It looks like Samsung is cheating on 'space zoom' moon photos

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  • Reply 41 of 43
    mef13mef13 Posts: 1member
    This is a real problem. If a new crater appears on the moon, Samsung users won't be able to get a photo of it.
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  • Reply 42 of 43
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,901member
    JimmyG said:
    Hi Folks,

    First-time poster here, I joined just to post some my own personal experience with telephoto lunar photography. FWIW, my experience in observing and recording the night sky spans a lifetime of amateur astronomy since before I got my first telescope in 1967.

    A few quick items that folks should be educated on and familiar with before casting one's public opinion on this thread's topic...

    1. The, er, "evidentiary" image of the moon purportedly shot with a Sony a7R III/200-600mm lens here...

    Fake Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra moon shots debunked - MSPoweruser

    ...speaks to either A. the photographer's inability to know how to use that camera/lens combo for excellent results, and/or B. an attempt to use fake or misleading evidence for their argument. A simple search of the Sony 200-600mm moon images will reveal such...

    Search: Sony 200-600mm moon | Flickr

    ...clearly, that lens and pretty much any Sony body can provide a much more detailed lunar image than the one posted as evidence.

    2. The use of combining numerous images and using deconvolution methods in post processing has been a, um, "thing" in the world of astrophotography since the dawn of digital imaging...

    moon deconvolution at DuckDuckGo

    My take on Samsung's "100x Space Zoom" feature is that it's nothing more than an automated stacking and deconvolution software routine labeled/marketed as "AI".

    TL;DR...There is no trickery here except on the part of folks claiming such of Samsung.

    I hope that helps clear the air of any further misconceptions on this subject and, hopefully, any erroneous conclusions and/or opinions based on that unfamiliarity.

    Best,
    Jimmy G



    Thank you, Jimmy Samsung G
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  • Reply 43 of 43
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member


    My take on Samsung's "100x Space Zoom" feature is that it's nothing more than an automated stacking and deconvolution software routine labeled/marketed as "AI".

    TL;DR...There is no trickery here except on the part of folks claiming such of Samsung.



    I tend to doubt your take, it could simply be switching out the AI-recognized image of the moon with a stock image in a database.  That's how many AI systems work these days. 

    As others have said here in this thread.  No one is decrying AIs use as such; it's only misleading if it is being passed off as some sort of super optical performance lens or super complicated in-camera stacking, as you suggest. If it is simply replacing from a database as many iPhone apps do, and even Photoshop's Photo Restoration system, it's a bit of a scam.  If your take is correct then kudos to Samsung.
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