iPhone 14 Pro lead times dip below iPhone 13 Pro for first time

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in AAPL Investors edited October 2022
Delivery lead times of the iPhone 14 Pro models have dipped below their iPhone 13 equivalents at this stage of release, analysts claim, while demand for the iPhone 14 remains "modest."

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In the sixth week of the Apple Product Availability Tracker by JP Morgan, the Pro models of iPhone 14 are seeing lead times moderate from the fifth week's data. According to the tracker, lead times for the iPhone 14 Pro Max have leveled off to be at par with the Pro.

It is reckoned that the moderation timeline is similar to that of the iPhone 13 Pro models, despite lower supply constraints. Delivery at-home timing for the iPhone 14, Plus, Pro, and Pro Max are 2, 2, 29, and 30 days, down from 2, 4, 32, and 34 days respectively one week prior.

Relative to the iPhone 13, the lead times are shorter for the base iPhone 14, and slightly below for the Pro and Pro Max. JP Morgan doesn't offer a comparison for the iPhone 14 Plus, presumably due to the much later release date.

In the U.S., Pro Max demands track more in line with the Pro at 32 days each, with the Pro Max previously at 39 days. The lead times for the iPhone 14 and Plus are stable at three days each, but this is well below the roughly 11 days the iPhone 13 and mini was at for the same relative period.

In China, Pro model lead times now track below the global average, at 22 days and 29 days for the Pro and Pro Max respectively. Lead times of 1 day for the iPhone 14 and Plus in China is also very low compared to the 12 days of the iPhone 13 and mini for China.

For the UK and Germany in Europe, lead times are consistent for the Pro and moderate for the Max. The iPhone 14 and Plus have next-day lead times, well below the iPhone 13 and mini counterpart times of about 11 days.

The Wearables Tracker saw a gradual moderation for the new Apple Watch models. The Apple Watch Series 8 and Apple Watch Ultra had global average lead times of 9 days and 24 days respectively, down from 11 days and 25 days one week prior, while the Apple Watch SE went from 10 days to 9 days.

The second-generation AirPods Pro have a deal time of about 2 days, a slight moderation from three days for one week ago.

On Wednesday, a note to investors from JP Morgan forecast record-breaking financials for Apple's fourth fiscal quarter, with revenue of $90 billion and an earnings per share of $1.31.

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 8
    MadbumMadbum Posts: 536member
    It would be helpful to know how many phones are being produced per day globally relative to last year.

    I think for the lead times to be the same as 13 pro , considering Apple is directing factories to produce more 14 pros compared to last year as well as having Indian factories involved this year which didn’t exist last year. As well as the incredible supply chain constraints last year 

    so more factories this year, more lines dedicated to pro and almost no supply chain constraining factories like last year, the lead time is the same as last year sounds frankly crazy to me. I would think they are likely producing 10-15 percent more  per day compared to last year 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 8
    Perfect example of Tim Cook’s “you cannot draw a conclusion from a single data point” comment.  In the absence of knowing how many phones are being produced compared to last year these numbers are meaningless.  Demand could be much greater than last year but you wouldn’t know it if Apple built 10 Million more phones.   Likewise, demand could be less but you wouldn’t know it because Apple built 10 million fewer phones (unlikely). 
    MadbumJFC_PAmike1watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 8
    MadbumMadbum Posts: 536member
    Perfect example of Tim Cook’s “you cannot draw a conclusion from a single data point” comment.  In the absence of knowing how many phones are being produced compared to last year these numbers are meaningless.  Demand could be much greater than last year but you wouldn’t know it if Apple built 10 Million more phones.   Likewise, demand could be less but you wouldn’t know it because Apple built 10 million fewer phones (unlikely). 
    Exactly. By my estimates piecing together what we know publicly about Apple asking Foxconn to shift 5-8 percent supply lines from 14 to 14 Pro, as well as Indian factories also making 14 models and finally, no supply constraints this year compared to last year …

    with all that,  I find it incredible the 14 pro is still same lead time as 13 pro 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 8
    … eff da 14.
  • Reply 5 of 8
    JFC_PAJFC_PA Posts: 937member
    OR the reports of ramped up production are accurate?

    Sigh. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 8
    After using my new iphone 14 pro max for two weeks, I’am not enthusiastic. I bought this device for the  improved camera. I now own an iphone 11 pro max. However, the picture quality of the iphone 14 pro max is disappointing compared to the iphone 11 pro max. Especially the colors I don’t like. Of course it’s nice to have a 3x zoom. But picture quality is what matters. Here the 14 disappoints. The always on screen is nice but it’s an extra I will not miss when it’s not there. 
    grandact73watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 8
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,020member
    Still waiting my pro max ordered on 9/11/22.  
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 8
    MadbumMadbum Posts: 536member
    dutchlord said:
    After using my new iphone 14 pro max for two weeks, I’am not enthusiastic. I bought this device for the  improved camera. I now own an iphone 11 pro max. However, the picture quality of the iphone 14 pro max is disappointing compared to the iphone 11 pro max. Especially the colors I don’t like. Of course it’s nice to have a 3x zoom. But picture quality is what matters. Here the 14 disappoints. The always on screen is nice but it’s an extra I will not miss when it’s not there. 
    I will give you my 11 pro max and a new case for it if you hate it so much 

    if you cannot see the camera improvements from iPhone 11 Pro… I am sorry, you need to check your eyes because it’s not the phone 
    muthuk_vanalingamwatto_cobra
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