was too pretend to want to stop Irac with UN resalutions and plot againt the US and Britt by taking the side of Saddam and share intell.
Russia is a double agent!!! How can you defend that.
France did the same thing by telling Irac in advance where the inspevtors were going to look for weapons of mass distruction.
The biggest criticism that the US has gotten is that we should have let the UN handle it. We neeeeeeeeed UN favor and can not go againt world opinnion.
As it turns out
Russia was spying for saddam and has shared intell since the 1970's
France has been sabatoging UN inspections of weapons of mass distruction
Germany built all of Saddam's Billion dollar Nuclear bomb proof Palaces
China has no love for the US and has stated many times that they are preparing for the enivitable war with the US
and Canada is just silly
And I still hear anti war people wanting the UN to handle things
interesting that most or all of the UN members who was againt the war have gotten huge financial benifits from Saddam.
or do the anti war people think that this is all US propanganda
Hey, I just found out that France, Germany and Russia refuse to lift Sanctions on Iraq.
Hmmmm, I wonder why.
Because the U.N. wants access to the country to make sure they're free of WMD before lifing the sanctions. Same reason they've always had for the sanctions.
Yes, because we wouldn't want Saddam and his party to regain strength (after being "strangled" by said sanctions) and continue their strive for WMD once the sanctions have been lifted from present-day (Saddam-free) Iraq, now would we?
Russia was spying for saddam and has shared intell since the 1970's
So where US up until he invaded Q8
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France has been sabatoging UN inspections of weapons of mass distruction
Nothing compared to what US did a month ago
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Germany built all of Saddam's Billion dollar Nuclear bomb proof Palaces
When? Before or after he was our pet? Remember up until the invasion of Q8 everybody did buisness with Saddam. And do you really believe that the benefits various countries had 15 years ago effect how they vote today.
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and Canada is just silly
Not even close to how silly your arguments are
Look. When US and GB wanted to put the invasion of Iraq to the SC nobody thought the war could be stopped. It was a sure thing. IF the members of the counsil wanted a piece of the cake the best thing to do was to sent a few boats, a special operation unit or something else that made them part of the "coalition". That would have been the economical sound thing to do.
Just look at my country. We sent one sub and one fregat that never made it to the gulf before the war was over. And now we are rewarded with contracts. THATS how you mix buisness with international relations.
Because the U.N. wants access to the country to make sure they're free of WMD before lifing the sanctions. Same reason they've always had for the sanctions.
What?
they think that the US is going to use WMD against them now!
France warned iraq where the un was going to look for WMD in advance. Had we listened to the un we would have never found any weapons and saddam would still be in power.
what far worse underhanded double cross did the us do a month ago?
Hey, I just found out that France, Germany and Russia refuse to lift Sanctions on Iraq.
Hmmmm, I wonder why.
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Originally posted by bunge
Because the U.N. wants access to the country to make sure they're free of WMD before lifing the sanctions. Same reason they've always had for the sanctions.
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France has been sabatoging UN inspections of weapons of mass distruction
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Originally posted by Anders the white
Nothing compared to what US did a month ago [/B]
I do not understand why the anti war people defend the UN so much. Is it clear now that the UN was never going to resolve anything. That if France did not aid Saddam by tipping him off as to where they were going to search for weapons in advance the inspections might have worked and we would not of had to go to war. Saddam had to be removed and I blame the UN for the WAR. Basically it is clear that France, Germany and Russia had a lot of money invested in Saddam and did not wish to unseat him. Even with this knowledge you guys still believe that we should have given the UN more time. If we had they would have searched for years and never found anything and Saddam would still be in power building WMD and Bush would look bad and be blamed for never finding WMD which is what you all want anyhow. So let me ask you guys why are you not MAD!! at the UN. Dont you know that you were all betrayed. Or do you think that it does not matter because the US has done worse.
Come on these are the facts: Russia is a spy for Saddam, France is a double agent, and Germany and China have a fortune investred in Saddam. Come on and connect the dots. its time to open your minds, Bush is not all wrong
It is not clear that the UN was never going to resolve anything. The hawks need to believe that in order to support their un-just war.
Explain how the UN was going to remove WMD while France was sabotaging the inspectors and with Russia being a secret ally since the 1970's
Obviously they have their own agenda. Knowing this do you really believe that the UN was going to rresolve anything or do you think that this is just propaganda
it's like no matter what I write you read what you want to hear. Can you acknowledge that France and Russia did what it did so that I know that I am not typing for nothing.
I can not believe that anti-war people love the UN so much. do you believe that France, Germany, Russia and China or so superior and far more moral than us so that they are beyond critism??
Help me understand why no critisism of the UN when they have have betrayed you.
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was too pretend to want to stop Irac with UN resalutions and plot againt the US and Britt by taking the side of Saddam and share intell.
Russia is a double agent!!! How can you defend that.
France did the same thing by telling Irac in advance where the inspevtors were going to look for weapons of mass distruction.
The biggest criticism that the US has gotten is that we should have let the UN handle it. We neeeeeeeeed UN favor and can not go againt world opinnion.
