FCC commissioner believes U.S. TikTok ban is inevitable

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An FCC commissioner thinks a ban of TikTok in the United States will eventually happen, with the handling of user data still a grave concern.

TikTok on a smartphone
TikTok on a smartphone


The video-sharing app TikTok has been the target of ire from U.S. officials for years, but it continues to exist on U.S. shores. However, it's still possible that it could be banned in the country due to security fears.

In an interview with Axios, FCC commissioner Brendan Carr said the Council on Foreign Investment in the U.S. should take action against TikTok, with the ultimate possibility of banning the app.

Carr is concerned about the China-centric ownership of TikTok, and is fearful of the flow of user data heading into China. The data, Carr believes, could be used to covertly influence political processes in the United States, potentially to benefit China's administration.

"I don't believe there is a path forward for anything other than a ban," Carr said in the interview about TikTok's data handling. This is in reference to reports such as one detailing how Chinese TikTok staff allegedly could access the data of U.S. users, and the in-app browser's capability to monitor all input.

There isn't "a world in which you could come up with sufficient protection on the data that you could have sufficient confidence that it's not finding its way back into the hands of the [Chinese Communist Party]" he added.

The commissioner has previously written to Apple CEO Tim Cook and Google CEO Sundar Pichai to urge a ban of the app, due to how it "harvests swaths of sensitive data" from U.S. users.

As the FCC does not have the authority to actively regulate TikTok, Carr instead calls for CFIUS to take charge. CFIUS is already in talks with TikTok, in a bid to determine whether or not it could be divested by the Chinese ByteDance to a U.S. operation.

TikTok responded to Carr's assertions by insisting he had "no role in the confidential discussions with the U.S. government related to TikTok and appears to be expressing views independent of his role as an FCC commissioner." TikTok says it is "confident" that it will reach an agreement that "will satisfy all reasonable national security concerns."

It also supports the passage of legislation pertaining to national data privacy that applies to all companies.

This far from the first time TikTok has faced calls for a ban by the U.S. government. During the presidency of Donald Trump, an attempt was made to ban TikTok unless it could be divested to a U.S. entity, though that effort has seemingly died down.

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  • Reply 1 of 12
    Phony democracy freedom. 
  • Reply 2 of 12
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    Phony democracy freedom. 
    Being lectured by you on "democracy freedom" is rich.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/02/tiktok-tells-european-users-its-staff-in-china-get-access-to-their-data

    Enjoy the collapse of Xi's China, while the West looks in the rear view mirror.


    StrangeDaysJapheyblastdoormacseekerbeowulfschmidtwatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 12
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,317member
    tmay said:
    Phony democracy freedom. 
    Being lectured by you on "democracy freedom" is rich.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/02/tiktok-tells-european-users-its-staff-in-china-get-access-to-their-data

    Enjoy the collapse of Xi's China, while the West looks in the rear view mirror.


    That would be Russia definitely not China.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boh66Pjjiq0 The good a city the size of Austria with 32,000,000 million people

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LArhIB_rVM The Average 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlu0bnlLIds    The Bad?

    Vast infrastructure ….They ain’t going anywhere but Russia is.

    TikTok may be gone in the US not the world, wishing China away isn’t going to work.

