So happy the EU is getting so involved in technology design /s
First the plug thing now this...it won't be long before we're back to using big clunky products.
This is an update to the batteries directive. It's not something new.
It's an attempt to bring the legislation into line with current EU goals with right to repair, consumer protection and information.
There is quite literally a lot to like.
The iPhone is a disposable item. By the time a battery needs replacing it is well past time for a new iPhone. As for right to repair. Don't care about having some untrained person w/o the proper tools trying to replace the battery in my sealed waterproof device. They should stick to selling screen protectors and cases.
If that were the case, there would be no need for Apple to point this out:
"Your battery’s health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity. More about service options…"
That is needed because an iPhone battery - under normal conditions - is designed to give 500 full charging cycles while maintaining 80% of its original capacity.
That 'capacity' is something that Apple prefers to not be very transparent on.
So, that's 500 complete cycles under 'normal' conditions.
Over the last five years it has become clear that screen-on time has increased for most users. The operating system now has mechanism to try and make users aware of this. That means batteries are draining faster for many of those users, and then needing to be recharged.
The environments where phones are used also impact battery performance. Hotter than optimum or colder than optimum can affect performance.
The upshot is that, depending on use and operating conditions, many users may well find themselves in need of a new battery well within the expected lifespan of the device.
Who performs the replacement and how, should not represent a limitation for the end user and, preferably, devices should be designed with this kind of action in mind and the process itself should not be technically demanding.
Under no circumstances for example, should screen breakage be a risk as part of an iPhone battery replacement.
"Your battery’s health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity. More about service options…"
This is for people w/unrealistic expectations that don't understand batteries degrade over time and who choose to run their phones into the ground and why Apple had to create this page in an attempt to educate them...https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208387
That 'capacity' is something that Apple prefers to not be very transparent on.
I think you mean how long should the battery last. A normal battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles when operating under normal conditions. ~= 2 years.
Over the last five years it has become clear that screen-on time has increased for most users. The operating system now has mechanism to try and make users aware of this. That means batteries are draining faster for many of those users, and then needing to be recharged.
Batteries are draining faster b/c people don't have lives and are so self absorbed with social media that they cannot even drive w/o looking and responding. Put your phone down and see the world around you.
Under no circumstances for example, should screen breakage be a risk as part of an iPhone battery replacement.
It doesn't, when you have the proper tools and training and if it does Apple eats it. Your talking about non-certified kiosks in the mall or people that think they can do it by watching an iFixIt video.
Like I said the iPhone or more correctly the battery is a consumable item and disposable. I replace/refresh my battery by buying a new iPhone and reap the other benefits that come w/that choice. The folks that feel there is economy in replacing batteries and running products into the ground are the same ones that when they do eventually upgrade say...wow this new phone is fast/snappy/etc, the camera takes better pictures, oh my night videos are so much better and on and on.
I tried that once with a Macbook. I upgraded the hard drive, I upgraded the RAM. I chugged around loosing time b/c my computer was so slow and didn't know it until I eventually upgraded. Just b/c the hardware still works doesn't mean it isn't obsolete.
I upgrade early and get the most return for my used iPhone. Add up your costs, iPhone purchase, batteries, etc. + $0 when you upgrade b/c your iPhone is old and see how much you really spend.
So happy the EU is getting so involved in technology design /s
First the plug thing now this...it won't be long before we're back to using big clunky products.
This is an update to the batteries directive. It's not something new.
It's an attempt to bring the legislation into line with current EU goals with right to repair, consumer protection and information.
There is quite literally a lot to like.
The iPhone is a disposable item. By the time a battery needs replacing it is well past time for a new iPhone. As for right to repair. Don't care about having some untrained person w/o the proper tools trying to replace the battery in my sealed waterproof device. They should stick to selling screen protectors and cases.
If that were the case, there would be no need for Apple to point this out:
"Your battery’s health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity. More about service options…"
That is needed because an iPhone battery - under normal conditions - is designed to give 500 full charging cycles while maintaining 80% of its original capacity.
That 'capacity' is something that Apple prefers to not be very transparent on.
So, that's 500 complete cycles under 'normal' conditions.
Over the last five years it has become clear that screen-on time has increased for most users. The operating system now has mechanism to try and make users aware of this. That means batteries are draining faster for many of those users, and then needing to be recharged.
The environments where phones are used also impact battery performance. Hotter than optimum or colder than optimum can affect performance.
The upshot is that, depending on use and operating conditions, many users may well find themselves in need of a new battery well within the expected lifespan of the device.
Who performs the replacement and how, should not represent a limitation for the end user and, preferably, devices should be designed with this kind of action in mind and the process itself should not be technically demanding.
Under no circumstances for example, should screen breakage be a risk as part of an iPhone battery replacement.
"Your battery’s health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity. More about service options…"
This is for people w/unrealistic expectations that don't understand batteries degrade over time and who choose to run their phones into the ground and why Apple had to create this page in an attempt to educate them...https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208387
That 'capacity' is something that Apple prefers to not be very transparent on.
I think you mean how long should the battery last. A normal battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles when operating under normal conditions. ~= 2 years.
Over the last five years it has become clear that screen-on time has increased for most users. The operating system now has mechanism to try and make users aware of this. That means batteries are draining faster for many of those users, and then needing to be recharged.
