where are our big mouth Law makers in Washington DC ? Are they sleeping ?
    They are busy drafting the 365th anti-China law. 
    Well China does use slave labor to build all those gadgets for us. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 12 of 12
    Recent series in the NY Times on China’s mass surveillance system is quite scary/edifying. State control is absolute so it’s hard to see how TikTok is not a part of this. 

    edited June 2022
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