Apple's iPhone 15 & Apple Watch event -- what we loved, and didn't

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  • Reply 21 of 23
    AppleZulu said:
    So why again should anyone be irritated about a five minute sketch about Apple actually taking responsibility for what they put out into the world?
    Because it’s just corporate greenwashing and Apple couldn’t care less. Most environmental problems today come from the Chinese regime, which is enabled by Apple and to which Apple panders every day. Be it removing the Taiwan flag to nerfing Airdrop so dissidents can’t use it, Apple has a thing for totalitarianism. 
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  • Reply 22 of 23
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    kellie said:
    1. The skit was too much. The message could have been delivered in half the time with half the brow beating. 

    2.  One line in the skit was, not an exact quote, “we won’t be happy until all carbon is removed from the atmosphere.”  Better not do that or all the plants will perish. 

    3. At least in NY, soda bottles have deposits, which results in the majority of soda bottles being returned and recycled.  The government isn’t paying to collect them.  Even if Coke was paying to collect bottles they would increase the price of the product to cover the expense.  There’s no free lunch.  Corporations don’t pay taxes. People do.  So any costs are ultimately borne by the consumer or taxpayer.  

    4. The bottles in my recent Coke purchase were made from 100% recycled plastic.  Going back to glass is not necessarily any better for the environment.  Glass is heavy which increases transport costs.  The washing process would also be energy expensive.  

    5. Apple may not be as altruistic as some may think with recycling. It may be necessary in order to insure adequate supplies of metals, especially rare earth metals, in order to manufacture new products. 
    1.  The usual way of relaying this type of information is by bullet point Tim Talk. They tried something different. There was no "brow beating" except perhaps to the exceptionally sensitive. You should  have just taken a bathroom break.

    2.  "Not an exact quote." OK then. Maybe they said "excess" carbon, which would be the intent. There is no likelihood of removing all the carbon even if you wanted to.

    3.  Only ten states have bottle deposits, so the majority of plastic bottles are still not recycled. Also, (Per IRS): "A corporation conducts business, realizes net income or loss, pays taxes and distributes profits to shareholders. The profit of a corporation is taxed to the corporation when earned, and then is taxed to the shareholders when distributed as dividends. This creates a double tax." 

    4.  The majority of plastic bottles are not recycled right now, but in the past a vast majority of glass bottles weren't recycled either, deposit or not. "America: We can't be bothered right now." Glass is heavier but it's only going to the local bottling plant, not cross country. No one said it was a perfect solution or it wouldn't have gone away in the first place. Everything we do in life is a balancing act.

    5.  Precious metals are certainly worth recycling from a business standpoint, not to mention environmental impact. Many corporations--and people--don't make much of an effort to recycle anything except when statutorily required, so Apple making most, if not all of its products environmentally friendly in a life cycle is a step in the right direction, even if not perfect. 
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  • Reply 23 of 23
    proline said:
    AppleZulu said:
    So why again should anyone be irritated about a five minute sketch about Apple actually taking responsibility for what they put out into the world?
    Because it’s just corporate greenwashing and Apple couldn’t care less. Most environmental problems today come from the Chinese regime, which is enabled by Apple and to which Apple panders every day. Be it removing the Taiwan flag to nerfing Airdrop so dissidents can’t use it, Apple has a thing for totalitarianism. 
    The skit was literally making the point that they’re not “greenwashing,” but ok, you do you. 
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