There are 'new' Apple Car rumors floating around - but beware

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A new interview claims to have secrets about the long-rumored Apple Car -- but if you've been paying attention, you already know what's in it and that some of it is crap.

Apple Car rumors stretch reality to the extreme
Apple Car rumors stretch reality to the extreme


It probably isn't easy being a product leaker. Sourcing information from people working in the shadowy corners of Apple can be a precarious task.

Just ask Jon Prosser, who's not had the best luck of late in Apple's rumor mill.

Majin Bu is a known leaker based in China that tends to land more on the sketchy side of Apple rumor reporting. He is usually best when reporting further details about a known leak from a different source.

When sharing original leaks, his accuracy hasn't been ideal.

iPhone to power Apple Car intelligence

AppleInsider considers many factors when covering a leak, especially one from a leaker with a poor accuracy record. However, this particular leak needed addressing as it had enough red flags to open its own amusement park.

Right from the onset of Majin Bu's Telegram post, even he removes any doubt that this "leak" is questionable at best. He clarifies that he has no way of verifying whether this information is real but was given permission to post portions of the conversation.

The supposed employee starts off by describing the interface of the Apple Car. The windshield would be a large touchscreen running CarPlay, no dash, and the only physical component would be a steering wheel. No mention of acceleration or brake pedals -- apparently, that's all controlled from the touch screen with self-driving inputs.

Contradictory statements pile up right away. The steering wheel will have a display, but also a hole for inserting the driver's iPhone. There would be no onboard computer. Instead, the iPhone controls the entire car experience and driving systems.

The touchscreen windshield will extend from the top to the "nose" with a flattened front end. Think Amazon van more than Tesla Model S.

Stop me if you've heard this before

And, the interviewee claims that Apple Car wouldn't be a consumer vehicle. Actually, it's a utility fleet car. A rental solution, even.

A van-like Project Titan has been rumored before
A van-like Project Titan has been rumored before


The iPhone is the brains and Siri controls autopilot. Commands will be given via Siri, and this is already functioning in the production model, at least according to this unknown employee.

The interview touches on a few more supposed facts, like how Project Titan refers to the material that makes up the Apple Car. (Titanium?)

The more you read, the more you realize these couldn't be the statements of a knowledgeable employee, but instead, could be the ravings of a 13-year-old giggling with their friends in a Discord server at the prank they just pulled.

Built in Germany, no wait, California

There are many points of failure in this "interview" that remove all ability to take this seriously, but perhaps the most egregious one -- Apple Pay via UWB. That's right, you'll pay for your fast food order using the car's radio frequency.

Oh, and apparently, the steering wheel screen, iPhone screen, and floor-to-ceiling windshield screen aren't enough, so you'll also be able to use an iPad as a "secondary screen."

This fantastical vehicle will be built in Cologne, Germany, says the source, but also partly in Italy. Not to mention that Bosch and NXP are also partners.

The new chip development facility in Irvine, California is also involved in the Apple Car project. So, Apple can claim it is "designed by Apple in California."

A rumor swan song?

Generally, leakers tend to pick and choose what they share to create some kind of mystery. Offering just enough detail to attract followers but not so much as to draw too much scrutiny.

This Apple Car concept from Motor Trend at least borrows from realistic design aspects
This Apple Car concept from Motor Trend at least borrows from realistic design aspects


While Majin Bu did say not to take this interview too seriously, he still posted it. This mishmash of information derived from previous rumors and magical thinking is now part of Bu's reporting.

We're not sure why he'd post it when it seems so obviously made up. Perhaps it is all entertainment meant to drive ironic clicks.

AppleInsider has covered Apple Car since the first whispers of Project Titan first leaked. It seems it will be a consumer-focused car with Apple's ecosystem at the center.

CarPlay, Apple Music, Apple Maps, and other services will drive the infotainment experience. However, the idea that it would lack basic driving controls or rely entirely on an iPhone for self-driving is absurd and far-fetched.

Majin Bu has had a questionable rumor streak lately. The Internet personality may be reaching as he's already shared rumors of macOS being tested on M2 iPads.

We've seen rumor-mongers come and go. The half-life of the rumor generators is about 18 months, either because they turn out to be 100% fabricated, or Apple stomps them into the dirt.

Where we are here, is anybody's guess.

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 6
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,183member
    Remember how long Ming-Chi Kuo predicted an Apple branded HDTV? Let that sink in.
    edited November 22 FileMakerFellerstarof80watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 6
    DAalsethDAalseth Posts: 2,409member
    The windshield would be a large touchscreen

    Try this experiment. Sit in the drivers seat of your car, strap yourself in, just like you were going to go somewhere. Now try to touch the windshield. 
    That was the point where I knew this guy was so far out of reality it makes me wonder what he was smoking. 
    FileMakerFellerstarof80watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 6
    ciacia Posts: 190member
    lkrupp said:
    Remember how long Ming-Chi Kuo predicted an Apple branded HDTV? Let that sink in.
    That was actually Gene Munster. For YEARS predicting the TV was right around the corner.

    I bet there really was a Apple branded TV set that was far along in development but was scrapped.
    ramanpfaffFileMakerFellerstarof80watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 6
    It's getting hard to remember how long ago that was! I think I've gotten old since that rumor started. ☹️

    cia said:
    lkrupp said:
    Remember how long Ming-Chi Kuo predicted an Apple branded HDTV? Let that sink in.
    That was actually Gene Munster. For YEARS predicting the TV was right around the corner.

    I bet there really was a Apple branded TV set that was far along in development but was scrapped.

    watto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 6
    Billy Connelly tells of a time when he convinced his father that one could purchase a prescription windscreen so that people wouldn't need to wear their glasses while driving.

    As for "Project Titan" I thought the name reflected the temperature Hell would need to reach before Apple would talk about it.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 6
    mpantonempantone Posts: 1,934member
    cia said:
    lkrupp said:
    Remember how long Ming-Chi Kuo predicted an Apple branded HDTV? Let that sink in.
    That was actually Gene Munster. For YEARS predicting the TV was right around the corner.

    I bet there really was a Apple branded TV set that was far along in development but was scrapped.
    Correct.

    The longtime "Apple TV" rumors were a Gene Munster fabrication. Ming-Chi Kuo doesn't bat 1.000 but he never had any preposterously inane predictions like Munster whom AppleInsider worshipped like some sort of living god.

    My guess is that Apple had many "Apple TV" prototypes over the years in their labs but the economics never made any sense since televisions are low-margin devices that tend to spend many years in possession of the purchaser.

    More than a handful of people who frequent these Apple rumor sites seem to get their history wrong about analyst predictions.

    Munster was a notoriously poor predictor of Apple product features.
    muthuk_vanalingamwatto_cobra
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