    edited November 2022 watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 12
    Bit naive here but if on iOS you’re not allowing access to contacts, haven’t provided your real email etc, and are a consumer not producer of content, what especially sensitive data can TikTok harvest?
  • Reply 5 of 12
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 13,075member
    Phony democracy freedom. 
    Yeah nah - we just don't like a brutal, murderous dictator and his one-party monster machine to have control of our data, thanks.
    baconstangblastdoormacseekerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 12
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 13,075member
    Bit naive here but if on iOS you’re not allowing access to contacts, haven’t provided your real email etc, and are a consumer not producer of content, what especially sensitive data can TikTok harvest?
    All the server-side data. China's murderous CCP has the legal authority to take any user profile data they use, and has and will use this to murder dissidents. 
    tmaymacseekerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 12
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 13,075member
    danox said:
    TikTok may be gone in the US not the world, wishing China away isn’t going to work.
    It isn't wishing them away; it's keeping their grubby paws off data of US users. China maintains a police state (not an exaggeration) and not allowing them access to our data is just common sense.
    tmaybaconstangblastdoormacseekerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 12
    MadbumMadbum Posts: 536member
    100 percent it should be banned. Wasn’t this happening like 3 years ago?
    macseekerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 12
    Bit naive here but if on iOS you’re not allowing access to contacts, haven’t provided your real email etc, and are a consumer not producer of content, what especially sensitive data can TikTok harvest?
    E.g. all your keyboard input and taps when using their in-app Webbrowser: https://krausefx.com/blog/announcing-inappbrowsercom-see-what-javascript-commands-get-executed-in-an-in-app-browser
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 12
    Bit naive here but if on iOS you’re not allowing access to contacts, haven’t provided your real email etc, and are a consumer not producer of content, what especially sensitive data can TikTok harvest?
    E.g. all your keyboard input and taps when using their in-app Webbrowser: https://krausefx.com/blog/announcing-inappbrowsercom-see-what-javascript-commands-get-executed-in-an-in-app-browser
    Apple iMessages app also do that. 
  • Reply 11 of 12
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    danox said:
    tmay said:
    Phony democracy freedom. 
    Being lectured by you on "democracy freedom" is rich.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/02/tiktok-tells-european-users-its-staff-in-china-get-access-to-their-data

    Enjoy the collapse of Xi's China, while the West looks in the rear view mirror.


    That would be Russia definitely not China.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boh66Pjjiq0 The good a city the size of Austria with 32,000,000 million people

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LArhIB_rVM The Average 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlu0bnlLIds    The Bad?

    Vast infrastructure ….They ain’t going anywhere but Russia is.

    TikTok may be gone in the US not the world, wishing China away isn’t going to work.

    Maybe I'm not so much wishful, and keeping up with current events;

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/14/china-decline-dangers/

    Decline is a tricky concept. The term makes us think of a country that is falling like a rock—one whose power and capabilities are dropping across the board. But a country can be in relative decline vis-à-vis a fast-growing adversary even if its own power is still increasing. It can be surging forward in some areas, such as military might, even as its underlying economic strength starts to wither. And decline doesn’t always lead a country to scale back its objectives—the sense of urgency it creates can cause ambitious powers to grab what they can before the clock runs out.

    Xi Jinping’s China is about to give the world an education in the nuances of decline. Since the onset of its economic reforms in the 1970s, China has long defied predictions that it would soon stumble or collapse. Its spectacular growth challenged prevailing views about the sources of national success in the modern world. In some ways, China is still soaring: Its military power grows more formidable every year. When Xi declares that “the East is rising and the West is declining,” he gives voice to this sense that China is a country on the make.

    Yet military power is often a lagging indicator of a country’s trajectory: It takes time to turn money into military muscle, and massive buildups often persist even after a country’s economic fortunes begin to flag. And today, for reasons including demographic disaster and the lingering effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, China is facing the end of the stunning economic growth that made it possible for Xi to assert that the “great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation” was at hand. The China of the 2020s will be a country whose coercive capabilities are more intimidating than ever as its economic dynamism fades. That could be the worst possible combination for the world

    https://futurism.com/the-byte/china-population-half-30-years

    Half-Life 30

    If a new study is to be believed, China could face a disastrous drop in its population within just 30 years.

    China's aging population and decreasing birth rate have had its government on high alarm lately, with new census data revealing an even more significant drop in new births than expected, the South China Morning Post reports. Based on that data and an overall reluctance to have more kids, the country's population could be cut in half as soon as the year 2050, according to research published in the Journal of Xi'an University of Finance and Economics.


    China's miracle was funded by the West, and Xi is rapidly losing the West's interest in sourcing from China. That's a whole lot of abandoned real estate and decaying  infrastructure to deal with, but yeah, still the second largest military power to the U.S.
  • Reply 12 of 12
    Maybe the US bans TikTok right when Vine is relaunched. Elon seems to get away with everything I guess.
    watto_cobra
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