As it turns out
Russia was spying for saddam and has shared intell since the 1970's
France has been sabatoging UN inspections of weapons of mass distruction
Germany built all of Saddam's Billion dollar Nuclear bomb proof Palaces
China has no love for the US and has stated many times that they are preparing for the enivitable war with the US
and Canada is just silly
And I still hear anti war people wanting the UN to handle things
interesting that most or all of the UN members who was againt the war have gotten huge financial benifits from Saddam.
or do the anti war people think that this is all US propanganda
Great post. But I would be careful if I was you. Most of the time sarcasm is lost on the members here.
Hmmmm, I wonder why. I thought that the sanctions were put into place because of Saddam
Or could it be that they are protecting a source of revenue for themselves and that they never gave a hoot for Iracq.
Originally posted by JC
Hey, I just found out that France, Germany and Russia refuse to lift Sanctions on Iraq.
Hmmmm, I wonder why.
Because the U.N. wants access to the country to make sure they're free of WMD before lifing the sanctions. Same reason they've always had for the sanctions.
anyone else = nobility
The saddest thing about zealots is that they are self-sustaining. It's an ugly cycle.
Originally posted by JC
what sarcasm?
Knew that
Russia was spying for saddam and has shared intell since the 1970's
So where US up until he invaded Q8
France has been sabatoging UN inspections of weapons of mass distruction
Germany built all of Saddam's Billion dollar Nuclear bomb proof Palaces
When? Before or after he was our pet? Remember up until the invasion of Q8 everybody did buisness with Saddam. And do you really believe that the benefits various countries had 15 years ago effect how they vote today.
and Canada is just silly
Not even close to how silly your arguments are
Look. When US and GB wanted to put the invasion of Iraq to the SC nobody thought the war could be stopped. It was a sure thing. IF the members of the counsil wanted a piece of the cake the best thing to do was to sent a few boats, a special operation unit or something else that made them part of the "coalition". That would have been the economical sound thing to do.
Just look at my country. We sent one sub and one fregat that never made it to the gulf before the war was over. And now we are rewarded with contracts. THATS how you mix buisness with international relations.
Originally posted by bunge
Because the U.N. wants access to the country to make sure they're free of WMD before lifing the sanctions. Same reason they've always had for the sanctions.
What?
they think that the US is going to use WMD against them now!
Originally posted by Anders the White
Knew that
France warned iraq where the un was going to look for WMD in advance. Had we listened to the un we would have never found any weapons and saddam would still be in power.
what far worse underhanded double cross did the us do a month ago?
Originally posted by groverat
US = ulterior motives
anyone else = nobility
US does = ulterior motives.
Anyone else also = ulterior motives.
An open process = everyone has to curtail their ulterior motives for the good of all.
You should stop making up arguments because they don't refer to anyone here. It makes you look funny.
Originally posted by JC
What?
they think that the US is going to use WMD against them now!
No, they think that the inspectors need to finish their job and make sure the country is free from any WMD from the Saddam Hussein era.
Hey, I just found out that France, Germany and Russia refuse to lift Sanctions on Iraq.
Hmmmm, I wonder why.
Originally posted by bunge
Because the U.N. wants access to the country to make sure they're free of WMD before lifing the sanctions. Same reason they've always had for the sanctions.
quote:
France has been sabatoging UN inspections of weapons of mass distruction
Originally posted by Anders the white
Nothing compared to what US did a month ago [/B]
I do not understand why the anti war people defend the UN so much. Is it clear now that the UN was never going to resolve anything. That if France did not aid Saddam by tipping him off as to where they were going to search for weapons in advance the inspections might have worked and we would not of had to go to war. Saddam had to be removed and I blame the UN for the WAR. Basically it is clear that France, Germany and Russia had a lot of money invested in Saddam and did not wish to unseat him. Even with this knowledge you guys still believe that we should have given the UN more time. If we had they would have searched for years and never found anything and Saddam would still be in power building WMD and Bush would look bad and be blamed for never finding WMD which is what you all want anyhow. So let me ask you guys why are you not MAD!! at the UN. Dont you know that you were all betrayed. Or do you think that it does not matter because the US has done worse.
Come on these are the facts: Russia is a spy for Saddam, France is a double agent, and Germany and China have a fortune investred in Saddam. Come on and connect the dots. its time to open your minds, Bush is not all wrong
Originally posted by JC
Is it clear now that the UN was never going to resolve anything.
It is not clear that the UN was never going to resolve anything. The hawks need to believe that in order to support their un-just war.
Originally posted by groverat
What "open process"?
A vote is a good start.
Originally posted by bunge
It is not clear that the UN was never going to resolve anything. The hawks need to believe that in order to support their un-just war.
Explain how the UN was going to remove WMD while France was sabotaging the inspectors and with Russia being a secret ally since the 1970's
Obviously they have their own agenda. Knowing this do you really believe that the UN was going to rresolve anything or do you think that this is just propaganda
it's like no matter what I write you read what you want to hear. Can you acknowledge that France and Russia did what it did so that I know that I am not typing for nothing.
I can not believe that anti-war people love the UN so much. do you believe that France, Germany, Russia and China or so superior and far more moral than us so that they are beyond critism??
Help me understand why no critisism of the UN when they have have betrayed you.
Originally posted by bunge
A vote is a good start.
On what? By who?
Originally posted by bunge
A vote is a good start.
I vote for a good start too
Originally posted by bunge
It is not clear that the UN was never going to resolve anything.
...not to bunge, at least. For most everybody else, logic prevails fortunately.