Batteries are draining faster b/c people don't have lives and are so self absorbed with social media that they cannot even drive w/o looking and responding. Put your phone down and see the world around you.
Under no circumstances for example, should screen breakage be a risk as part of an iPhone battery replacement.
It doesn't, when you have the proper tools and training and if it does Apple eats it. Your talking about non-certified kiosks in the mall or people that think they can do it by watching an iFixIt video.
Like I said the iPhone or more correctly the battery is a consumable item and disposable. I replace/refresh my battery by buying a new iPhone and reap the other benefits that come w/that choice. The folks that feel there is economy in replacing batteries and running products into the ground are the same ones that when they do eventually upgrade say...wow this new phone is fast/snappy/etc, the camera takes better pictures, oh my night videos are so much better and on and on.
I tried that once with a Macbook. I upgraded the hard drive, I upgraded the RAM. I chugged around loosing time b/c my computer was so slow and didn't know it until I eventually upgraded. Just b/c the hardware still works doesn't mean it isn't obsolete.
I upgrade early and get the most return for my used iPhone. Add up your costs, iPhone purchase, batteries, etc. + $0 when you upgrade b/c your iPhone is old and see how much you really spend.
People use their phones more and more now. It can be because of work, leisure or just pure boredom but there is no getting away from the fact that many users will run into battery issues in the normal lifetime of the phone.
For capacity I mean the rated capacity in mAH. Apple, for basically marketing reasons, prefers to avoid mentioning it if it can.
For damage during battery replacement I can speak from experience. I was specifically warned of the risk of screen damage while getting access to the battery and made to sign off on the possibility. Apple went out of its way to make sure I understood that. The same document included the price of a new screen or refurbished model. This was an Apple Retail Store.
I imagine Apple will only 'eat it' if the battery replacement is under warranty, which it would be required to do by law anyway.
This new law would give users more information about the battery and make changing it much easier.
Like I said the iPhone or more correctly the battery is a consumable item and disposable.
Those are two COMPLETELY different and opposed statements:
"The iPhone is disposable" is horrifically peak consumerism.
"The battery is disposable" means that the phone is not.
This is why you were getting flak.
at the revisionism. It wasn't that "battery is disposable" is "more connect" than "iPhone is disposable", it's that "iPhone is disposable" is completely thick headed!
As if anyone cares what omasou's upgrade cycle and their reasons for it are
Like I said the iPhone or more correctly the battery is a consumable item and disposable.
Those are two COMPLETELY different and opposed statements:
"The iPhone is disposable" is horrifically peak consumerism.
"The battery is disposable" means that the phone is not.
This is why you were getting flak.
Fair enough. For me the life of an iPhone is 1-2 years and I wouldn't waste time or money trying to extend that time.
The useable life is longer and I'm sure whomever purchases my refurbished iPhone will enjoy it. Hopefully, for them, that refurbishment includes a new battery.
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This is for people w/unrealistic expectations that don't understand batteries degrade over time and who choose to run their phones into the ground and why Apple had to create this page in an attempt to educate them...https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208387
That 'capacity' is something that Apple prefers to not be very transparent on.
I think you mean how long should the battery last. A normal battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles when operating under normal conditions. ~= 2 years.
Over the last five years it has become clear that screen-on time has increased for most users. The operating system now has mechanism to try and make users aware of this. That means batteries are draining faster for many of those users, and then needing to be recharged.
Batteries are draining faster b/c people don't have lives and are so self absorbed with social media that they cannot even drive w/o looking and responding. Put your phone down and see the world around you.
Under no circumstances for example, should screen breakage be a risk as part of an iPhone battery replacement.
It doesn't, when you have the proper tools and training and if it does Apple eats it. Your talking about non-certified kiosks in the mall or people that think they can do it by watching an iFixIt video.
Like I said the iPhone or more correctly the battery is a consumable item and disposable. I replace/refresh my battery by buying a new iPhone and reap the other benefits that come w/that choice. The folks that feel there is economy in replacing batteries and running products into the ground are the same ones that when they do eventually upgrade say...wow this new phone is fast/snappy/etc, the camera takes better pictures, oh my night videos are so much better and on and on.
I tried that once with a Macbook. I upgraded the hard drive, I upgraded the RAM. I chugged around loosing time b/c my computer was so slow and didn't know it until I eventually upgraded. Just b/c the hardware still works doesn't mean it isn't obsolete.
I upgrade early and get the most return for my used iPhone. Add up your costs, iPhone purchase, batteries, etc. + $0 when you upgrade b/c your iPhone is old and see how much you really spend.
For capacity I mean the rated capacity in mAH. Apple, for basically marketing reasons, prefers to avoid mentioning it if it can.
For damage during battery replacement I can speak from experience. I was specifically warned of the risk of screen damage while getting access to the battery and made to sign off on the possibility. Apple went out of its way to make sure I understood that. The same document included the price of a new screen or refurbished model. This was an Apple Retail Store.
I imagine Apple will only 'eat it' if the battery replacement is under warranty, which it would be required to do by law anyway.
This new law would give users more information about the battery and make changing it much easier.
"The battery is disposable" means that the phone is not.
As if anyone cares what omasou's upgrade cycle and their reasons for it are
The useable life is longer and I'm sure whomever purchases my refurbished iPhone will enjoy it. Hopefully, for them, that refurbishment includes a new battery.